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Doctor Spook and bad/no payment !?!?
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k.t
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Posted : Jun 22, 2007 02:20
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wow !
this thread is even more entertaining than the India section 'used' to be . . .
LOL
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enter the time of CounterCulture ! |
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d1m1tr1
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Posted : Jun 22, 2007 04:31
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Enertopia
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Posted : Jun 22, 2007 04:50
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Man, again, I never worked before with geomagnetic, but again, I have read his comments and DR Spook seems like he is doing a lot of work to keep the music going on. Sometimes business and money can spoil the things up, but remember to keep the spirit up and keep looking forward, as I said before, geomagnetic got a track of mine as well, and I am happy about it.
Not only because it will be released soon but because of tha music it self, Im happy to compose and to produce, I just love doing it. Money will arrive too, but I will not let it spoil the good spirit of music creation, it has nothing to do with it.
Peace .
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kin beat
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Posted : Jun 22, 2007 07:20
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maybe you people were never into anything before starting to make psytrance, by that i mean that for example and (fits perfectly on Geomagnetic). its been releasing Dark music, most of the time i read on their bios that were former members of metal and noise bands before they produced psytrance, aight? before they were stars maybe.....
I still remember the old true days of being a hardcore kid and play/set/enjoyed gigs just to get the message out there, not even worrying who's outhere to release/record you. renting a van and drive 500 miles and knowing that if 1 kid downloaded your tracks and showed it to one of his friends they would go to the show and man i m telling you! sing along all the fuckin way!
Music and in this case psytrance being independent and not being manipulated by the big'o coorporate america is a not an easy business and that apply to any genre, record labels struggle a lot to actually be ables to release a CD.
see your name on an album and listen to your work and having it even masterized, its pretty damn good! labels will eventually break even, you guys must be patience, just remeber that you are not a coorporatation that especializes on selling music, but rather a musician that expresses himself by doing/having his or her music outhere making someones day. just try it out on your own and see if you could take yourself and reach the mainstream so you could be the next american idol and claim that you did it on your own!!!
make music for the love of it!!!
not to become rich!!!
if you are meant to be rich, you will be anyways by making or not music, so let it be. if 300usd would make you pooor then open up your eyes you were always poor and need to get a job.
I m sorry if i hurt anyone i just see it as it is, psytrance is not meant to be exploited and become a sustentable living style.
Nathan get yourself the secretary it would help you a lot and dont forget to lick the stamps before dropping the paychecks on the mail  they'll thank you.
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ENERGYLOOP
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Posted : Jun 22, 2007 07:59
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On 2007-06-22 07:20, kin beat wrote:
maybe you people were never into anything before starting to make psytrance, by that i mean that for example and (fits perfectly on Geomagnetic). its been releasing Dark music, most of the time i read on their bios that were former members of metal and noise bands before they produced psytrance, aight? before they were stars maybe.....
I still remember the old true days of being a hardcore kid and play/set/enjoyed gigs just to get the message out there, not even worrying who's outhere to release/record you. renting a van and drive 500 miles and knowing that if 1 kid downloaded your tracks and showed it to one of his friends they would go to the show and man i m telling you! sing along all the fuckin way!
Music and in this case psytrance being independent and not being manipulated by the big'o coorporate america is a not an easy business and that apply to any genre, record labels struggle a lot to actually be ables to release a CD.
see your name on an album and listen to your work and having it even masterized, its pretty damn good! labels will eventually break even, you guys must be patience, just remeber that you are not a coorporatation that especializes on selling music, but rather a musician that expresses himself by doing/having his or her music outhere making someones day. just try it out on your own and see if you could take yourself and reach the mainstream so you could be the next american idol and claim that you did it on your own!!!
make music for the love of it!!!
not to become rich!!!
if you are meant to be rich, you will be anyways by making or not music, so let it be. if 300usd would make you pooor then open up your eyes you were always poor and need to get a job.
I m sorry if i hurt anyone i just see it as it is, psytrance is not meant to be exploited and become a sustentable living style.
Nathan get yourself the secretary it would help you a lot and dont forget to lick the stamps before dropping the paychecks on the mail they'll thank you.
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again you take the subject out of context
IF HE WANTED THAT (PROMOTE ONLY)HE SHOOLD SAY SO FROM THE BIGINING AND NOT PROMIS MONEY INSTED
try ro read the treeds before ansering
and in my case it's more the 300$ he steel 3 track's out of me and that's hardly 300$ "fuck money..."
