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frisbeehead
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Posted : Jul 9, 2016 12:53
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Yes, it's working really good now. It's been a long way since 8's debut and they did an impressive job ironing out the bugs and sorting out some minor interface issues.
I also like Retrologue a lot, and it's a nice thing that it's a lightweight machine that does deliver a credible analogue sound and one you can use vst expression with. I really like the simple interface of it. Same deal with PadShop, I've already bought the Pro version (moments after getting Cubase, actually) and it's a very simple affair to use it for granular based effects while it also allows for more complexity with the real nice matrix it's got.
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PoM
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Posted : Aug 25, 2016 19:00
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funny that it s always the same story with steinberg ,they take the customers for beta testers 
once they ironed out the major bugs, they move to the next version to introce more of them haha |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Sep 2, 2016 05:33
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On 2016-08-25 19:00, PoM wrote:
funny that it s always the same story with steinberg ,they take the customers for beta testers
once they ironed out the major bugs, they move to the next version to introce more of them haha
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+ there's enough of us getting drunk and pressing the buy button out of impulse, despite knowing it's like that |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 22, 2016 20:44
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Loks like Cubase 9 will come out soon. I heard at the end of year. I hope they bring some new nice synth, would be dope a physical modeling one. I heard that the features are all closed they just optimize it. Unfortunately its all secret what features or plug ins come. For now there is only room for pure speculation.
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 23, 2016 00:30
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Does anyone know a fast workflow solution to raise only one side of a stereo file in Cubase?
A scenario that happens here occasionaly: I recorded a Virus line onto Cubase and like that but after looking into the statisctics I see one side is 2dB quiter than it should be.
I didn't checked my input levels on the soundcard precisly.
It's not that dramatic since its just 16 bars but would love to make it as it should be.
I know a very fast and elegant way of correcting such issues in Renoise, but am a bit lazy to move out of Cubase.
I would like to use normalize function on my left side and raise it by 2 dB. It looks like it's really not possible to edit just one side of a stereo file in Cubase but I hope somebody knows better.
I know I could export in double mono or split stereo and such but that's all too much time consuming.
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vipal
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Posted : Sep 23, 2016 19:10
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Sep 23, 2016 19:46
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On 2016-09-23 00:30, TimeTraveller wrote:
Does anyone know a fast workflow solution to raise only one side of a stereo file in Cubase?
A scenario that happens here occasionaly: I recorded a Virus line onto Cubase and like that but after looking into the statisctics I see one side is 2dB quiter than it should be.
I didn't checked my input levels on the soundcard precisly.
It's not that dramatic since its just 16 bars but would love to make it as it should be.
I know a very fast and elegant way of correcting such issues in Renoise, but am a bit lazy to move out of Cubase.
I would like to use normalize function on my left side and raise it by 2 dB. It looks like it's really not possible to edit just one side of a stereo file in Cubase but I hope somebody knows better.
I know I could export in double mono or split stereo and such but that's all too much time consuming.
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You can always bounce a split version (one file per side) and normalize those.
Or use the plug-in process with something that gives you a chance to pan + some meters and you'd be good to go. |
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Posted : Sep 27, 2016 09:55
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I think the fastest way to fix it, if u dont want to split channels, etc. would be to either:
pan
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insert a FabFilter Pro-Q2 and add a +2dB shelf to the side that needs a boost  |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Sep 28, 2016 14:53
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^not bad. The mid/side EQ solution is a bit cumbersome, in that it also changes the audio, it's not absolutely transparent. But if he just wants to make sure that the two channels are balanced, then he just needs to make sure that each channels max peak is the same.
in which case, rendering the audio's two channels in separate is really quick (if you happen to have a keyboard shortcut for this, which most people have anyway). then if you're like me, there's one for normalizing (N in my case), then you can select the two channels, adjust the gain by hand or by typing the value of choice (on the toolbar), and you're done.
Takes seconds to do. |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 28, 2016 21:37
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thanks guys. Right about now, I have such problems like never before. Windows made some own actions, dunno why, after some updated that I never wanted (since I have brand new Windows 10 so dont understand anyways why it decided to boot something for houres without asking me anything) I am not anymore allowed to use neither cubase nor renoise. Dunno why, I have no sound anywhere, although all sound settings are correct. Not in any browser, no youtube nothing.
I even see signal in the Windows digital sound mixer, when Youtube is playing, but there is no sound coming outta my speakers, even no signal on my analog mixer. Nothing.
Strange as fuck.
I almost give up and probably save some money to buy in a longer while an expensive Mac again. Than I probably don't sell that 1 year PC but throw him straight away out of my window from the 2nd floor.
Ok that could make me problems with neighbours so probably not really.
Strange. I'm somehow a bit down now. Sorry for offtopic. I guess I would go for simple pan if I had any chance to. The other methods are also cool.
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Sep 28, 2016 22:00
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I'm probably not the best guy to ask, since I'm surfing the mac waters alone for some years now.
