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DJ`s who cant mix!

___Weirdo_beardo
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Posted : Nov 16, 2001 23:28:32
What's so cool about being a DJ?
You only play records that others made?..
Hehehehehe...

/W. Beardo - who finally cut out trying to be a DJ, and put 100% in making of noises...
___yuli
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Posted : Nov 17, 2001 16:53:29
YES!!!! Finally..

Weirdo - u r the man
___bagakid
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Posted : Nov 17, 2001 22:46:50
i can agree with that also

DJ'ing is a fun thing, but thats about it...
___Psychadelo
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Posted : Nov 18, 2001 09:29:54
the most fun thing is :
Being a dj and play your own music :)
___bagakid
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Posted : Nov 18, 2001 11:13:35
thats right :)
___yuli
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Posted : Nov 18, 2001 13:03:05
;-)
___Auspexx
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Posted : Nov 18, 2001 13:41:29
what is a DJ anyway?

what is a psy-trance DJ? it seems that anybody with a couple of CDs/MDs/DATs can be one. so what are we wasting our time for, practicing, filtering music and producing?
I mean, u go to play in a party, then a couple of [kids] show up, starting to mess around with the gear (playing with the gain full open, pausing a running track instead of the one in the headphones, these sort of things), ppl get confused, stop dancing...and all because of this "DJ-friend" attitude our scene has - everybody is a DJ...

PROMOTERS! ppl pay a lot of money to get into your parties, why do you underestimate your crowd by bringing you friends over to play on their expence?
___kaz
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Posted : Nov 18, 2001 14:33:12
Tal shoots and scores, my thoughts exactly :)
___Lo69sT
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Posted : Nov 18, 2001 15:06:30
totally in agreeance with Auspexx...

especially here in Melbourne as of late, there a lot of so-called "djs" who just jump on the decks and play at friends parties...music is good but the beat-mixing is way off in some cases. As a newcomer to the scene, i love nothing more than playing a set and getting the crowd pumped, playing songs they all love and trying to get the beats right.

BUT

as psychadelo said, there is nothing like playing your own music. I cannot imagine how good this would be - the ultimate IMO. Don't get me wrong, i love playing music, but i am not a dj. I will only classify myself as a dj when i have made my own music. Right now, i am just another bloke who likes beat mixing (which could be considered a dj, but IMO you need to actually make your own stuff, otherwise anyone can be a dj!)

For the small parties it is ok to have some fun, but the big parties you need an experienced dj who has made his own music and knows what he is doing e.g. i could play talamasca and get the crowd going wild, but you could not compare that to DJ Lestat playing his own stuff.

So, IMO a lot of us just love playing music because we do not have the equipment to practice on or produce our own stuff. Until we do, we will just stick to playing small doofs and let the pros handle the major events.

that's my 2 cents worth anyway...

peace
___david_kebab
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Posted : Nov 18, 2001 19:55:54
first time i agree with u tal
___Kinetichonda
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Posted : Nov 18, 2001 21:03:16
Also did you ever think of a DJ as a live remixer? that's what I'm trying to do when playing. mix stuff on top so that it sounds like a remix. when your technique is good enough (mine isn't yet but I'm getting there) it's almost as good as playing live. and I have no creation aspirations, I have no patientce to sit at home in front of a computer and write tracks, instead of synthesizing sounds I go to the record store and buy records that fit the sounds that I'm looking for.
___kaz
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Posted : Nov 18, 2001 22:31:37
Hell yeah!

Borris got right to the point here. A DJ is not just a technical job, there's a lot more into it than that. The musical taste, reading the crowd (and giving us more of what we want, and knowing what the people want more than the people themselves), knowing when to mix in a track, and HOW, to take out parts of tracks he feels are bad (or just not good for parties), playing tracks side by side, working with more than just 2 channels when it's right.... At times, it can be as much of an artform as any (a Process DJ set, for instance).

It's a very complex deal, and a lot of people just don't have that touch that the leading DJs do. It's not like everyone was born a DJ and only a few decided to work on it.
___bagakid
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Posted : Nov 19, 2001 00:24:25
thats the problem, since everyone is doing it, dj'ing has lost its value as a respected profession.

while saying that, theres some 'UNBElIEVABLE DJ's' out there....and i agree its an 'artform', too bad the whole world is a DJ ..

___david_kebab
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Posted : Nov 19, 2001 04:20:14
only in trance-world, in other scene djs are doing just fine.
___Reece
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Posted : Nov 19, 2001 10:08:37
hmmmmm, i've always wondered what the rest of the trance community thinks about dj's/mixing...
to me, one of the most attractive things about trance parties, was that there was no expectation on the person playing the music to be a superstar dj as they appear in so many other forms of electronic music today. it was refreshing to see ppl just digging the music for the music's sake, instead of having this beatmixing vinyl scratching ego fuelled superstar behind the decks... for me the most important thing imho is first and foremost the quality and selection of the tracks played... as long as this is killer, the mixes can all be ambient cross-fades for all i care. beatmixing trance just doesnt work for me either. any other style of techno, for sure, but trance trax are so complete on their own,... plus it gives u a little breather in between :)
anyway, if any of u ever come to australia and hear dj's such as luna orbit or luke psywalker (digital psionics) u will understand what i mean! -these guys use mostly md's and dat's, sometimes cd's, so there is no beatmixing involved, but their sets continually melt ppl's brains cause they really know their shit!!!
leave the turntable wizardry to others i say, just gimme the toons !!!

my 5 cents

:)
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