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ganjagil
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Posted : Aug 5, 2006 11:43
I also agree that true psy music has to emerge into something new and that the other trance will be apart!

How i do not know
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parapsyched
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Posted : Aug 6, 2006 04:35
u mught be right but what i menat to say was that a whole new genre will emerge . like disco emerged in the 70`s like techno emerged in the 80`s like drum `n` bass , breakbeat etc. emerged in the 90`s.
i think another genre will emerge and will sweep away those who r not truely trancers...
that`s what i meant to say hope i cleared this up.
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Dushan
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Posted : Aug 6, 2006 16:52
Quote:

On 2006-08-04 20:02, full_on wrote:
Sure, I agree that D-Nox and Beckers are really professional and produce some exceptional stuff, the problem is that they associated their image here in Brazil with HUGE commercial parties, packed with all sort of full on crap. But, hey, I can't blame them, they have to eat and feed their family, so this way they earn a lot of money.

So what is the problem??
The problem is that the psychedelic level of these parties are very low. 30.000 persons, we get around 1 piece of decoration for each 1000 persons... And not to mention all ather problems inerent to commercial parties.

So they associate their image to the commercial side of the scene, everyone know them, hundreds of thousand people here saw their Live and DJ sets, they attract people to the parties, D-Nox and Beckers are now a brand, just like Skazi, Astrix or Infected Mushroom.

They produce good music, they are really good, but if you ask me I'd say I would not book them because they will attract exactly the wrong kind of people to the party, and that's why I don't want to see them Live, because I don't want to stand an excessively commercial party with no psychedelic atmosphere just to listen to good music.
Respect!



Here is how things stand in Serbia ... if u book Dino Psaras for example, u will have party with maybe 2000 ppl, and from that 1700 will be heavily druged, and will not have so much idea what is going on arouund them, so the music that Dino are presenting will not having more than just 300 real lovers and true fans, that in the end will spread a good word aboout it ... If u book D Nox or Beckers u will have no more than 500 ppl on a party, but u will have 400 of them very intresting in that what those guys will present to them ... so in the end i see that the bigger reason to book someone is in fact that on Beckers or D Nox u will have more true music lovers than on Dino's party ( i took this artist just as example, not to offend someone ) ... An if u asked me, without my music taste, i rather choose to see less number of ppl but more musicly educated or intrested, than a bunch of druged one ...
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piXan
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Posted : Aug 6, 2006 19:46
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) ... An if u asked me, without my music taste, i rather choose to see less number of ppl but more musicly educated or intrested, than a bunch of druged one ...




i think u are generalazing too much with the drug thing, i dont know if u have a problem with psychedelics. but i sure do lsd and maybe some other psychedelics substances when i go to a party, but i am always aware of whos playing, if its really live or fake live, the skill of the djs and their taste and music selection. if im on a lsd trip doesnt make me stupid, maybe it does that to u , but dont apply a general rule just like that. the relation of psychedelic use and music ignorance u imply here is nothing but pure bullshit.           www.soundcloud.com/elektroakustica/sets/downtempo/
Dushan
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Posted : Aug 8, 2006 18:19
well , i'm not using drugs, and never was ... but i am in Belgrade club and electronic scene allready for a 8 years, as a dj for 6 ... so i am pretty liberal about drugs, and ppl that using it, just saying about things that i see on almost every big psy event. In begining of my intresting in electronic music situation on trance events was far better ...           myspace.com/audionova
Cutie


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Posted : Aug 11, 2006 14:58
Why are people here in the forum running acts down? Are they envying? I am happy for every guy who "made" it in this difficult business.... And I think that Beckers and D-Nox really deserve to have success and not getting maligned.
offthenutboom
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Posted : Aug 11, 2006 18:05
I am absolutely tired of this -ve bullshit to be honest. Ppl complain and complain... It is not this way, not that way. Ppl take drugs and will not be able to discern the music. This artists and that artists are this or that. I sob and moan mommy because the ppl that work their live off to make the music and the events happen, do not make it the way I want them to.

