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Future Music, Computer Music : no psytrance
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Seppa
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Posted : Dec 20, 2008 22:16:20
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Hi everyone, I'm a reader of these 2 magazine and "music tech" too, for many years now.
One thing I don't follow is why in the world those magazine do not talk about psychedlic trance.
I mean there has been countless video interviews, video tutorials and on paper too about pretty much any kind of electronic music but no psytrance.
We're not that underground right? Especially these days! When you have infected mushroom astrix ect.. ending in the top 100 dj. This style is less and less underground but still largely unoticed by these nagazines.
I think this style is one of the most advanced and rich if you put aside the tones of crap that is release everyday, but that's not any worse than any other style.
So why... I bet if future music was israely we would have had more content on psytrance than any other style... What a shame!
I dont't know how many people here read future music or/and computer music but this has gone long enough.
I propose we make ourself heard. I'm well aware that our style is not the most diffused but it is diffused enough to be considered by those magazines.
This is the mother of all website regarding psytrance so this is where this should be asked.
How many of you read and buy computers music and or future music?
please reply on this thread and lets think of some way we can all togheter make these people feature some of our favourite artists,
Thank you all in advance.
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soulfood
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Posted : Dec 20, 2008 22:31
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I.D.M, House, Drum and Bass
That's all you'll come across in those mags. Unless someone whose particularly into psy trance works as a regular on the magazine then I can't see them touching on it as they probably think it is covered by house.
That said though it's all related anyway. A tip for one is a tip for all, plus you've always got the internet so I don't think there's a shortage about info on trance that's for sure.
I'm sure if you sent a demo and some questions into a magazine they may print your letter and answer said questions.
Maybe if everyone does that they'll realize trance may sell a few copies and print something on it.
It would take a load of people though and because online trance info is so abundant people probably won't bother. |
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Kane
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Posted : Dec 20, 2008 23:08
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I think people that are fans of new stuff that the top 100 artists you mentioned have done don't even know what psytrance is..a lot of people that aren't involved in psy that I know like new Infected tracks but consider it techno because they aren't aware that there's a difference. The mainstream audience, especially in the US, just can't see any type of electronica as a serious way to make music..most people here consider it cheesy or childish at best. It's all techno to them, and it's all played at meth ridden raves.
So I wouldn't say that have "psy" artists in the top 100 makes the genre any less underground.
I do buy individual copies of magazines like these on occasion. Some of the tutorials/tips they include can be helpful for psytrance production, but they're usually really basic and apply to the more mainstream electronic genres. I'm usually more interested in the synth/fx news and reviews.
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Zoopy
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Posted : Dec 20, 2008 23:12
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makus
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did ANY magazine write anything about psy? we are that undeground actually. infected mushroom and astrix are no psytrance.
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vegetal
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Seppa
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Infected Mushroom is not psychedelic trance ?
I do take into account that not all they do today can be considered psytrance but if infected cannot be considered a psytrance act then i don't know what is?
I mean no offence and all but I'm not sure if those affirming the opposite here have contributed to the scene like they did.
I'm suprised of the replies so far.
This thread is not about what is underground or not. this is about fm and cm readers who would be interested in having their music featured in those magazines.
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hugaw
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Kane
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Posted : Dec 21, 2008 05:17
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We're not offtopic when being underground has so much to do with it. It's completely unreasonable to ask a magazine sold in any major bookstore (at least in the US) to write articles for a relatively tiny group of people. That's why we have this forum, mushroom mag, label mailing lists, etc.
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Trip-
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Posted : Dec 21, 2008 09:31
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Seppa,
what for example would you like this magazine to write about?
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Elad
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interview with skazi about how to remix song by hipass it and add kick and bass 
interview with hommega how to realese the same track 1000 times with diffrent names 
interview with eskimo about how to make live show 
i never felt this magaiznes are not for me since its not about psytrance.. they are soooo good anywayz.
ontopic - yes psytrance is that underground... infected and skazi got that famous only when stop making real psytrance and mix rock into that , infected gig sounds like inkin park today hehe.. and for example in their last gig in australia (30000 ppl) they were the warm up band for carl cox.. so it makes sense that carl cox get the interview...
i dont think the day infected is gonna be on this magazines is far anyhow , they growing commercialy in amazing pace more then ever www.sattelbattle.com
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Seppa
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Posted : Dec 21, 2008 11:25
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what for example would you like this magazine to write about?