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kin beat
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Posted : Jun 22, 2007 08:13
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again you take the subject out of context
IF HE WANTED THAT (PROMOTE ONLY)HE SHOOLD SAY SO FROM THE BIGINING AND NOT PROMIS MONEY INSTED
try ro read the treeds before ansering
and in my case it's more the 300$ he steel 3 track's out of me and that's hardly 300$
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I did read it all, pretty interesting i must say. however You're Right and i should have state that as well, i read that in your personal case they were 3 tracks and should be more than $300. my mistake on that Mr Energyloop. 
anyways how far out of context is my comment going, see it. how else would the independent music be outhere??? it just happend to be him this time....
musicians make money out of their (live) performances, not out of CD sales. unless you're the rolling stones, and that's out of context, thought that was an old topic
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ENERGYLOOP
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Posted : Jun 22, 2007 08:21
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On 2007-06-22 08:13, kin beat wrote:
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again you take the subject out of context
IF HE WANTED THAT (PROMOTE ONLY)HE SHOOLD SAY SO FROM THE BIGINING AND NOT PROMIS MONEY INSTED
try ro read the treeds before ansering
and in my case it's more the 300$ he steel 3 track's out of me and that's hardly 300$
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I did read it all, pretty interesting i must say. however You're Right and i should have state that as well, i read that in your personal case they were 3 tracks and should be more than $300. my mistake on that Mr Energyloop.
anyways how far out of context is my comment going, see it. how else would you music be outhere??? it just happend to be him this time....
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i relised music long time before i knew this thif (my 1st relise was back in 2004 for dejavu). and i was working whit kindzadza and electrypnose long time befor that "thif" rob me off.
spook is a thif and a lier and nothing you can say that will change the fact that he is making money on our names whitout giving nothing back.
as i was saying before...
"fuck money..."
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kin beat
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Posted : Jun 22, 2007 08:27
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I didnt meant your music personally, but the newcomers, and in general rock, ska,hip hop etc etc... the question shoulda been how else would independent music be outhere? neither i m trying to change no ones mind, typing errors....
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ENERGYLOOP
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Posted : Jun 22, 2007 08:29
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so the use of inosent newcomers to F@#K them and rob them blind is ok ????
and they shoold say thank you natan for robing our music and using our names to make money ????
this is what you meen ?
"fuck money..."
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kin beat
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Posted : Jun 22, 2007 08:52
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ENERGYLOOP
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Posted : Jun 22, 2007 09:02
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On 2007-06-22 08:52, kin beat wrote:
of course not. ripping people off is not even funny. i just buy his statement that no one has stolen nothing, he showed up and replied.....
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dude... if i (and i know menny others) dident get payd for thise track's he relise and sell and i never sign any contract whit him meens he steel it and it makes him a THIFF whit a capital T "fuck money..."
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Bodhi 13:20
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Posted : Jun 22, 2007 12:17
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On 2007-06-21 12:08, Meta wrote:
Spook...
.... you live in the same basement, use the same animation studio computers that you've had since before the label started, drive the same shitty 1987 Toyota with the door smashed in...
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fuckin aeon lol
so far, spooks been relatively decent.
he's done me better than some of the other labels.
info/tourdates/psy
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Elad
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Posted : Jun 22, 2007 14:37
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@ kin beat
1.do you have a studio ? (i do , for creatng music)
2.did you pay alone on your studio ? (i did , since this is life)
3.your studio cost over 15000$ ? (yap here it does , i wanna make quality toonz not to be another amatuere , it takes some gear!)
4. does a great track take a week to make ? (perhaps even more , i know great artists who nee 3 weeks for great track)
5.did you allready spent 5 years on creaton and promotion for your dj/live act ? (i did , and im not going to be satisfied with 2 kids come to my show after download latest release)
6. do you eat ? (i do , and food cost money)
if you said no in one of those questions , you have no right to judge peaple that answer yes for their actions. they put their lives into it (like me)
it all might be "cool" for you , but for some its cirious way of life not just the cream of the weekend!
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Alias
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Posted : Jun 22, 2007 16:16
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Khopat
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Posted : Jun 22, 2007 16:38
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On 2007-06-22 08:52, kin beat wrote:
of course not. ripping people off is not even funny. i just buy his statement that no one has stolen nothing, he showed up and replied.....
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He showed up and replyed??? man have u read the all threat? Why he comes here to isratrance apologizing and trying to blame other people for his unprofessional behaviour , and im still waiting for a reply to my mail! Man this started all because of a tremendous lack of comunication that only took me to believe that he is a thief! And stop talking about newcommers , a deal is a deal , all this newcommers acomplished what they were asked for , so please for the ones that are not into this subject please dont talk bullshit , cause this post is mainly a warning for that no one else gets screwed by spook or by some other label manager , dj , etc etc!
Boom
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