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give me ure honest opinion why u think psy trance has been destroyed ,all reasons,

Moonsun
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 02:16
If u are old in the sceene or new , tell us why u think trance is going from now to the worst. Do u think the djs in other countries trust as, Do the people trust to go to a party, How do you think the sceene will be in a few years, how do u feel about clubs parties or out door parties, Do u think that the reason of d...gs is the major reason ,of not realising the concept of the party. do u think the remeurs about orginizers from people gives a war between them, that has a bad image on the sceene, now how can we all change things?
xrust
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 03:11
hey moonsun,wht r u talking about man?blackmails,threats,kidnappings,trance mafia....i think that psy trance is going through her best period

seriously now,imho,psy trance(the movement)is destroyed because of the greed of many people who saw the trancers like money!

F*CK THE TRANCE MAFIA DAT




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andrejcid
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 03:37
the older u get, the more likely that u feel a predominant downfall in the trance scene/music. I bet tho all the younger ones that have recently found out bout trance r having fun like they never had before..and its all being great for them.

the real reson imo is that the scene is getting bigger, meaning the number of listeners, all with different interests and contributions, is constantly rising. Now, that doesnt mean bad necessarily, but it does mean an increased likelihood off competitivness between ppl due to increassing number of differing ideologies, trends etc.
Furthermore, trance music as a genre is not quite new anymore, its been out there for a while, and the time is doing its own natural thing, i.e. draining the magic away from it slowly...

things about promoters, drugs, money or other issues commonly attributed as one of the main contributors to the depreciation of the scene are just details within the bigger picture, and cannot be avoided.
...its just something that happens in nearly every underground music scene after its been existing for a while..and ofcourse fought to be understood & respected by the wider public and authorities


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other_reality
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 12:15
Yeah, a big welcome back to my all-time fave topic...
Actually, Moonsun, I think that you've just grown up. We have grown up. I mean, lets just face it, it kinda always was like that. The thing is that the "good old days" are never coming back. The next thing is that, and lets again be honest, 90% of the music is crap.

I mean shit man, meaningless copy-paste all over the VA's and big taratata's from all the labels, just until the moment you press play...and,...oh well, same shit again.

And then there are mp3's...That's a big issue as well man, coz I think that this whole -gimme all- attitude has destroyed the concept of music discovery.

Let us not forget that the -gimme all- attitude is also a moto for the club owners and (some) party organisers. In some cases, dj's too. A whole circuitry of money interchange, between more and more -in'betweeners-...Can't have magic and ideology when money is in big time, can you?

Last, but by no means least, is -yeah, you've guessed it- the f*cking drugs. Too many of them, too much of them, and massively given away to all the wrong people, in the worst possible way. In the past, i've read some posts of yours referring to shamanism. Dude, believe me, there's nothing "shamanic" with LSD abuse from 18 year olds in shitholes echoeing with ultra-bpm'ed digital garbage. (25 Euro plus beer).

That's my point of view, and I think that these are the main reasons behind the fall of psychedelic trance. The fall of its pride, and legacy atleast. This will keep on, until the day that something great happens again...Until that day then...


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14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 12:39
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On 2005-11-08 12:15, other_reality wrote:
Last, but by no means least, is -yeah, you've guessed it- the fucking drugs. Too many of them, too much of them, and massively given away to all the wrong people, in the worst possible way. In the past, i've read some posts of yours referring to shamanism. Dude, believe me, there's nothing "shamanic" with LSD abuse from 18 year olds in shitholes echoeing with ultra-bpm'ed digital garbage. (25 Euro plus beer).


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CLAW
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 12:49
I think all is just fine...
I dont understand why personal views can be seen as facts...

Everybody is free to choose whatever he/she likes...
If something bothers you then stop doing it.
Others might not have the same opinion like you...

So i guess is all up to each one of us personal opinion...

Either you like it or not...


Is like the movies... U cant force someone not to go and see a film just because you didnt like it and you belive that all films turn out to be bad and ungly...

