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CHIPSET
Chipset / Woogie Boogie
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Posted : Sep 4, 2006 17:37
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crovo
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Sep 4, 2006 18:04
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hey barows!
the artists are good, a lot of new comers and well oriented into dark trance.
but the parties still very small and very, very, difficult to organize (no public = no money).
nowadays the dark music is growing up, step by step.
  Obiit - Industrial Ambient
www.dead-tree.net/obiit
Dead Tree Productions - Obscure Psychedelic Trance Label
www.dead-tree.net
Uroboros Productions - Psychedelic Progressive/TechTrance Label
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Spocko
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Posted : Sep 4, 2006 18:43
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Yeah... we have the artists, just need more parties. |
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cannabero
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Posted : Sep 4, 2006 18:44
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CHIPSET
Chipset / Woogie Boogie
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Posted : Sep 4, 2006 18:57
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i agree about the artists and the upcoming artists that are kickinŽasses and no place to play.. some big parties nowadays are bringing good night names.. its a good thing i think.
some upcoming artists that i like a lot are:
canibal bbq
demonizz
necropsycho
headoze
leptvm
DO YOU THINK NIGHT MUSIC IS FASHION IN BRAZIL? hehehe iŽd like to known wha u think 
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Hg
IsraTrance Team
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Posted : Sep 4, 2006 22:54
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The music is very bad, amateur and non quality. The people who play and pretend they are artists are nothing but jokes and these parties should never exist, imo.
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full_on
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Posted : Sep 4, 2006 23:41
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My friend IT is a litttle bit radical, but I agree with him in all points, except that these parties should never exist.
As he said, IMO music is very bad, amateur and has a very low quality. There's no way to compare the quality of the music from these new Brazilian "dark artists" with the quality of the music that is being released by the VERY FEW labels who release dark music with acceptable quality.
The worst worldwide drawback of dark music nowdays is that it's production lacks quality. A lot of artists are clueless about this issue of audio enginering and pre-mastering, and this is ESSENTIAL to play a descent Live Act, or even to spin the tracks at a DJ set.
Respect!
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...Be gentle with the earth...
...Dance like nobody's watching...
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Hg
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 00:06
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That too. But my comment was based on the following perception:
Parties as such lack in musical quality. Ditto.
What else can they be good for?
Unlike happy hippie om nama shivaya boom shankar bolenath shiva bless parties, that lack musical quality too, "dark" parties are filled with heavy angry energy.
Different drug abuse than shiva shiva boom boom - much more aggressive and destructive.
Therefore, imo, these parties should not exist, they are bad in every aspect and No! I would never think it's cool to be different like that. In other words, what good does being destructive do to the scene, to life in general?
Sorry, but this anger and negativity is just weak. This trend too will pass and will be a reason for shame, wait and see, or vanish and hide.
mwahahahaha, choosing "dark" itself is part of a process called auto-illusion, get over it!
Plus, imo, dark is an adjective that suits a "fashion" trend much better than a style of music. Big difference! And that's just the beginning of how lame this musical concept is.
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full_on
IsraTrance Team
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 00:29
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Well, changing the word "dark" by the word "night" may help?
I don't see or feel ALL night or dark music as evil or negative or "filled with anger". For sure A LOT of the night/dark producers are mostly on the cliché Evil/devil/demons/destruction/killing/aggression. This is easily spotted on the track's samples...
As a "Sample Expert", I can say that some night/dark tunes have also positive and funny messages.
Personally, I don't like many 150+ bpm tracks, but night/dark music can have much less beats per minute and a reflexive message/atmosphere, for example the classic and exceptional track Penta - Lost in Space with 144 bpm.
Usually what night/dark parties lack is good DJs to really try to get from one point to another, instead of just playing killargh tunes.
So there is diversity... This said, even if people who enjoy this demons/destruction/killing/aggression kind of music wants to make parties, let them make it, I won't be there, but people are free to make what they want... And after all these parties can't be worse than many others at our beloverd country...
Respect!
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...Dance like nobody's watching...
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crovo
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 02:16
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@ IT:
why do you've posted here anyway?
"'dark' parties are filled with heavy angry energy" -> hahahaha! for god sakes, man! this is about the scene in brazil, not about the style of music and what do you think about it.
