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CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : Nov 2, 2005 00:15
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lately I c that ppl don't respect the crews that throw free parties.
ppl under the E caused damages to the deco at the last PARANORMAL RESEARCH event
armed thieves hit parties in Salonica.
the concept of the free parties are based on respect.respect to the ppl,respect to the crews who throw parties with their own money and sweat,respect to one another.
If u ppl don't respect the concept then u r not worthy of such an effort.
there is nothing else I'd like to add here.
it's your turn to say your opinion.
PS.keep up the good work PLASMATICA CAMOFLASH AMBIENTRANCEDELICA NATURAL HIGH
someday they might understand what we were doing back in the day...
for PARANORMAL RESEARCH,
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d1m1tr1
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Posted : Nov 2, 2005 01:52
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man at our party 'loonar park' at pol/poli in the parking, if u came, some guys (about 10 or 12) opened the head of ONE single guy.
after that i was wondering also again the effort of organizing such a big party, coz it was already difficult. and i felt so bad.
thats also a question of respect here
i hate this kind of behavior especially in an event i'm sweating to organize.
u're right in many ways
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DigitalN
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Posted : Nov 2, 2005 02:06
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yooo Dark elf hehehe 
can u call me? 
check ur pm 
till then ...
lets 
more boom
more unity
Greets from Athens..
keep in touch 
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Posted : Nov 2, 2005 11:51
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full respect to all crews that through free parties...they keep the underground spirit alive...and still stay focused on the true meaning of parties i.e. to have fun, to keep trance alive and not making money... bravo to all and keep it pure
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griniaris
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Posted : Nov 2, 2005 11:58
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Pure is my a..s! Thats bul...t!Everything has a purpose! i am sick of hearing pure,trance alive,plur,fun,spirit,respect and shit shit shit! 
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sahedelic
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Posted : Nov 2, 2005 12:00
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On 2005-11-02 11:58, griniaris wrote:
Pure is my a..s! Thats bul...t!Everything has a purpose! i am sick of hearing pure,trance alive,plur,fun,spirit,respect and shit shit shit!
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Polyester Corespun
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Posted : Nov 2, 2005 13:15
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Seems that there's an obsession with free parties lately...and I wonder why. Is it probably because ppl don't want to give their money to certain promoters and they think that ticket prices are high? Or is it because a new fresh air of freedom and idealism has stricken us very suddenly and we don't know what to do with it?
Well the thing is that you can't have it all!
A free party (with no entrance fee) at a club or cafe is not so free because you end up with high prices for the drinks. This is quite understandable though, because I guess there are no promoters/artists/djs/bar owners with charity intentions. So if we're talking about a real indoor party with guests,deco,sound,flyers,posters etc there's no such thing as free party.
On the other hand there's the university solution.
Free parties at unis are free only if there's no entrance fee and the drinks are cheap (I mean cheap). But it seems that no free party or half free party has yet happened with no problems. You cannot prevent anyone from entering the area because this is public property and you have no legal right to refuse the entrance to those u regard as unwanted (junkies/drunks/thieves/assholes that cause problems). You also may have some serious situations with cops like it happened in Athens.
So what this is all about free parties?
And exactly why has it come to mean that ppl don't show respect to the crews that put their effort and money and sweat on it?
Every thread I've read about free events in here is full of thumbs up and bravos and respects so I think that the ppls support is granted, right? Did you ever think that there might be something wrong with the whole idea anyway, with the way thinks are managed by the crews making those free's ? When things go wrong you cannot blame just one side and the biggest responsibility lies on the promoters part. You cannot keep blaming the ppl for everything.
I'd love to see Greece being the pioneer in this : free promoters, free labels, free teams, free parties, free drinks, free drugs, free minds, free music, free lives, free sets. Let's make it an international movement and spread it everywhere why not? How come didn't the foreigners think about it first? |
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Cy High
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Posted : Nov 2, 2005 14:15
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Well, a free party is a party where you don't pay for an entrance ticket, therefore you listen to the artists, enjoy the deco and the sound system all for free. Is your choice if you will spend any money on drinks or drugs or whatever.
So a free party is a free party. And is a good thing for the scene. Some people might not have any money apart from their smoke or drink money, well those people would be glad to go to a party like this. People who strongly believe that there's nothing done without the aim of profit, should re-consider their opinion. Unless they are this way and they cannot accept that other people arent.
People should respect the effort of every organizer wether he/she's doing it for free or for the money.
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acidonacid
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Posted : Nov 2, 2005 15:34
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In free partys attent many people not for the music just
for spent the night.
They don't care if play trance or Britney Spears. For them is the same.
Just have a nice night without spending much money.
I respect the crews making this partys but the true is ppl there no related with trance.
If I have to choose the same date a free party in a univesity for example or in a club with entrance and a nice artist I will go to the secont one.
This is only my humble opinion and I want the usual free partys crew continue the nice work they do.
