Global Trance Domination Project

On 2006-09-28 00:41, AuraQuake wrote:
Anyhow with your statments you dont seam logical or clear or good intetion you just want to creat caos and confusion that why most off people don't even bother to answer you...

We are all diferent thats the beauty of Nature..just surrender to it.

Love

Catia

On 2006-09-28 03:44, M.o.E. wrote:
"Maybe they're fortunate enough to live in San Francisco and they can go see Simon Posford and X-Dream anytime they want. I heard it was because a bunch of the darkpsy people BOYCOTTED Symbiosis this year because not enough of them were booked. "

geeze...that is quite a rumor, that is completely false! . what did any of us ever to to you that would give such an negative impression? we all go to many parties we are not booked at! in fact most artists that went to the love parade were not booked there........

the people i know who did not go to symbosis did not go because

1. they could not afford it and/or
2. the love parade more suited their musical tastes

the love parade is on this weekend. as far as i know it scheduled to be there way before symbosis. it is not fair and totally ridiculous to accuse the people who organized the psy-trance float/ and room at the after-party of being dividing the community. they have been doing this for three years now. it is basically an annual tradition as far as i can tell.

never have i heard such snide reactions from people who attended a party against others that chose not to go. this is totally outrageous. i have a really hard time believing that is was such a magical healing experience for the community when so many of the attendents return upset and saying mean things to non-attendents for not attending. it is certainly not helping to encourage me to check out any GOA play events in the future......

On 2006-09-28 02:23, Psycosmo wrote:
Well Nick, I remember when I used to think about stuff like this, about 4-5 years ago when I was in college in Arizona (I think it may be something in the air out there, or perhaps the heat), but since I have decided that instead of creating a formal organization, I perfer to focus on spreading memes and fostering networks between social networks.
By spereading memes, I mean going on Isratrance and other forums, calling talk radio shows, writing letters to newspapers etc and talking about whatever I think the people who read/listen to where I am talking need to hear. I figure people might not listen to me now, but whatever I say will be someplace in the back of their memory and if they come across that idea again it is more likely to end up further to the front of their mind.
By creating social networks between social networks, that means trying to get to know a diverse group of people who have different wisdoms/skills/locations and get them in contact with eachother so that they will exchange information. Also, when one mediates such an exchange, they empower themsleves, because they are privy to witnessing the interaction of minds.
Most of all, I try to think of myself as an ambassador of the trance/psychedelia when I go about in the world. That doesnt really mean anything so pompus as it sounds, it just means recognizing that when people recognize me as a member of a particular group, the impressions they have of me will rub off onto my peers, so therefore we should all make a point of showing the rest of the world (the square world I mean) that we can co-exist with it, participate in a mostly square world, and that they have nothing to fear from us, we are not degenerates, and we are not going to ruin society.
For myself, I love to go to a psy/hippie discriminate-againster type and totally be totally helpful and ingratiating. Like dress all psychedelic and go into a really conservative neighborhood after a blizzard and help people push their cars out of the snow.
Conquering the hearts of world with little tiny acts of kindness/civility.

Instead of deafly teaching by preaching, we should teach by example and learn by debate. Then we will win and maybe even be wise enought not to squander it.

So Nick, I feel where you are coming from, but I predict that someday you will move to a more pragmatic, focused approach. If it is meant to happen, it needs to happen by mass individual action, not through central planning.

PS the trancers hall of fame is an awesome idea. It would be really funny to set up like it was the Baseball Hall of Fame or something.

On 2006-09-28 03:12, Mistress of Evil wrote:
yeah just to add to what catia already mentioned, Love fest was on the same wknd it was on last year, also it was a Tantra afterparty that Moe had nothing to do with besides dancing, helping out with deco a bit and me posting the event info here, and third, we did not boycott symbiosis - i would have gone had it not been on the same weekend, it was very hard not to be dancing with ALL my friends, but when it comes down to it i chose to stay and dance to Penta and Jahbo, 2 of my favortie artists, while symbiosis ws just not my musical cup of tea so to speak.
it seems like you have good intentions in mind, but by making all these assumed statements you are kinda creating drama that doesn't need to be created. stick to what you know
peace
megan

On 2006-09-28 03:44, M.o.E. wrote:
"Maybe they're fortunate enough to live in San Francisco and they can go see Simon Posford and X-Dream anytime they want. I heard it was because a bunch of the darkpsy people BOYCOTTED Symbiosis this year because not enough of them were booked. "

geeze...that is quite a rumor, that is completely false! . what did any of us ever to to you that would give such an negative impression? we all go to many parties we are not booked at! in fact most artists that went to the love parade were not booked there........

the people i know who did not go to symbosis did not go because

1. they could not afford it and/or
2. the love parade more suited their musical tastes

the love parade is on this weekend. as far as i know it scheduled to be there way before symbosis. it is not fair and totally ridiculous to accuse the people who organized the psy-trance float/ and room at the after-party of being dividing the community. they have been doing this for three years now. it is basically an annual tradition as far as i can tell.

never have i heard such snide reactions from people who attended a party against others that chose not to go. this is totally outrageous. i have a really hard time believing that is was such a magical healing experience for the community when so many of the attendents return upset and saying mean things to non-attendents for not attending. it is certainly not helping to encourage me to check out any GOA play events in the future......

On 2006-09-28 04:36, karmavsDogma wrote:
I don't think anyone boycotted this show, but I do know the promoters were expecting a lot more support from the trance community. I doubt they made back even half of what they put into it. Nick, myself, and many others I know want to see a scene where when you put on a badass show, thousands if not tens of thousands come out to witness it. Disappointment ran high due to the small crowd, but the party itself was not disappointing at all. It just would have been nice if the crowd had been double, the promoters could have made a little more of their cash back, and when next year's Symbiosis rolls around they don't start looking to cut expenses (especially on things like facility maintenance). Did they need or have to bring this lineup to us? No, but they did, and did it well. I think those of us who are involved in promoting and managing events looked at the lineup, looked at the facilities, looked at all these promoters did to deliver a truly legendary event and were left wondering where all the people were.

On 2006-09-28 05:43, Catalyx wrote:

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On 2006-09-28 04:36, karmavsDogma wrote: I don't think anyone boycotted this show, but I do know the promoters were expecting a lot more support from the trance community. I doubt they made back even half of what they put into it. Nick, myself, and many others I know want to see a scene where when you put on a badass show, thousands if not tens of thousands come out to witness it. Disappointment ran high due to the small crowd, but the party itself was not disappointing at all. It just would have been nice if the crowd had been double, the promoters could have made a little more of their cash back, and when next year's Symbiosis rolls around they don't start looking to cut expenses (especially on things like facility maintenance). Did they need or have to bring this lineup to us? No, but they did, and did it well. I think those of us who are involved in promoting and managing events looked at the lineup, looked at the facilities, looked at all these promoters did to deliver a truly legendary event and were left wondering where all the people were.

i hope this disappointment is not what fueled nick's statement about love parade because even without it there wouldn't have been enough people at symbiosis to pay for so many expensive artists....Simon Posford's fee alone is more than most party budgets which had me wondering how the organizers were expecting to make money even with $80-$120 tickets....the california scene might seem big coming from arizona but as someone who's lost many thousands on events i know it's still too small for bringing lots of top acts....a pure psy party here with 800-1000 people is nearly a miracle so i'd suggest scaling back your expectations and don't blame the trance community for lack of support...

It will happen, eventually, once I break past all the tension and misunderstanding.