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Dark/Night Scene in Brazil

psymonster


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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 04:19
as crovo said, the dark scene here in Goiânia and in many places in brazil it´s still growing....
Chipset and baphomet are already known projects for those who are in scene for a long time....
we expect that dark parties also dark projects get better everyday and we will have our way into the dark side all over the world...

we hope that they become known by their hard work and great music as well their good music improves day by day...
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 04:30
i have my opinion maybe others dont agree ,but taste is taste we cant change the other taste.For me the right ting is have dark and night stuff at night .every sound have the time to be played ,i tink put just morning or just prog or just elctro all party time is not good as the same way put just dark and night ,the sound must be puted in the right time ,not as usal here in brazil ,promoters put 24 hours of morning stuff ,but i see its changing, organizers are starting to see this point and bringuing many dark and night names .Th dark/night sene in brazil is just starting have few good names alerdy doing kila tracks and many growling i guess in few time people will see that every sonud have the right time to be played .But is as shame taht i saw in this topic some people coment as it was if yu like it or not í respect people who dont like the night or dark sound its matter of taste but come here and tell sech tings puting your personal taste its ridiculus.and the dark or night stuff cant be generalized like that .its trance mostly underground trance ,the trance born like that underground ,now geting pop but the real spirit is tthe underground way that here in brazil almost dont exist any more,for sure it hapend but less .and we can see many projets around the world with top quality and killa ideas ,people must open mind for that and dont just asimilate the same formula .i respect all generes of trance even if i dont like .thets the point.
respect.

Trance dark and ningth for me is closer of heavy metal and hard core stuff its heavy sound ,heavy the heavy meta in the beging have the same mpact in people scars and make people have fear but now hevay metal mostly is pop ,its just matter of time to all people assimilate for sure its not for all if yu dont like just dont listen go and listen britney spaers trance.and i am sure around the world and also here in brazil there is a lot of people who love the stlyle and the sensation of heavy stuff.
Hg
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 04:39
Djs on leprosy - fingers and ears.

In my opinion, music should at least be fun and we are here to take that fun to another extent.

It's not that I don't respect other points-of-view, people have free will and I have no pity as far as that is concerned.

I am, however, concerned when music makes ugly faces and attracts a violent crowd with violence.

This is not a generalization, I understand positive factors of a dark oriented tune in the form of catharsis, like tragic poems.

That could be healthy.

You, however, who support dark trance in a "satanic" way to me is a big looser. Why?

First, because you are a hipocryte. Spend seven days without food, no water, in silence, under rain and then you shall see dark, you will suffer and I don't want that for you, the same way I know you don't.

By definition, if you ever go to Hell you never get out of it. No way.

I could present 100 solid reasons, that you probably already know, on how infantile and ignorant this misconcept of "releasing demons" is, through darkness.

And 1000x on how far from being artistic this music is. But your viewpoint could be different. Still, I can say you are following a much easier path.

I just hope people with such dumb mentality don't influence as much young people into being like them. One more reason to go against this cheap movement.

Again, choosing the easy way out does not make any real good, because the present is happening light years ahead of what you think, if you're so revolted .

And if it comes down to a matter of taste and you think eating shit is good, go ahead dude, you won't last long.

If you don't, go back to your studies and one day you will "break out" - of ignorance.

Why did I come over here? Because I have seen a root of "dark" experience with my own eyes, in pagan ritual at an old church in europe when my friend Zolod, Parasense, was still alive and although I understood some significance in it, people passed away and that was not cool, believe me.

and you, Catatonic Despair, if you also aspire for the evil part, maaan I sware you have no chance against me.           cna't find it
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 04:55
It in this your last post i agree with yu ,i dont like association with evil tings ,but a lot of people like, yu must let thaem go the way they chose,try to help them is good but ofend its worst thing yu can do we can see thta in many other music stles ,rock (led zepelin ,marylin manson,and black matel and other heavy metal stuff there are so many tahta do thta) ,its not just in trance or just in dark or night we can also see thta in morning tracks and we can also see people making ungly faces in the mornig or afternoon ,people take drugs and make ugly faces with any soound and also get agressive too.its just matter of taste for me i love horror moves and also the sound on it for me music is the same way some poeple like this sensation.(i am not teling tahta i made horror sound)I just tink we cant generalizate and associate all night and dark stuff with evil tings ,its the sond for night have to be obscure or heavy ,we have many ways to do that ,not just associating with evil tings ,if we be so hard on our opinoin i guess better start an trance gospel stlye ,that way it never will sound evil .only way becase even morning ,prog ,electro we can see association with eveil ,music is like that every were dont be so drastic.