We need it also and this is the true meaning of undergroud spirit but I am Bored all this stupid stoned ascholes looking for only for fights or still something.
They kill my vibe and my trip in to the music.
The only real good no entrance partys is the prive partys with good friends but at the end of the day some times cost more than a ticket in a club. (generators lights food drink etc.)
I don't know. I am little bit comfused here.
We need solutions. Have you something in your mind?
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XrTC
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Posted : Nov 2, 2005 15:43
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i agree with Cy High...
you become part of a materialistic world only when you start believing in it.
griniaris, it seems that reality has striken hard on you. i am sure you have your reasons and experiences for saying smth like that, but keep in mind a wise quote (i don't remember who said it atm): Be the change you want to see!
life can be hard to all of us. of course some things we have to accept, but for others we have to make our own personal revolution. and in fact it's more difficult to oppose to "our" beliefs (or the things that were taught to us), but at the end of the day it's what counts.
those who simply accept things and don't do anything to change some situations are just lazy IMHO...
as for the free parties, i support the idea. and i don't blame organisers for whatever bad things happen there. cos FREE means that everyone and everything is accepted, including good/bad, clever/stupid persons (and everyone else in-between). so, unexpected things can happen unfortunately. but that's not a reason to be disheartened and give up trying (that goes to the free-party promoters).
my 2 cents.....
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acidonacid
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Posted : Nov 2, 2005 15:55
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On 2005-11-02 15:43, XrTC wrote:
keep in mind a wise quote (i don't remember who said it atm): Be the change you want to see!
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be the change you want see in the world.
M.K. Gandhi
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Posted : Nov 2, 2005 16:59
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bravo to teams that mk free parties, gr8 gatherings
boom shaka
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CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : Nov 2, 2005 23:34
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On 2005-11-02 14:15, Cy High wrote:
Well, a free party is a party where you don't pay for an entrance ticket, therefore you listen to the artists, enjoy the deco and the sound system all for free. Is your choice if you will spend any money on drinks or drugs or whatever.
So a free party is a free party. And is a good thing for the scene. Some people might not have any money apart from their smoke or drink money, well those people would be glad to go to a party like this. People who strongly believe that there's nothing done without the aim of profit, should re-consider their opinion. Unless they are this way and they cannot accept that other people arent.
People should respect the effort of every organizer wether he/she's doing it for free or for the money.
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exactly.wise words friend
same stands for u also XrTC
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nikos s
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Posted : Nov 3, 2005 15:29
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I dont believe some guys attitude, u want everything dont you ???? free entrance, "killer" acts, only "good people" in the crowd... thn go pay the 30 euros and get to a club where the only reason that people dont beat each other up is that there is security inside... myself i'm sick of this commercial shit going on, i refuse to pay these crazy amounts of money no matter who plays, i dont care if it's parasence, goa gil, or jesus christ, 30 e is a joke
Griniari, do your own parties for god's sake, people like iraklis nats and the keno diktio guys have been doing parties for ages and believe me they make no profits from all this , they just do it because of their love for the music/art, u can very easily understand this
if u had ever been in the poetry nights or the video screenings, this is totally underground events and the guys lose money for al this just because they believe in the cause..
Polyester the foreigners have thought about that and actually do this for ages, uk has a huge squat party scene going from the early 80s, germany also.. Also why is it the promoters fault when some guy beats up another one or when somebody breaks or steals something ??? this is smthng caused by some people's stupidity, what u expect a promoter to be a cop ??? This is exactly what makes the free parties different, u can smoke, drink, take drugs if u wish, nobody is going to do anything to you u dont have a f""ing
cop/asfalitis/security bozo telling u what to do... This is real life not kindergarden, u take care of your stuff , dont leave them hanging around cause you're too spaced out to keep an eye on them (this is not meant as a remark for you of course), take care of your friends and yourself...
I'm happy i can walk 20 minutes from my place and get to zografou for a free night with my 5e for drinks and most of my friends around me, i dont give a f""k 'bout the braindead burnouts , they mind their business and i mine, the crowds in the clubs are not so much better anyway...
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griniaris
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Posted : Nov 3, 2005 15:54
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You are a little bit confused nikos s. pfffffffff
I like free parties, I go to free parties, I don't pay 30 euros either but what I said is that I don't beleive in plur and shit like that cause everything has a purpose! Got it? I don't know about keno diktio and Hraklis and all these anarchy ppl and since you are refering to that subject I tell you something. I am from Thessaloniki and the last two experiences I had was: The party on 29/10/2005 at the univ. of Thessaloniki 30 guys anarxikoi came and destroy the party and stole the equipment. The other was last winter in Athens at "An" club (Hraklis was making the party and what I saw was 14euro I think entrance, I don't see anything free) and a matso guys tried to hit us. And from the posts I see here the last party you had down there at the univ. with electric universe keno diktio came in the univ. and they brought all the cops with them. So leave the bul..t about anarchy and keno diktio cause here we are trancades having common the music and not the violence and the stealing!
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