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Do some djs prepare the set before a gig?
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DJSarasin
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Posted : Jun 19, 2009 18:04
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Its not about being nervous.
Maybe its just the trance scene....and club scenes....but I can tell you that anywhere else....DJs will work on their sets before hand.
Mixing is not hard. There are millions of kids out there mixing these days.
So what makes you special? Being able to "read" the crowd?
I can tell you....it will not work for you everytime.
If you are being paid TOP dollar....i for one would expect you to have done your homework and come with a proper set organised.
I would not be impressed if you just chose trax willy nilly.
Sure...there are times when you can wing it.....but others where you need to 100% sure that you mixes will sit 100% with each other.
Things like mixing in KEY come into play then.
These are thing MUCH bigger than beatmixing and reading the crowd IMHO.
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ultraviolence
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Posted : Jun 20, 2009 09:07
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Yeah I agree, it is not about the fear of fvcking up on stage, it's about delivering a better product to he listeners and it's about learning your tracks back to front and knowing how to stack em together rather than just having one predefined set etc. Each to his own of course.
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squirm
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Posted : Jun 20, 2009 10:42
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@ sarasin and ultraviolence - +1
was just citing a possible reason for wanting to prepare a set
but yeah as i said earlier and to add to what you guys mentioned, whatever makes the dj comfortable and able to deliver the goods, so long as your not going as far out as to play a pre-recorded set  , is cool in my books 
@ sarasin - off topic i know but whens that compilation coming man - am waiting to hear more rabdom l 
cheers!
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ultraviolence
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Posted : Jun 21, 2009 04:35
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Hey squirm, not that is cool man, I understand what you're saying
I don't think a complete set should be predefined, more like you should know all your tracks that you may wanna play (even the ones that will not potentially be in your set) so well that you can restack them in any way you like in case you feel the need to Or restack parts of set, 2-3 track chunks of it, add another track in the middle etc
Oh, playing pre-recorded set is just awful in my opinion, unless it's for a joke as Dj Press Play used to do around here ))
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squirm
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Posted : Jun 21, 2009 18:53
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DJSarasin
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Posted : Jun 22, 2009 00:42
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DJSarasin
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Posted : Jun 22, 2009 00:46
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On 2009-06-21 04:35, ultraviolence wrote:
Hey squirm, not that is cool man, I understand what you're saying
I don't think a complete set should be predefined, more like you should know all your tracks that you may wanna play (even the ones that will not potentially be in your set) so well that you can restack them in any way you like in case you feel the need to Or restack parts of set, 2-3 track chunks of it, add another track in the middle etc
Oh, playing pre-recorded set is just awful in my opinion, unless it's for a joke as Dj Press Play used to do around here ))
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I might be off topic here...but take Electro for example.
Most of the DJ's are making their own edits of trax.
Not REMIXES......EDITS.
Electro makes it possible to take the best pieces of trax old and new and edit it so you just have the killa bits.
Then you jam those and remix on the fly.
This is doing your homework correctly if you playing a big party and you want to stand out etc.
But I understand Psytrance is not about bigging up the DJ.
Its baout being in the trance state etc.
This is why i say its a 2 way situation.
If you are headlining....make the effort to organise your shit.
If you playing just another set...wing it....by all means!
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Kitnam
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Posted : Jun 23, 2009 12:11
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ballance of both works best.
be prepared and flexible at the same time.
and yes ultra, knowing the tracks well is essential.
i often find myself thinking 3-4 hours before which track to play at first (i know its crazy). the final decision is often made only 2 minutes before the set starts. but i realy like it when the first track fits perfectly just like a sneaky poker-bet. not too much, not too soft. anyway i think that a full prepared set is not something which is what the listeners want. give the listener a voice and make him possible to influence your playing. this makes our culture so special in my opinion. its not just stage to crowd communication. there must be an interaction on the same level from both directions.
easy to speak out but hard to master.
form my experience using a totally "nonplanned" set needs to beeing build on a floor where something is going on.
we all know this very small partys where only 10 people dance - picking up the wrong tune can cut away half of the floor. no more feedback given to work with. in such cases a prepared set would fit better i think. |
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ultraviolence
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 01:55
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Posted : Jun 27, 2009 19:45
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Here's what I do, I keep MOST of my CDs in a safe place. I can't stand a real CD getting scratched. Especially rares or limited editions. For Example: BLAH mixed by TALOS. There's only so many copies of that particular CD.
Anyway, I listen to my stuff OVER AND OVER, find the stuff that rocks my butt the most and burn the hot stuff onto CD-Rs. I also keep my "spec-ops" as I call them on a flash drive. I keep a notebook with CD numbers, and all the track titles, and small notes.
I start out with something not too extreme, but that I enjoy - watch the crowd, and see what they respond to the most. Responses could come from anything, beatdrops, melodies, crashes, pauses, samples, the list goes on. I keep notes in my head, and jot things down on paper. I continue with what seems to keep them going and end the set with something epic.
The only thing I know I will play are new tracks to test on the crowd.
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Upavas
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 08:19
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Posted : Jun 30, 2009 01:08
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Sakyamuni
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Posted : Jul 17, 2009 20:30
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Although many djs do this, is not the best way.
I usually write in a paper my favorite tracks and classifies them.
The classification is staff and ensure that no one understand what I mean, just me.
It's like:
Producer XX - XX Track: Darky, Fatbass, Wet.
Producer YY - YY Track: dayly, kick dry.
So you can establish a sequence of sounds in the same line without forgetting the "feeling".
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Shiranui
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Posted : Jul 19, 2009 04:31
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I'm thinking when I switch to DJing on laptop I'll name all of my .wav files like
A#m-144-artist-track-deep-dark-acidline-techy-weird-scary.wav
so that I can think "I need a track in Bb major, that has acid lines in it" and just type "Bb acidline" into the search box. |
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