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				Safa		          				 
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      				Posted : Feb 26, 2007 20:29
      				 
      
      			
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						hey  guys i use esm for my basses. but here i am reading all this sampling bass notes stuff, but i have no idea how to do it.
 can u guys help me out from the begining.?
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				Brain Hacked		          				 
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      				Posted : Feb 26, 2007 23:47
      				 
      
      			
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						I samples ESM, what i did is that i sampled  octaves(from 0 to 3) i recorded 6 takes from each note and then took the ones with the best or most stable envelope and loaded each sample in halion or kontakt				 | 
					 
					
						
						 
						
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				Seppa		          				 
      				
      			               
      				 
      				      				 
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      				Posted : Feb 27, 2007 00:00
      				 
      
      			
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						uhm...
 I don't see the need to sample  all notes over 3 octaves. make your bass as normal and sample just the note you need. unless  your making a set to reuse in the future.
 
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				Colin OOOD		          				 
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				PoM		          				 
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      				Posted : Feb 27, 2007 00:56
      				 
      
      			
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						the problem with the esm it s you can t know if the patch is really good until you try it with the sample, good luck when you have to do it all again  ,maybe using a good sampler with  one long note is enought for one octave?not sure if it ll add  bad artifacts or try a synth like rapture and import just one cycle of the waveform.				 | 
					 
					
						
						 
						
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				Brain Hacked		          				 
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      				Posted : Feb 27, 2007 01:11
      				 
      
      			
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						Colins right, thats why i sample more notes that the ones i may need., and first i make a patch of it in logic, make some bass and kick if i liek how it sounds then save the bass patch, sample it and load the samples in a sampler				 | 
					 
					
						
						 
						
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				Seppa		          				 
      				
      			               
      				 
      				      				 
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						I see... What can you tell me about albino is it stable enough; cause i didn''t have the will yet to sample my bass, its something i'm planning to do at the mix stage.
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				faxinadu		          				 
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      				Posted : Feb 27, 2007 16:07
      				 
      
      			
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 On 2007-02-25 23:26, Sound Surgeon wrote:
 Sampling for bass is great. Mostly its not used as a melody and we need bassline to be stable and 100% identical in each pattern.
 Thats why its better to sample it. Howeve it depends on what you want to create.
 
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 im not sure its always better to sample... sure, it provides stability, but takes away some feel and dynamic vibe. nothing wrong with some slight slight variation.
                  
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				AvS		          				 
      				
      			               
      				 
      				      				 
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						Yeah all this "sample-because-every-note-has-to-sound exactly-the-same" i getting out of hand.
 I've become so tired of all this new psytrace that just sounds so lifeless and robot-ish. 				 | 
					 
					
						
						 
						
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				Elad		          				 
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      				Posted : Feb 27, 2007 17:14
      				 
      
      			
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						on related topic 
 i had great fun today with korg ms2000
 some funky chunky basslines , and guess what? no retrigger  
 i guess its ALL depend on what each one is after.. musical vision may be... as long as however you want it you get it  
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				Sound Surgeon		          				 
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      				Posted : Feb 27, 2007 17:41
      				 
      
      			
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 hey ido,
 what you think about z3ta for bass? 
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 80% of my basses come from it
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				Sound Surgeon		          				 
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      				Posted : Feb 27, 2007 18:32
      				 
      
      			
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 On 2007-02-25 23:26, Sound Surgeon wrote:
 Sampling for bass is great. Mostly its not used as a melody and we need bassline to be stable and 100% identical in each pattern.
 Thats why its better to sample it. Howeve it depends on what you want to create.
 
 Thanks Ido!
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 im not sure its always better to sample... sure, it provides stability, but takes away some feel and dynamic vibe. nothing wrong with some slight slight variation.
 
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 Thats why I added that it depends on what you want to create.
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				Alex - Aural Invasion		          				 
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  |  listen first of all i wanna tell u that no matter how much u compare yr work to others it will never be the same 
 u will never get the same result unless u know exactly how it was processed and the chain , 
 which links me to the point that - u will ALLWAYS feel like 'damn , this shit is much better than mine' and than feel like shit (unless u have 1 ton of ego and u really like what u do:) 
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 Domestic, it's been a pleasure reading all your contributions to this thread, but i think this is probably the most important sentence of all   
 
 
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 I couldn agree more. Thx for sharing your wisdom!
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						from all of this great stuff only one thing bothered me ! how come you ido or no one mentioned Trilogy , tbh i was damn sure that you Ido and most of the hommega artists use it on regular base (double meaning   )
 This machine is awsome and to tell you something whenever i fell in love with a bass (such as your bass @ Came as quite a shock or Black & White 's bass Sub6 etc ... )and tried to create the same bass just for the experience i found myself creating almost exact bass with trilogy with tracks that now i found out that their bassline was made with another machine.
 anyway the point is I really really really really really really recommend trilogy.
 
 What do you people have to say ?  
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				fitzoyo		          				 
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						I think Ido mentioned trilogy is one of the synths he mainly uses for bass in his first post. I do agree though it is an awesome vst.				 | 
					 
					
						
						 
						
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