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All I wanned was to see those magazines have interviews and tutorials on psytrance just like they do with dub steps or other undergrounds genres..
I mean they have those videos with artists in the studio which often very interesting. I'd love to see some established psytrance artist on those video. not only we'd learn something but we get to see them in the studio.. nobody here is curious?
unfortunatly my feeling doesnt seem to be shared by those in this forum.
Fair enough.
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interview with hommega how to release the same track 1000 times with diffrent names
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Last time I checked the scene was slighltly wider than this. What about twisted record , dragon fly, nano records ect...
And come on people this music has to be more than about kick and bass and throwing a bunch of cacophonic noises on top and call it psytrance. So many of you would actually learn from acts from big labels.
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We're not offtopic when being underground has so much to do with it. It's completely unreasonable to ask a magazine sold in any major bookstore (at least in the US) to write articles for a relatively tiny group of people. That's why we have this forum, mushroom mag, label mailing lists, etc. |
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unreasonable ? lol . if you say so
First off future music in an english based magazine, you just happen to have a us version, which does not even feature the same stuff as the british version.
second the psytrance scene is a lot bigger in europe than it is in the states. Just look at the amount of parties of psytrance availaible here and you'll understand.
don't tell me dubstep is more available than psytrance when its not, there has already many tutorials on the subject... quite interesting by the way.
I think the reason is quite simple actually, just by looking at the answers. the majority of the people who answered so far have are not interested in making this happen. everyone here seems to know it all. going after established artist. Whether or not you like them there are certainly thing we can learn from them. But some of you have such use ego its just unbelievable.
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subconsciousmind
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I think psytrance is pretty underground, but not that underground, that it doesn't deserve any artist featured in one of these magazines, and not that underground that it isn't mentioned EVER in one of these magazines in a DECADE which I'm reading them.
I'm more talking of the german mag "keys" I also read CM for a while though.
Furthermore from a technical point of view, when it comes to sounddesign in psytrance there is some of the most advanced technique in all electronic music to be found.
Look at Infected (the more typical psytrance stuff if you wish) sounddesign wise, (also production wise if you wish) they are showing a level that easily competes with every other electronic style outthere.
Still, all the magazin pretty much ignore psytrance. There are interviews with electronic acts about how they did this and that album, there is big talk how experimental the sounddesign was and how bla bla... I get interested, I go and listen to the music mentioned and all I hear are some bitcrushers and stutters, which I heard in psytrance ages ago.
There is pretty advanced stuff like aphex twins, or far too loud but there is also a lot of totally overrated stuff (sounddesign wise).
I think nobody outside psytrance actually takes psytrance serious. Its seen as a scene primarily used for using drugs and a show off for freaky wanna be hippies with bells on their feet, an "ohm" sign on every corner of their clothes and an ever wann be "I'm one with the world" attitude while throwing trash on the floor and being totally stoned.
Well if they just knew that this isn't the case in reality... hmm...
personally I think that psytrance scene should be a "psychedelic" scene which should have nothing to do with "techno" or "electronic music" seriously. I think the important thing is the "PSY" in "Psytrance". I think we should become a true psychedelic scene with all sorts of psychedelic music, not only electronic psychedelic music...
So... within electronic music they wont give us our place.. fuck them...
Most of my music for you to download at:
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Seppa
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Posted : Dec 21, 2008 11:31
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You see although I agree with most of what you say subsconscious, I think they don't feature us because nobody bothers asking for it.
Just look at the reply I got. How many readers we got in here? I'm sure enough so that if all us readers sent a letter or a signed petition to cm and fm they'd see there is demand. Subconscious you seem to feel strong about it. So let's do something to change that.
Because I don't think there is that much demand for dubstep psytrance cannot handle.
If I was a cm editor and red this thread. " that would confirm my original though no one is interested" come on I'm sure a lot of people would rush to buy a copy it an artist was featured.
So anyone out there interested in making this happen please leave a message.
For those who are not interested in it please stop hijacking this thread, many thanks |
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PoM
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Posted : Dec 21, 2008 12:41
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maybe they don t talk much about psytrance cause they won t get more sell with it compared to euro dance, trance . |
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