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Eclectic,ok but...why to exagerate???
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BrettFromTibet
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Posted : Mar 19, 2005 17:55
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Rui Ferreira
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Posted : Mar 19, 2005 19:23
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...I think when you propose to come and play in a chillout room you must consider that most of the people are looking for relaxing moments, and aren't there to see a performance from a dj who wants to make an artistic point of view...for that kind of stuff there are special events where is mentioned what is all about...For me a good chillout session as most of any types of dj sessions are those where you don't even remember that there is a dj spinning records!  |
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barizon66
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Posted : Mar 19, 2005 21:44
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I agree with Rui, relaxing moments... the dj must control the crowd and make them feel comfortable with tunes, make 'em not even realize that there's a dj switchin tracks, and that's what qualifies a good dj from a lousy one, the knowledge and sense to play world music varying from 100 to even 135 bpm, who knows what the party requires... must have a good filled case for all ocasions, maybe pretending to play morning tunes like abakus in sunshine, a thin rain falls during the gig and the sky is closed... you can't play abakus then... or you pretend to play solar fields and ishq for sleeping ones and then there are only crazy fellas expecting psychadelic tunes, but not much slooower tunes from dancefloor, who knows, 130 - 135 bpm, ticon, younger brother, minilogue, shpongle, son kite... what if the crowd demands a progressive tune during the morning? I already heard about a deep house set on the chill out and people went crazy with it!
My humble opinion, a chill dj must have comfortable AND trippy music covering a wide beats range, then he probably can handle a gig without restrictions...
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Samsara
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Posted : Mar 30, 2005 18:55
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On 2005-03-19 21:44, barizon66 wrote:
My humble opinion, a chill dj must have comfortable AND trippy music covering a wide beats range, then he probably can handle a gig without restrictions...
cheers
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Yes a great selection is the key, also he should know what the Dj before him played that would make it much easier.
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NeutroN
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Posted : Mar 30, 2005 19:06
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IMO nights for relaxing static stuff, during the days (specially festivals) i think its ok to try out a few things or even maybe a more upbeat stuff but nothing close to the dance floor music. it will all depend on the moment to be honest, what u are feeling and what u perceive the crowd is up for.
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Harmony
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Posted : Mar 31, 2005 12:53
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Surely this labelling of 'artcore headf*ck' music is just the same as your mother calling psy just boomboomboom for drug addicts?
It's all opinion dude, someone posted something earlier in this thread that said OTT and Shpongle were 'sophisticated/complex' type of music. To me, although both good, I PERSONALLY wouldn't say they were overly sophisticated or complex compared to some of the other records I own.
It's all down to what the floor is feeling at that time, sitting, dancing, talking etc to make what the dj plays good.
just my thoughts
about that interview, I picked up a vinyl by those black dice guys and it's damn evil no doubt but I like it.
Ok it's not for the chillout but it doesn't mean it's a bad record. |
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nobody4
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Posted : Mar 31, 2005 14:52
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Harmony
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Posted : Mar 31, 2005 17:05
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Right or not, she's entitled to her opinions whatever
One can still be respectful towards other peoples tastes without giving derogatory labels to things they don't like. |
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Kaz
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Posted : Mar 31, 2005 20:14
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If I want to hear experimental music at a psytrance party, why do I need to wait until 10-11AM on the main stage? Because the DJs understand that unless you're famous no one will want you to do your own thing. If it would have been Youth squeezing in an Autechre track, everyone would say it rocked. Otherwise, people will just say the DJ stinks. Some DJs played a bit of downtempo 4x4 chill (@ Samothraki 2002) they were bashed for having a bassdrum/bassline, the next day Simon Posford decided to play the Propellorheads's remix of On Her Majesty's Secret Service (which isn't chilled at all) and was dubbed as a genius.
Why does everyone's idea of chillout have to be exactly in the Backroom Beats / LSD line? I find this much more troubling than the occasional DJ going overboard. The fact is that a bit of noise will scare off most pill munchers is no excuse for boring and relaxing being synonymous. And yes there are far more TOTALLY BORING chillout DJs than ones that scare off the crowd. That's why 99% of the sets in the chill-out area will leave absolutely no impression, and that's probably the main reason why people look down at the chill DJs.
Aiming for the mainstream is always the easiest thing to do. Just play some Massive Attack and the crowd is yours. Shpongle/Ott if it's a psytrance party. I prefer a DJ which has a bit more balls than that. http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222 |
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BrettFromTibet
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Posted : Mar 31, 2005 21:10
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>Surely this labelling of 'artcore headf*ck' music is >just the same as your mother calling psy just >boomboomboom for drug addicts?
hey... I heard the term brought up on this thread, so i walked into the local vinyl record shop and asked the trendy, tattooed clerk to suggest me some 'artcore headfuck' .. and he suggested this Black Dice band. no offense was meant! i thought the interview was very funny, kind of like the movie Spinal Tap.
if anyone wants to book some HIGHLY "eclectic" DJs that will scare the pill muchers out of your chillout room forever... i know some incredible local...talent... of that sort, and can arrange it.  pm me!
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Rui Ferreira
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Posted : Mar 31, 2005 21:41
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On 2005-03-31 20:14, kaz wrote:
If I want to hear experimental music at a psytrance party, why do I need to wait until 10-11AM on the main stage? Because the DJs understand that unless you're famous no one will want you to do your own thing. If it would have been Youth squeezing in an Autechre track, everyone would say it rocked. Otherwise, people will just say the DJ stinks. Some DJs played a bit of downtempo 4x4 chill (@ Samothraki 2002) they were bashed for having a bassdrum/bassline, the next day Simon Posford decided to play the Propellorheads's remix of On Her Majesty's Secret Service (which isn't chilled at all) and was dubbed as a genius.
Why does everyone's idea of chillout have to be exactly in the Backroom Beats / LSD line? I find this much more troubling than the occasional DJ going overboard. The fact is that a bit of noise will scare off most pill munchers is no excuse for boring and relaxing being synonymous. And yes there are far more TOTALLY BORING chillout DJs than ones that scare off the crowd. That's why 99% of the sets in the chill-out area will leave absolutely no impression, and that's probably the main reason why people look down at the chill DJs.
Aiming for the mainstream is always the easiest thing to do. Just play some Massive Attack and the crowd is yours. Shpongle/Ott if it's a psytrance party. I prefer a DJ which has a bit more balls than that.
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Justin Chaos
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Posted : Mar 31, 2005 22:25
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You have a point Kaz...I must say.
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dawn21682
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Posted : Apr 1, 2005 09:54
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my 2 cents on this issue:
well ive been playing chill sets regilarly for a very long time, and i can say that i think it is wonderful that the crowd is open to so many different tunes. i for one think that playing only "standard" chill tracks can get really monotonous after a while , so its always nice to be able to throw in some personal favourites every now and then , even if they are not the regular style.
BUT still it is important to do this in good taste, and not push it..
i still think you are there to make the people feel good and enjoy, so as long as youll rmember that you will be just fine 
i remember hearing justin chaos djing in portugal, and i really enojyd the tunes , a lot of diverse stuff, all mixed in good taste. |
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Justin Chaos
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Posted : Apr 7, 2005 00:26
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@dawn21682:Thanks!!!
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hyperion
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Posted : Apr 7, 2005 03:15
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I'm with you Kaz:)
a dj must find ways to impress the crowd and let them follow his trippy journey:)
Music may not take us to the Moon or let us live forever, but as we enter trough the doors it is opening before us, we find things far beyond our everyday experiences..
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