But with every major OS release, there's some problems that may occur - and more often then not, they do.
It seems that there's something wrong with either your driver or some other settings related to sound. The only tip I can think off, at this point, due to me not being familiar with Windows 10 (even though I've used it, sparingly) is to find and turn of the automatic updates.
Then go through your settings, or even search for similar problem online and take it from there. I'm pretty sure that, no matter how bad it seems, there must be a solution for this. I know plenty of people who are producing daily on windows 10 rigs, even though I've word from one that went back to 7.
Myself, I went back to Yosemite after trying El Capitan. These days with major OS releases every year it's really starting to get a bit messy. So much so, that someone ought to make a big case about it. It's really more annoying then anything else. I mean, this new one from Apple, for example, no matter how extraordinary this new updated version of good old Siri might be, it seems like that's pretty much all that they're doing to it, besides a slight update in the looks of some of their apps, like Maps. They hardly touch anything major, under-the-hood, or do something revolutionary to the interface any more. It's really just about integrating stuff from iOS back into the mac.
But surely enough, there's the now routinely warning from Steinberg during the beta stage. And some updates will surely follow.
I'm not quite sure how things are going with Windows. I know I've read somewhere that windows 10 is the last version. But we should really read, here, last name. Because they're also implementing updates akin to those made by Apple, but they're just keeping the name as is. Chances are you might have updated to the latest Windows and ran into trouble with either your drivers or other issues that will probably have to be solved before everything becomes stable again. If you have some kind of system backup from a prior stage, I'd avise you to use that and restore the computer back to the last sane moment it ever knew - which to Mckenna would be our common pre-historic times, with communal taking of mushrooms and orgies under the moon; anyway, don't know if the good old system restore still works, that one has saved the day for me a couple times back in the day.
Otherwise, it's easier to backup the projects (if you haven't already) and go for a clean format. Wasting time with such oddities is not desirable to anyone 
Cheers and cheer up m8! Tell me if you need anything! |
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vipal
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Posted : Oct 5, 2016 17:31
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i also had recently that windows, without asking, during a break, upgraded my 7 to 10. i could roll it back. thank you microsoft, what an attitude of that company. i for sure will try to never buy anything from them.
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Oct 6, 2016 20:09
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The problem is that the situation, these days, isn't that much different on the mac.
Or even in iOS, my iPhone keeps on "reminding" me to install iOS 10. It goes well beyond what could be considered reasonable, they've added some menu superimposed on the normal interface, and there's only the option to either install or delay, there's no option for actually refusing to install the update - the absence of which is mind blowing.
It doesn't just seem like they're trying to trick us into jumping to the next shinny version of their software, they really are doing just that.
Maybe they take pride in being able to say that users have adopted new versions of their operating systems faster then the competition - or maybe there's more to it then this "nobel" goal. The truth is, more and more, people are being treated into license agreements that are made so long and complicated so as to leave everyone out except, perhaps, for people studying law; we're being led to mistakingly accept updates without thinking, with ever more clever integrated into the interface ways which sort of push you into it. Or if that isn't enough, if you only leave the standard options on, like automatic downloads, you may very well wake up with a new OS installed.
Goes without saying, that each new version of an OS comes with its own share of problems.
The situation looks really bad. I mean, how come is it a good thing to update operating systems each and every year? It just renders everything useless. All developers have to issue their own updates. And we use a big plethora of them from third parties, whose capacity for employing resources on this now anual tasks varies greatly, from big companies like Native Instruments, to almost personal endeavors like many many others. What this means is, the major tech companies in the world, despite out sourcing their production to the third world, not paying their taxes, pursuing novelty to the point it gets silly, with this now traditional anual updates that don't do much else then incorporate smart phone features into the desktop environment, while not only forgetting about their pro consumer base, but actually making things hard for them.
Because let's face it. If you buy some new mac now (well, it's not exactly new as well, is it? ahem) it would come with the latest OS installed. This probably means you wouldn't be able to run Cubase properly on it. And even if you could, you'd have to wait months or more to allow all the developers you depend on for your plug-in collection to come to terms with this architectural chances that, by the way, don't really add anything major, let alone useful for anything creative that's ever done on a computer.
Ever since windows 7 on the pc, and snow leopard on the mac, there hasn't been an operative system in either platform that's good for musicians and other multimedia tasks that involve real time processing. Or, in other words, it's like they've never heard of the importance of low latency in an operative system and would rather go in a battle about who's got the funniest digital assistant while turning their backs on the complaints of their most serious user base and the demands of some of the biggest industries there are that require computers to go about their business.
Apple's case, I think, is even worse then windows. Because there's been several iterations of mac OS X after snow leopard and while some of them are usable (a.i. mavericks and yosemite), most of them, including El Capitan are an insult to anyone who's invested something into music making.
