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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jul 2, 2010 18:52
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Hup Holland!
Imo Brazil got luck it was only 2-1.But it was not their world cup,they are still one of the bests.
I have so much good friends & sympahty for Holland that's why I'm so happy.
Oranje rocked!
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Posted : Jul 2, 2010 18:56
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Well diserved.
Holland played a brilliant 2nd half. They did to Brazil, what we did to them on the 1st half.
Despite the facct they got lucky in the 1st goal, they played one hell of a match.
Nice comeback.
Supporting La Furia Roja from now one. 
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Posted : Jul 2, 2010 18:58
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Posted : Jul 2, 2010 19:15
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Holland vs Spain in the finals I bet
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Posted : Jul 2, 2010 20:28
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Had the referee been a European there would have been less fouls against the Brazilians , Robben clearly used that to his advantage - falling and acting on every little contact. the Robinho goal was outstanding, best pass in the tournament so far and what a great finish! i was hoping it goes into penalties but then Brazil were reduced to ten men. Great game. enjoyed it. 
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Posted : Jul 2, 2010 20:31
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yes I enjoyed this game too.It was exciting.And Brazil showed also their samba football magic.I'm with John Doe - the first half was golden for Brazil the second was Holland in great style.
I bet next wc Brazil will come as a furia hehe.
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Posted : Jul 2, 2010 23:38
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A lot of people made millions today with the win of Holland against Brazil,since yesterday night i have been receiving phone calls about this game from all around the world.
All i can say is that the win of Holland against Brazil did pay 4.2 to 1 on legal websites and 4.5 to 1 on illegal bookies.Even on the greek legal betting company which has the lowest odds on the planet the game was 4 to 1.
These odds are a pure joke for a team like Holland that was treated (betting wise speaking) like they were Denmark or Greece or North Korea or something like that.
I know people in Cyprus and New York that made HUGE bets on this game and made a fortune by playing on various bookies Holland to win.By the way a huge bet in football is something around 10-20 thousand euros since bookies dont accept bigger bets.
These were the easiest 9000 euros i have ever made from football betting but i am sad to see that even games on this high level are being set up.
Modern sports have turned into a disgrace unfortunately and players like Felipe Melo are better actors than sportsmen. 2 years in Italy did train him very well into becoming the next Amlet......
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Posted : Jul 2, 2010 23:51
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I doubt this kind of buisness is reaching up to the worldcup.But for the worldcup the win of a national team would ever be a bigger win.And the referee did a great job.The foul was clear ,a blind man would recognize it.
Normal league it is happening I agree.Although in the past more than now or in the future.
Congrats on your win.
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Posted : Jul 2, 2010 23:52
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about the vuvuzelas.
It has been discussed in our newspapers. the people who blow them know it is annoying but the attitude is one of being spiteful.
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Posted : Jul 3, 2010 00:20
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Posted : Jul 3, 2010 01:15
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On 2010-07-02 23:51, TimeTraveller wrote:
I doubt this kind of buisness is reaching up to the worldcup.
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This kind of business was always part of the world cup.
Argentina won Peru 6-0 in 1978 when Peru had a great team, on the same world cup Cruyff didnt follow the Dutch team because some people had arranged a kidnapp of him and his familly in his house in Spain and held him a hostage with a rifle in his head. Small detail Argentina had a military junta at this time...
In 1982 Germany won Austria 1-0 in a joke game,just search on youtube about this game and you will understand what i mean. Both teams qualified and Algeria was knocked out in probably the most funny game of all times with people really walking and exchanging passes in the middle of the field.
In 1998 Ronaldo was obliged by Nike to play in the final game although he was very sick and vomitted before the game, sponsors dont care about the players you see and they are very influential in the game.
In 2002 Korea reached the semi finals after two joke games against Italy and Spain, the referees did absolutely EVERYTHING in their hand to help the hosts of the tournament from disqualifying opposition goals to giving red cards to Italy and protecting the Korean players hard game. Some people made huge money in the Asian market.
World Cup is not different than the Italian, French or German league that all have been set up in the past with undoubted proofs and teams like Juventus,Marseille and more being relegated.
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Posted : Jul 3, 2010 02:26
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maybe .I believe there goes much in this world wrong.But looking on this games it is like impossible.I mean this world cup ,espescialy the game Holland - Brazil..I mean you could see both teams giving all possible,not only the emotions seemed real to me etc.
And in this particular game,the referee was making only correct decisions.
Long before the red card ,he got respects  from our commentators analysers as one of the bests so far.
I know quite well that such buisness exists in soccer ,I have a few friends who are for years into it.I know it goes round the world etc..
Last years ,the most was reveiled..of course not all.
Personally I don't believe anyone would risk it or count on more money (team players,team coaches,referees) since it got all more professional.
I've seen enough of games that was manipulated ,if by referees or single players - what could it be then in the match Brazil - Holland? Do you really think some of the players 'crying faces' or that kind of luck emotion when a goes was happened ,that this are such perfect actors?.. maybe but than they still played on both sides as they would give all posible imo.
Holland had a favourite reputation before the World Cup,I was like I cannot believe what I see,since I was not giving them much chances ,but they played both like to the limits imo.
I think the coach of Brazil was angry as fuck.
How could it be than all somehow manipulated? All what I've seen was like they all were playing to the max.In their range of skills and physics.
The german league was fucked up with manipulation like a conspiracy of the highest level.Of course down to 3.rd it was profitable but it was all reveiled up to referees,and background figures,characters on the other side of the planet /asia.
There was a scandal like a year or longer even through all possible media,later much was reveiled in Italy and others followed.
I'm not that naive to believe that it does not exist anymore,but I personaly cannot believe that it is happening in this world cup.
Or Maradona still has great underworld contacts lol ..but I dont believe it personaly.Germany is hungry as fuck,they will play honest and I think other teams too.
There must be an incredible chance random of luck to manipulate a penalty shot 11meters so that it wont get reveilled.
But well in the end it is only my "inner feelings" I'm not a clairvoyant.A bit drunk tbh,so my novel got a bit longer now .Cheers ..damn Ghana was soo close
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Posted : Jul 3, 2010 03:55
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Dear Time Traveller in order to setup a match you dont need to buy the whole team.
Just one or two players are enough.
By the way the win of Holland on the second half was paying up to 50 to 1 on some websites lol.
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Posted : Jul 3, 2010 05:20
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Detox I know,excuse me,I was not clear in my statements.
Often just one referee is even enough to manipulate effectively.
I was trying to give my personal observations from all,from referee to trainer.
If there was one scene like a card where we seriously could debate if this was against the rules or not,or sth like this but I just think that Brazil had great chances in the second half too and it seemed pretty legal .It is hard to describe it for me.
Well nothing is impossible.
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Posted : Jul 3, 2010 07:25
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On 2010-07-03 03:55, DETOX wrote:
Dear Time Traveller in order to setup a match you dont need to buy the whole team.
Just one or two players are enough.
By the way the win of Holland on the second half was paying up to 50 to 1 on some websites lol.
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As you know bet sites and casinos make bet pools, so the casino has nothing to loose, all is calculated with models. It make no sense at all.
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