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yeah, the new artists are starting now, obviously, getting better, working hard. they're not perfect, of course, but i'm sure they are making real good tracks for who enjoy this kind of music.
the parties are small because the public is small. how do you do a party very well decorated, with a ultra-soundsystem, in a fantastic place, if you don't have money for this? in goiânia we don't have more than 300 ppl in a night party (dark trance, prog. trance, night fullon, twisted - 11pm to 07am).
all the scene is growing up here in brazil, few parties, hard-worker newcomers producers. but the people here still don't understand what dark trance is.
the style is new, so... who like of it, try to make it better.
the most easy thing to do is use the argument saying that dark trance (here and everywhere) is low-quality, producers don't give a damn to eq. and mastering, "bad vibe" because of the theme/inspiration of the producers, etc, etc, etc.
ah... fvck. anyway, let it be. everything takes time.
Obiit - Industrial Ambient
www.dead-tree.net/obiit
Dead Tree Productions - Obscure Psychedelic Trance Label
www.dead-tree.net
Uroboros Productions - Psychedelic Progressive/TechTrance Label
http://uroboros.dead-tree.net |
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dgl
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 02:56
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it you should grown up man dunt know nothing about real psychadelia ya ? 
i dunt know what is Trance if its what you looking for babba
sorry lets hear more astrix and boom booom shiva shanti ? oh i never know
quality of sounds ? dunt see osom music very happy happy songs dude
lets open mind
BOOOOOOM
THE REAL DARK SPIRIT  
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Catatonic_D.
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 02:58
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Hello,
I am paying close attention to the rising artists in Brazil and all of them that I have spoken with say that there are very few parties and little or no support from the majority of party-goers.
Everyone has a right to listen to whatever they choose but when it comes to oppression of certain artistic styles things become questionable. I have the feeling this is exactly what is happening in Brazil but I could be wrong.
I have read in this thread here about complaints in the quality of "dark" artists music. This is a very subjective term. One must understand that not all, and in fact very few, artists can afford to purchase an expensive rig on which to produce. Furthermore, if a party is small and/or has a budget the likelyhood of it having a high-end soundsystem is very slim. While I do understand that many new artists are ignorant of many aspects of production and many are trying to break out too soon, too fast this is no way should result in them not doing parties to promote and present their art forms. This statement is specifically aimed at "IT". While you only present an honest opinion here one has to consider what sort of thought processes such opinions can put into motion. Ultimately, it has, can, and will lead to smothering of specific art forms.
Lastly, I find it rather funny that people in the "lighter" dance crowds of the trance arena always associate "dark" with "evil". You really need to wake up and abandon such prehistoric idealologies. Often times, as is the case with my own musical goals, dark music is about confronting ones owns demons. In this the term demons can be equated with fears. Also, one has to understand how superficiality the full-on parties have taken on for many people. They no longer hold near the same validity to someone who is genuinely seeking enlightenment. The more we "dark" artists confront this elitelist nonsense about what should and should not be played at a party the less validity full-on party-goers DJs, and artists have. This is simply because such statements are ultimately the profane fruits of an obscenely inflated egos. The ego perpetuates the illusion of reality as we grow and come to "understand" its elements. Trance is about letting go. It is the oldest form of music in the world if one really considers its true roots and its basic shamanistic orgins. The dancefloor and trance music form the ultimate catalyst for personal revelations.
I understand that darker forms of music really creep some people out or just turn them off. I listen to and enjoy most forms of electronic music. I just happent to feel and believe that more aggressive forms of music are better suited for breaking down peoples egos. This is the first and most essential step toward enlightenment.
We, as a species, understand very little and know even less.
I, for one, will lend all the support I can for the new "dark" artists in Brazil as I discover them. The same goes for other artists in any artist in any country whose music I happen to discover.
It is a pure and total shame that there are so few Brazilians are willing to help some young artists break out.
Peace,
Catatonic D.
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Manash
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 03:16
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the scene in brasil is very small, but i can see that more people are getting interested on dark music.
but it still has a very slow development..
there are some newcomers and already known projects that are representing the scene and they are doing good
i think we're on the right way
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Cosmoon
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 04:00
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"I just happent to feel and believe that more aggressive forms of music are better suited for breaking down peoples egos."
Good Good ... |
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dgl
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 04:17
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ok np IT im doing yore MORTE
when you tell this :
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is becuz when you are at parti you likes drop your xtc phill and feel your fucking horrible vibe
i love all this guys and his music 
take it easy man
peace |
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