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DVD quality, a solution against mp3 downloads

nikur


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Posted : Apr 9, 2005 21:13
Back in the old days Vinyl had a pretty good sound quality then CDs came and took over. But CD's had a lower quality then vinyl.

Then mp3 became an option since the quality difference wasn't that huge.

All kind of protections failed.

So why not raising the quality of official releases by switching to DVD?

The quality difference between mp3 and DVD would be huge, then people might not want to play around with bad mp3 quality anymore.

CD - 44.1khz ... DVD- 192khz
CD - 16bit ... DVD- 24bit
Plus DVD could be surround sound.


Just an idea.


Bong_KR
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Posted : Apr 9, 2005 21:45
good idea man, and im sure it will happen soon.
traveller
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Posted : Apr 9, 2005 21:59
imo cd = a thousand times better quality to vinyl..           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
nikur


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Posted : Apr 9, 2005 22:20

That is not a matter of opinion.

By definition, a digital recording is not capturing the complete sound wave. It is approximating it with a series of steps. Some sounds that have very quick transitions, such as a drum beat or a trumpet's tone, will be distorted because they change too quickly for the sample rate.

In your home stereo the CD or DVD player takes this digital recording and converts it to an analog signal, which is fed to your amplifier. The amplifier then raises the voltage of the signal to a level powerful enough to drive your speaker.

A vinyl record has a groove carved into it that mirrors the original sound's waveform. This means that no information is lost. The output of a record player is analog. It can be fed directly to your amplifier with no conversion.

This means that the waveforms from a vinyl recording can be much more accurate, and that can be heard in the richness of the sound.


Riton
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 03:07
i learned smthg today
PsyUNIT
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 06:50
The main reason people give for downloading music is that cd's are costly (especially here in India).
If you start releasing music on DVD's then the sales will drop further cos the prices will go up.

If the price remains unchanged i'm all for it.

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Marsoupial
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 07:41
Quote:

On 2005-04-09 22:20, nikur wrote:

That is not a matter of opinion.

By definition, a digital recording is not capturing the complete sound wave. It is approximating it with a series of steps. Some sounds that have very quick transitions, such as a drum beat or a trumpet's tone, will be distorted because they change too quickly for the sample rate.

In your home stereo the CD or DVD player takes this digital recording and converts it to an analog signal, which is fed to your amplifier. The amplifier then raises the voltage of the signal to a level powerful enough to drive your speaker.

A vinyl record has a groove carved into it that mirrors the original sound's waveform. This means that no information is lost. The output of a record player is analog. It can be fed directly to your amplifier with no conversion.

This means that the waveforms from a vinyl recording can be much more accurate, and that can be heard in the richness of the sound.






You must be saying that vinyl is actually able to capture the sound perfectly without any loss in general quality...

However that might not be true, just say for eg. there are two very tiny spikes right next to each other, something would get lost in the manufacture of the record as the thing that cuts the vinyl cannot be as perfect as the original digital sound that was imprinted on it...
mouka
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 09:51
Anyone can rip the sound from a DVD so that won't help anything. Very few people can enjoy the full quality of a DVD because you need expensive equipment. And like Punit says few people can afford it to buy DVD's.
          www.ajana-records.com
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 11:57
i think artist may relese there music throw the internet with lower cost i know i will buy it
it was done in israel now by an israeli rock singer
RaSSahMunKaBuh
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 13:47
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On 2005-04-09 21:59, traveller wrote:
imo cd = a thousand times better quality to vinyl..


imo cd = 1 million times lamer format and the next junk yard item.(o_O)
traveller
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 13:59
Our music is made 99% with digital equipment and that's why a digital medium is the best solution for it, in my opinion. What's the point of transfering digital content to analog format?

Anyways yes I would love to buy audio dvds. I don't think they would be that much more expensive..           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
RaSSahMunKaBuh
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 14:26
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On 2005-04-10 13:59, traveller wrote:
Our music is made 99% with digital equipment and that's why a digital medium is the best solution for it, in my opinion. What's the point of transfering digital content to analog format?




ask that to all those 10000 dj s and btw vinyl plays bass much fatter.....
frisbee


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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 18:03
vinyl cant give you anything above about 12000 hz. (depending on the manufacturer) so if you want the hihats to sound right, you have to use cds
nikur


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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 18:23

The industry confinced everybody in the beginning that CD's are so much cheaper to manufacture then vinyl, therefore CDs will be sold much cheaper then Vinyl, but that did not really happen.

I am talking about moving to DVD "without" increasing the price. Everybody would win in the end!


full_on
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 19:32
I think that by analising the waveforms of CDs and Vinyls you can detect that vinyl lacks some of the higher frequencies (at least this was the results of the experiment I did).
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