There's some rumors around that say that they've fixed this weird behavior in Sierra, but I feel it's a bit to soon to comment on that myself - and surely ain't doing no update until I get confirmation from many sources saying it's really safe to surf those waters. Because, frankly, I feel like they're playing with us for far to long. They're not helping anything get better. They're having a huge negative impact on the other developers as well, forcing them to invest, time, energy and resources on the, allow me, seemingly stupid task of coming to terms with OS changes that, despite not having anything to do with music or anything audio related, do have a tendency to dismantle that world. Be it graphics problems, a sluggish interface, cpu spikes, audio drop outs, so forth and so on.
Now we're in due for some more headphone removing on the mac side. But this time, there's not even a proper standard to replace it with. It's just pure stupidity, or as they put it themselves, courage. Courage to dismantle their own hard earned user base for chasing after some frivolous idea of interactive menus and AI integrated into our apps - which isn't the greatest thing for our privacy too. But musicians were part of their costumer base, and for good reasons: easier to maintain, less prone to get viruses and mallware, easier to configure and more stable.
Nowadays, it seems like there's no good platform anywhere you look. (Sorry for huge rant). Cheers |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Oct 11, 2016 15:02
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I really tried everything, even deleted the updates step by step back and what not. Checked drivers etc. It seems as if everything is ok.
Using a 32" screen for my PC I gonna buy a 13" mac next week. I lost lots of money for buying WIndows PC and parts I can only use with PC. That makes me really down since I need the money so bad now for other things but not beeing able to produce music makes me almost sick.
Tbh I don't know anyone with such problems that I have on PC but I read similar things on Cubase Forum.
Quoted admin on advanced Cubase Users group (FB) related to same problem from someone else: "It is a constant "battle" between Steinberg and Microsoft when it comes to recent OS updates (especially W10" ..etc bla bla
I'm sure there must be a solution but I didn'T find any after long time and I don't have that much time to sit for hundred on houres looking for the right puzzle part in the microcomsos of this crappy OS. I tried all I can think of without any improvement. The most confusing thing is that still there is a signal on the digital Mixer but not on the analog on my table although the drivers are installed.
I never had any real problems with Mac that why I really miss this system. Also I see your points frisbeehead, and yeah best thing is to stop that automating updates. Still I never had real problems on mac.
I still have no sound here. Today I tried again for houres. :/
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Oct 12, 2016 22:44
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in your position I would format it without blinking an eye. maybe would go back to windows 7, so as to avoid wasting your investment in material that's pc only, like you mentioned.
the thing is, on the mac side, I'd definitely avoid using the latest version, since it's really prone to give you a headache and, even if the power of current hardware sort of makes up for it, you can really tell that the system underperforms compared to a less problematic OS.
this isn't even a conspiracy, lately I've been seeing more and more people coming forward and talking about it, even an ex (or current, not sure) MacWorld writer has written a very interesting article on it:
http://cdm.link/2016/09/apples-relationship-pro-music-needs-mending/
but yeah, I can see how not being able to make music does suck badly. the mac 13 will help you get through it, but I wouldn't give up on the new windows base pc so quickly man. after a clean format and new installation, there's no reason for it not to work properly. if this doesn't solve it, then the probably certainly lies elsewhere, not in the software domain. but from your description, I doubt it. there must be something weird with some configuration, or some windows 10 incompatibility with the sound card or mixer (not sure how you have it set up, but one of those things).
I know that there's been problems with, for example, UR interfaces from Steinberg. I know it 'cause of the news feed on their website, which I sometimes check for Cubase related stuff. So maybe this is to be expected. I know that the new updates on either side, pc or mac, have caused a lot of stuff to brake. And most developers seem to be struggling with the ever faster pace of major OS versions - and perhaps not so optimistically, they're getting tired of it to the point they'll become progressively more vocal about it too.
Myself, I'm sick of it. It's like silicon valley doesn't have the slightest memory of where this all revolution burst from and it's oldest ideals. After all, they're not much different from even the psytrance scene, it was very idealistic and had a clear sense of purpose. One of them just so happens to be empowering human creativity, not chasing after the unrealistic goals made priorities by their share holders, but actually helping ordinary people do extraordinary things. This is what's at stake here, because musicians are a big side of that creative sandwich when it comes to computers. Everyone profits from them. I mean, EVERYONE of the big tech companies does this. Yet they spit on our plate (and I mean creatives) all the freaking time and now to the point they compromise system reliability.
Updates are supposed to make things better, not worse. Good programming should be about achieving more performance with the same or even less resources - aka efficiency. Adding more eye catching functions does not equate to making progress. They're priorities are wrong. We don't need a smart assistant if that means that our plug-ins stop working and we have to wait for updates from all the people involved in this business. We couldn't care any less about how much of our smart phones made it into our desktop computers if that means that, somehow, we don't have access to our beloved DAW or that it stops functioning properly.
p.s. format that thing and enjoy the new computer. music making is much needed for maintaining good balance between good and bad in this universe.
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