There are a lot of things to focus in our lifes.... Stop concetrating on other pplss acts and moves... Try to make your selves better...

You are asking for changes... Be the change, not just ask for it!

          
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other_reality
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 13:32
No argues about that, but one can make the difference if the whole is behaving like one. It is not right to sit back and just wait, ofcourse I agree with you CHP. It is not right though to ignore what's going on either.

So it is almost impossible for people who have loved and grown up through this thing to just watch it fall in decay.

There is no "somebody" who bothers "someone else". It is a whole system of "somebodies". And ofcourse I am concentrating on them, since they cause the problem.

You say all is just fine, and then again, like you said, it's just your personal view, isn't it ?

There still may be freedom of choice for me, and some others, but I'm sure you're aware that some people aren't free to decide on what they really want/like most. They eat the dinner as it is served, no questions asked.

Anyway, there are a million things I could argue about this thing, and ofcourse more other people like me, or like any psy-head, old or new. Forums are about argueing, mostly. Sharing, provoking, revealing. It is an act. So do it.           Bring yourselves into the light

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CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 18:47
u make the party friend.the situation is exactly as it was 10 years bfore.U c it differently nowadays because u grew up.
at 1 of our conversation u said that in the past ppl were going swimming and chillin out all together.after the MWNN/EU party most of the participants were at alepohori chillin and waiting for another to begin.so because u r not living it anymore don't blame the scene.it seems that u don't have the feeling anymore.
oh and drugs?i remember a lot of ppl holding their shoes in the air or playing with muppets or kickboxing with their shadow for hours back in 95.what were they?clean?
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old friend

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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 23:52
I dont believe psy trance has be destroyed.
Everything is fine.
psypunk
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Posted : Nov 9, 2005 00:12
Definately the things are not as it was in 96-98 period. But then again that was the start and everybody got into something new. Now there is no radio show( Life FM), no big promoters in Athens who bring names (Sunrise Zone), no fashion (Frond - Void) and of course no big clubs (Alsos - NRG - Battery). Also I think that the happy feeling, the union has been lost between party people.
dinotel

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Posted : Nov 9, 2005 00:43
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On 2005-11-09 00:12, psypunk wrote:
Definately the things are not as it was in 96-98 period. But then again that was the start and everybody got into something new. Now there is no radio show( Life FM), no big promoters in Athens who bring names (Sunrise Zone), no fashion (Frond - Void) and of course no big clubs (Alsos - NRG - Battery). Also I think that the happy feeling, the union has been lost between party people.


Well said.The happy feeling is replaced by the "look i take drugs" attitude.
The weird thing is that many of the people who listened to psytrance and followed the hype 10 years ago dont want to have anything to do with the scene nowdays.
Its not only because they grew up but a lot of different factors that made them go away.
other_reality
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Posted : Nov 9, 2005 03:19
Actually, All I am trying to say is that it could be better...

I never said things suck now as they are. They never will.

Dinotel is more close to what I'm saying

@Faithnomore : I'm not blaiming the people who want to party my friend. And ofcourse the thing is still going on, but on what scale compared with the past ? Do we have as many as events, like in the past ? Are they of the same scale ? (In every aspect of it).
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Bloodclot
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Posted : Nov 9, 2005 08:15
I dont believe psytrance has been destroyed. I can say its earned a bad reputation just as death metal has. Alot of it has to do with 15 and 16 yr old kids who don't understand BULL about trance and are in for it because of the drugs
Maybe that will change someday.
other_reality
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Posted : Nov 10, 2005 23:14
I dont think that it's true. There are young 15 or 16 year olds out there who actually understand trance ,Bloodclot. Don't think that they are only in for the drugs.

And reputation, as far as I know, was ALWAYz bad. It always had this label "on" it, u know ...drugs, carelesness and a bit "weirdness" u could say. Ofcourse, this was from people "outside" the genre.           Bring yourselves into the light

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Psy_mystic
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Posted : Nov 11, 2005 00:02
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..drugs, carelesness and a bit "weirdness"


doesnt sound bad!
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