Some times we have to walk in the dark to see the light
Hg
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 05:13
stereographic dyslexic I'm glad you got some of the point so far.



Why are you writing everything messed up?

          cna't find it
crovo
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 05:21
oh, man... please stop, i can't read all the same bullshit again. every topic that has "dark" in the title someone who don't agree with the ideas of "being dark" came and write all their thoughts about life and death, good and bad, and bla bla bla...

>> this topic is about the brazilian dark trance scene. if you haven't anything to say about the local artists (good or bad. just be critic, not a jerk) or the parties, or anything related with brazilian people, please keep all your words for yourself. <<

tony (catatonic) already said what the music is all about. so let forget this subject and listen whatever we want to.
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Kzar


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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 05:21
"All praises to Diablo - Lord of Terror and Survivor of the Dark Exile. When he awakened from his long slumber, my lord and master spoke to me of secrets that few mortals know. He told me the Kingdoms of the High Heavens and the Pits of the Burning Hells engage in an eternal war. He revealed the powers that have brought this discord to the realms of man. My lord has named the battle for this world and all who exist here the Sin War."

Or something Like that .. . .
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 05:45
stereographic dyslexic I'm glad you got some of the point so far.



Why are you writing everything messed up?


aehahehaehaeaehhaehaeahehaeaehaehaheeeeeeeeeeeeee

yu are so funy ,
i dont have to put words all weel do yu are are inglish teacher also ? if people get the point i dont care ,so i know teacher IT i get 0 on the inglish test ,but i dont tink its matter ,mater that yu today are out of your mind have no respect with no body in this topic and this is a shame for a moderator .yu just dont like the sound so just talk bad abou it,

god and evil is the balance of the true force
some people are over god and evil and others no

but yu i am sure that the evil is in yu ,yu just talk bad of people ,nothing god ,yu are so funy thta i cant stop ehahaeaehaeheah of yu here .man i dont want to fight ,i respect yu ,but yu are not respecting no one here . as i moderator yu have to be imparcial and at least have some respect with people

Music is entereteniment like movies we have horror ,vilolence,sex,comic ,we have also disney ehaheaheheeheheh

Sorry all about my bad inglish
Hg
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 06:01
Right, I suppose your messed up response is just as good as your music. Alright, I guess that way you still haven't learned what it is to have a conversation - that was my intent.

Now, if anyone feels disrespected there must be some misunderstanding on my side, please let me know what is not clear and I will reconsider.

One more thing, I have taken enough judgemental comments directed directly to my person and I consider that disrespect. So, if you have nothing to say about what is said and not about who said it - unless there's a direct relation already established by both parts, then it's even better no to direct your replies to people, but to remain on topic, or leave.
          cna't find it
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 06:15
It if yu dont like my music or other dark or night its like nothing ,i dont care and nobody care ,the point is yu must be less agressive on your language ,in my first topic i told that thats was mine opinion ,yu have yours but talking like that will not bring us any were as i tell yu i dont want to fight yu but we all can read your posts and see the desrespect with all
and how yu can judge my music if yu dont even have it .maybe yu have some old stuff but even like thta if yu dont like i will never cares ,but at least i am doing and tryng to improve our night scene ,doing someting costrutctive and not descostrutive as others ,and for me yu talking bad about night and dark in geral its a very strange atitude for a moderator we can see that stlye blasting in all parts of the world just vistit other contry forums and we see it explicit ,,some music is not for all , ,but as a moderador yu must respect the night and dark genere because its trance if yu dont like just keep for yu all world dont need to see how impacial yu are as a moderator
Catatonic_D.


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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 06:21
Sorry to keep this going but some issues need to be addressed here.

Primarily because a lot of people do not realize what the problem often really is with people not wanting to hear dark music.

First, IT the mere fact that you are quickly beginning to sound like a ranting evangelical indicates to me that you are assuming an offal lot about a lot of people. In short, you are stereotyping.