4 Gods Sake, stop the bitching and make the rituals the way you please. No one is stopping you. Of course it takes much less balls to blab about hard working ppl than to do something about it. This is the fake scene: the self pronounced God's gift to psy trance who sit back and put down the ppl who actually make this events happen.

So stop talking and do it your way, build an empire, conquer the world and propagate you vision and values... but, leave the ppl who are already doing all those things alone.
ganjagil
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Posted : Aug 11, 2006 20:50
You know offthenutboom it's true we should work instead of moan but one start is the internet and letting people know what is going on. People are here in a forum to discuss many positive and negative things and get the best out of opinions. That's all..

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offthenutboom
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Posted : Aug 11, 2006 21:00
Well it is positive or negative for each of us. My point it is not about the discussion of the "trance philosophy", but the constant slander of some, who just do what they love most. Also I think if you are going to shoot the shit about topic it would be interesting to see what each of us did to remedy it... instead we are getting just vomits of frustration from some directed to others.

I did my share of parties and build a very small community. I made about 30+ parties from 1 to 450 ppl. I networked DJs with organizers, I started a small label, I Djed, I bought supplies for artists to create deco.... Now I am still supporting trance... my vision, my philosophy... and I have becomed wiser than just vomit on other ppl's happiness.
ganjagil
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Posted : Aug 11, 2006 21:46
You are very right i understand what you mean even though its hard to not talk or express emotions on others good or bad. The thing is that what is created by ego effects us all like what is created by love! SO you o in a dancefloor expecting trance and trance never comes! This hurts man...

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full_on
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Aug 11, 2006 21:57
Except for starting a small label, I did and still do pretty much the same that you did and some more stuff, offthenutboom.

I think that our forum is a good place to share ideas and experience, I don't think we're "just vomit on other ppl's happiness", for example I found the posts by Dushan interesting, it kind shows that the POP phenomenon of D-Nox and Beckers I exposed here is restricted mainly to Brazil, which now is one of the POPiest countries when it comes to psytrance (and maybe everything else).

On the other hand, I really think the title of this topic "Fake Scene" is too agressive, we should be able to talk about these delicate issues in a more elaborated way, otherwise the topic looks like everyone is bashing famous artists and big parties, which is NOT the purpose of this topic.
Respect!
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timsensient
Sensient

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Posted : Aug 11, 2006 22:25
Quote:

On 2006-08-02 11:59, ganjagil wrote:
I Everytime i went to the dancefloor i was amazed by trance people dancing to this fullon music were the beat is trance and the melodies are stupid. It looked all so fake, which made me think that maybe all that once was is now lost...




i had the same thing at Boom. Everymorning until 1 pm my ears were assaulted with the most simplistic, childish, bubblegum trance with nursery rhyme melodies and stupid predictable breaks, (always lead into by an "up siren" sound)...to my ears it really sounded like nothing more than eurotrance but without the vocals. How fucking depressing...
full_on
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Posted : Aug 12, 2006 01:34
timsensient, I think that in the way you wrote it seems that all DJs and Artists that played at Boom from sunrise till 1:00pm have ZERO musical skills and/or that all melodic/morning full on is "simplistic, childish, bubblegum trance with nursery rhyme melodies and stupid predictable breaks".

I don't think this is true, I bet some good music was also played at this time, it is unfair to put all the morning music and artists in the same shit bag.

For example, if someone come here and post: "During festival X all that the DJs played was the most simplistic progressive trance, which in fact has no progression at all, it sounded like they were stuck the whole Festival into the same repetitive track. How depressing..."

This has nothing of positive, just bashing whole genres will not even get people's attention.
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Pavel
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Posted : Aug 12, 2006 02:02
I wasn't at Boom2006 but Boom2004 did sound just like Tim described.
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ganjagil
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Aug 12, 2006 10:33
Literally it's so annoying man, we pay to go there a lot of money and then we find this as we say not so good music! Crazy! And even when i try to enjoy myself and maybe dance it's impossible to dance to this kind of music for us...I hope some artists start making trance soon, at least that would give us a place in the festivals! We need Trance man we need it!
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