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Lord Deo
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Posted : Jul 30, 2010 16:42
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On 2010-07-30 13:18, Login wrote:
if you dont have an state of the art soundsystem witnout weak points, its really worthless to play anything above 16 bit wav.
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yup, that and 10000 RPM or solid state hard drive. Most laptops have only 5200 RPM drives, so putting constant pressure to stream 24/96 wavs - that's too much risking during live sets - if you ask me.
and what's the point anyway? the difference is only noticeable in consumer sound-systems or in studio, not at the venue installations where everything is just too loud to notice little nuances of a sound. it's not like people are going to notice and judge how bright your hi-hats are, and what sort of phaser you've added to them...
doing production in 24 bit is entire different case and i am all up for it. but DJing with 24 bit wavs (not internal 24 bit processing) i simply no see point in that - except well driving my laptop to grave at accelerated pace.
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Jul 30, 2010 20:36
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Why Dj on a laptop? Your DAT close to it, just write music and get called an ARTIST 
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Lord Deo
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Posted : Jul 30, 2010 21:00
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On 2010-07-30 20:36, BrainLizzard wrote:
Why Dj on a laptop? Your DAT close to it, just write music and get called an ARTIST
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being a DJ already implies being an artist. it all comes down to skill level and techniques. and why DJ on a lappy? well instead of carrying at least seven full crates of vinyl records to a gig (as i have done back in a day), all i have to take now - is lappy, four control vinyls, 2 control CD's (just in case), external backup harddrive and serato interface... basically i get to perform on a medium i love the most (vinyl) and carry my entire music library with me - all in a light backpack...
i apologize if i sounded as if i am endorsing serato.
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Login
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Posted : Jul 30, 2010 21:15
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On 2010-07-30 20:36, BrainLizzard wrote:
Why Dj on a laptop? Your DAT close to it, just write music and get called an ARTIST
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why if I dont care?
one of the biggest reasons the psy scene fails is the lack of good dj's, all is about boring live acts playing prerecrded sessions, over and over gain.
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willsanquil
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Posted : Jul 30, 2010 22:15
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Jul 30, 2010 22:16
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On 2010-07-30 21:00, Lord Deo wrote:
i apologize if i sounded as if i am endorsing serato.
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No worries for sounding like an endorsement for serto, me respectz itz idea... Some feel it puts an intellectual handicap dealing in feelin the dance step...
The roll of a Dj? A few terms included channels of high energy, inspiration into creativity, as a service provider of the Goa dance... very secure with self in skill department without laptop...
DN-S3700, fits into a backpack as well, and, a 16gig thumb-drive on a key chain works, if light backpack is a requirement, half a hand full of Cd's if ya want... If meez need more decks or teck gear, just use what's on site...
Fully willing to crossover to laptops if anything evolutionary comes from it as a dj skill...
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willsanquil
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Posted : Jul 30, 2010 22:18
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Well, no. I tried offering 24-bit WAVs a little while ago but no one seemed interested and it was a lot of extra work so I canned the initiative.
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oh! Lol I was just going through my ekto downloads and was trying to find out the bitrate but couldn't...so hopped on a random ekto release and saw a link for 24 bit WAV, an assumed all the WAVs were 24 bit.
Interesting - doesn't seem like it really matters anyways though, as you've pointed out.
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Lord Deo
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Posted : Jul 30, 2010 22:50
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DN-S3700, fits into a backpack as well, and, a 16gig thumb-drive on a key chain works, if light backpack is a requirement, half a hand full of Cd's if ya want... If meez need more decks or teck gear, just use what's on site... |
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no offense but i'll need more than one 16gig thumbdrive (about 150 of them to be precise and at least 10 usb connectors). and a "light backpack" is not a requirement, but rather a point of comfort i was implying to... nowadays there is no need to put yourself through tiresome physical workout routine by carrying tones of records just to prove that you or anyone's a dj.
so we are on the same page: maybe some dj's got used to playing one hour gig, with just handful of CD's or 16gig thumbdrive. whatever - to each its own, but i did few residencies (all night long regular gigs) where handful of anything or 16 gigs of thumbs wouldn't and won't just cut.
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that be your choice. but check youtube vids, perhaps digital DJ-ing isn't challenging enough for you...
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Jul 30, 2010 23:21
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On 2010-07-30 22:50, Lord Deo wrote:
no offense but i'll need more than one 16gig thumbdrive (about 150 of them to be precise and at least 10 usb connectors).
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Why so much music? How long is a standard Dj set where your from?
No offense but i rather have someone who is a laptop dj help than seek videos on my own, i'm just askin, can you help or not? I'm neew around here, could use more emotion for direction about a dj and software dj...Yes, i'm aware there is a difference in tools, i can see dat without asking anything..
Yes!!! We are on the same page, true dAT... I was feeling more like, maybe our pages high octave's in Seas have overshadowed something, like, create a new definition DAT is excepted per se someone who has never heard of psytrance.. The rolls of a Dj, as in terms, isn't lining up.. We take on the the StaNdardS terms then, well, you know..
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Jul 30, 2010 23:49
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On 2010-07-30 21:15, Login wrote:
why if I dont care?
one of the biggest reasons the psy scene fails is the lack of good dj's, all is about boring live acts playing prerecrded sessions, over and over gain.
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What Login said +1 well said...
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On 2010-07-23 21:33:27, The Mirror That Smokes wrote:
The boring live acts Dat cheat the signature of an artist. It's not in what they do but in how intense ThEiR motivation is to manifest the extraordinary yet persuasive starving artist speech. sure many get paid who have real jobs but it also rEPreSENts the fear of FINAnCIAl aNd sup.press'es OUR talents in the rolls of, changing the litter box.
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Lord Deo
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Posted : Jul 30, 2010 23:52
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because, you'll never know what might come in handy...
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standard dj set here - is just the same as anywhere else. but when you're resident dj - you'll go all night long...
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No offense but i rather have someone who is a laptop dj help than seek videos on my own, i'm just askin, can you help or not?
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sure, i'll gladly help. send me a PM or ask what you want to know, and i'll do my best..
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Jul 31, 2010 00:23
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On 2010-07-30 23:52, Lord Deo wrote:
sure, i'll gladly help. send me a PM or ask what you want to know, and i'll do my best..
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Thank you so much already, it's good to know that peeps as yourself and Login have good communication from the heart with the musical leggos 4 mix of art and fun, wifs only 1ne brick to to share!
Much LOVE and hope to see you in real time so we can hugzz one another, cheers...
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zafer
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Posted : Jul 31, 2010 00:49
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some things will never change: this endless and in my opinion pointless discussion of cdj vs software, and actually why vs? is it a race a fight or whatsoever? enjoy: your time mixing, your time dancing, all the rest is meaningless
sorry for posting such a sterile and almost useless post , nothing more than a provocation ;-)
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Jul 31, 2010 01:27
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On 2010-07-31 00:49, zafer wrote:
sorry for posting such a sterile and almost useless post , nothing more than a provocation ;-)
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Sir, get back yo,ur'ins change backz, if you would? Sorry for what? Not following what you mean...
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zafer
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Posted : Jul 31, 2010 02:28
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Sir, get back yo,ur'ins change backz, if you would? Sorry for what? Not following what you mean...
what does that mean in english please ?
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