I do not believe in Satan, nor Heaven, nor Hell, thus it is quite hard for me to worship or aspire to any symbols such as these. Yes, read some Jung and research archetypes to see what I mean by symbols here.

You want to suppress dark music because you assume there are satanists who will gather behind it and start coming to your "good" parties and ruin everything for you. I have been listening and following this music for some time. I have yet to meet a SINGLE satanist at a psytrance party. I am not saying they are not there but I am merely pointing out the outrageousness of your paranoia. You definitely need some dark music in your life IMHO to break down these barriers of yours or something to put you back on track (if you ever were...).

Furthermore, if you wish to envoke "Christian" symbols on these forums I think you should really research the history of the church and its resultant (supported) governments to find out they really about dancing, drugs, and free-thinkers.

As far as me having some sort of chance against you...puh lease LOL...

This is not a contest or a race. This is about new artists in your country getting sick and tired of confronting elitists such as yourself and hearing that they have no right to party or play their music.

The heavier musics are growing in popularity in Brazil for a reason. People are waking up to invalidity of full-on as a catalyst for enlightenment for a reason. One aspect of this reason is because of attitudes like yours, IT. And, for this, I ultimately would like to thank you. Thank you very much for sending people off into the shadows in search of something new. I hope you stay commercial and continue touting on about the "quality" of cookie-cutter trance tracks. You are very good at it and everyone should focus more time on their talents.

Peace,
Catatonic D.
Tony
dgl


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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 08:12
UP Catatonic....



more porn music than all !!!!
uhuuuu ibiza style

peace
diogo_c
Becoming Intense

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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 13:09
hi guys,

to take the discussion a little bit towards the 'musical' field, besides all the vibes n tastes...just to make things clear:

what are we calling 'dark' or 'night' here? i.e. which artists/labels? dark = random noises with 150 beats? night = a heavier kind of full-on like 'lost in space' from penta?


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Grapes Of Wrath

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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 17:23
hi everbody,,,,

well as a , by other people labelled dark artist(g.o.w / syntax error) I HEREBY INVITE IT TO COME TO DENMARK AND STAY WITH ME FOR A LITTLE WHILE...so you can meet some of the satanic worshippers you think is making the dark music....or maybe you realize its very nice people with no bad intentions at all.... the only difference is we like some other music than you......and make no mistake i dunt like daytime music at all, but still , there must be room for everybody so i dunt mind a all that they get their shot.... and i should have mine,,,,,,and also wouldnt it be fucking boring if evrybdy like the same music.....

shom biva
Morus


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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 17:48
Quote:

On 2006-09-04 17:37, CHIPSET wrote:
ola ppl.. i´d like to known what u think about the parties and artists (Dark/Night) in brazil, and what u think should we to do for make it better.

xD




Dark music parties in Brazil are still small and underground, since everyone knows that what really rule here are the morning psytrance parties and artists. The artists (djs and producers) are few but some of them are working really hard to try to spread and improve the scene quality, with good music and parties. Some promoters are starting to open their minds to the night oriented music by booking dark psy artists to their parties, just like Vagalume crew are doing in their well-known Universo Paralello festival, which has always given the true value to the night music and will present this year artists as Electrypnose, Parahalu, Naked Tourist, Penta, me and many other night oriented djs and producers. So, this way i think it's just a matter of time for the night psytrance scene to grow and expand its limits and become as solid as the morning scene in Brazil. That's what I hope so and I'm doing my best towards that!

About that relation made between satanism and dark psytrance, it's all bullshit IMO, since it's all about music, sounds, noises, not about gods or religion, which is another subject which we shouldn't even discuss here. I don't agree with those who associate dark psytrance with evil things or take it to the non-musical side of the subject. IMO, dark psytrance is one of the few styles of psytrance which is keeping the true psychedelia alive. The hypnotic streams and deep atmospheres of night-time music is a lot more psychedelic than most of those banging kickass pumpers uplifting morning psytrance tracks, IMO. But, as many here might think, I agree that we should have all styles in a party, like dark psy at night, good morning psy in the morning time, some kind of progressive psytrance in the afternoon and so on.

Let's just give time to time and see how things take their way.           www.myspace.com/djmorus
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