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Babylonia B-FEST Sxoli Kalwn Texnwn 27-28-29-30-31 May

sotokkan
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Posted : May 12, 2009 19:40:15
27-31 May
Babylonia Anti Authoritarian FREE Festival
@ Sxoli Kalwn Texnwn, Peiraiws 256

With live concerts and workshops/meetings

see: http://babyloniafest.blogspot.com/
and: www.babylonia.gr

Saturday 30 May
MAX Lanfraconi (Etnicanet-Pleiadians)
TEO (Oktava Rec.)
Iraklis Mindphaser (Nat.High)

Sunday 31 May
Tigran (Psyacoustics)
Confo (Psyacoustics)
Looney (Digitalies Rec.)
Sotokkan (Sub+Dub)
Dark Elf (Disco Valley / HSS)
Atomas
Nagual Boing V Boing

FREE Entrance !!!

For more about lineup, Dub and Rock, Drum N Bass, Dubstep,
please see the Blogspot

Jedi_knight
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Posted : May 12, 2009 20:48
Excellent !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fantastic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only question is : Who's gonna work on Monday ???           ---RealPsyLifeForRealPsyPeople---
FULL FACE
Full Face

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Posted : May 12, 2009 22:41
this is not the only question,
i have another question but i'll write in half english half greek because my english are shit!!
i don't have any problems with noone from the line up isa isa that some of the artists are my friends so synexizo
in my mind anti authoritarian and anarchist events must have xaraktira anti-eboreymatiko that means music,spirit,ideas,tropos diakinisis music, and many many more must be into these ideas etc...
i was many years into anarcho punk scene , i was made music with diy spirit but when efaga to kolima with electronic music , theorisa good to stop the parallel music projects so stopped the band and begun to make psy.
for me its not a good idea one week to play for free in anarchist parties or squatts and the next week to play for 20-30 euros entrance...
that's why i stopped the most important and free thing that i made in my life and this is the punk band.
for all these things that i say for some friends that play into this antieksusiastiko event put also myself because i'm also making parties in corfu town with 10-20 e for entrance so i cannot play for both styles or ideas and dialeksa this one that i like now...
i don't know who organize this event but it likes me like ligo ap'ola , all good xorane or something like that.
for me an antieksuiastiko event has ksekathari stasi k logiki apenanti stin kyriarxi praktiki tou eboreymatos k tou theamatos....
again this is something that i feel for every anarchist ekdilosi and xaraktira and this is not something bad for all friends that are in the line up.
sorry for the tixon anastatosi...

all the best FOR ALL!!!


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Jedi_knight
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Posted : May 13, 2009 13:51
@Full Face

The only dj who we can say that he is commercial is MAX but his is the only guest!

All the other djs are locals and very good ones!

So as about the music this is not a commercial (eboreymatiko...) festival.
How can you say that?

Also that is free proves that is unmarketable (anti-eboreymatiko ) !

Sorry but i can't understand your point of view...
          ---RealPsyLifeForRealPsyPeople---
DR SAMMY
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Posted : May 13, 2009 16:06
[quote]
On 2009-05-13 13:51, Jedi_knight wrote:
@Full Face

The only dj who we can say that he is commercial is MAX but his is the only guest!

All the other djs are locals and very good ones!

So as about the music this is not a commercial (eboreymatiko...) festival.
How can you say that?

Also that is free proves that is unmarketable (anti-eboreymatiko ) !

Sorry but i can't understand your point of view... :nixweiss:


[/quote]
I think that full face has a point of view and he is correct about it...

Max is not play for free!!!!!
am sure he is gonna take he money for the party.. so.. why does this party happend?? they are working to pay Max?? or the hole income is for their reasons??
Are the rest djs payed?? (Tha plirwthoune Aytoi? ) h paizoun tzampa??)))

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LGI


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Posted : May 14, 2009 17:03
Please start writing a more user frendly locations like "near Thessaloniki" or something... I am used to find spots in the forests with no directions, but with the names you gave (i am talking about most of the events that i've seen here, who are not in Athens/Thessaloniki/Larisa) i can't even find it with viemicheline!
errorhead

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Posted : May 14, 2009 23:53
Quote:

On 2009-05-12 22:41, FULL FACE wrote:

for me its not a good idea one week to play for free in anarchist parties or squatts and the next week to play for 20-30 euros entrance...




Name and shame or better not talk
ozparties2009

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Posted : May 15, 2009 02:32
so....when we pay...we say is too much....
when is free, we say why is free?
i cant understand some people in this forum...

full suport to the movement, festival and party night!
macdeath
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Posted : May 15, 2009 03:48
FullFace, with all the respect, what exactly is the anarchopunk scene? Anarchy is a political term, with theoretical and "practical" aspects. Punk is a music style which also created a subculture. These two are related but they are not joined together. I mean that it's not necessary for a punk fan to be anarchist and vice versa. Don't confuse these things.

Babylwnia is a newspaper from A.K. so I guess these are the organizers. I don't think that is bad the fact that Max is playing there, even if he got paid. Some people will get interest to learn some things about anarchist's activities and stuff. I don't believe that most of the people who will go to listen Max will get out of the event with new political beliefs. But I think is good to attract people with such actions (events) to preview them your states, ideas and activities.

Even I don't like AK, I think that this is a great idea to do such an event with so many styles and high quality artists.           Ableton Live
d1m1tr1
Dark Elf

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Posted : May 15, 2009 11:14
@ LGI
in Athens, Peiraios Street !!! (a major one)

Sxoli Kalwn Texnwn is the School of Arts !

C u there
andonis
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Posted : May 16, 2009 12:15
In general I also don't think that the line up should necessarily consist only of artists who do not play for money elsewhere. But in such a circumstance (a free non-profit festival) I think that all participants should play for free other than their travel, accomodation and food and drink expences. If anyone is getting payed serious money just to perform e.g. Aggelakas or Max which I think and hope is not the case, it would be much better to have a line up consisting of people who would like to support the event for what it is than having big commercial names payed just to draw crowds. It is always a bad idea to separate the means from the end, i.e. the way you try to achieve something with what you want to achieve.

I will attend this anyway if I am in Athens as it does look good party-wise and I'm curious of seing the whole situation.
FULL FACE
Full Face

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Posted : May 17, 2009 16:15
Quote:

On 2009-05-13 13:51, Jedi_knight wrote:
@Full Face

The only dj who we can say that he is commercial is MAX but his is the only guest!

All the other djs are locals and very good ones!

So as about the music this is not a commercial (eboreymatiko...) festival.
How can you say that?

Also that is free proves that is unmarketable (anti-eboreymatiko ) !

Sorry but i can't understand your point of view...






so begin with my poor english to tell again my thoughts...
for me commercial artist is every artist that is working with the orous of eborio and theama and in our case commercial is when i make cd's sell them with some distro offices with profit (i don't mind if the profit is big or small ftanei if there is profit ends all!), when playing with entrance, when play in places with security, when play with sponsors etc etc ,
so for me all the line up is commercial and also i'm a commercial and if commercial is not hearing well in our hears everyone of us that make and diakinei music like these rules are all into another big story and of course we don't have kamia sxesi with the ideas of anarchy or diy music etc.

for me the festival or better the line up of the fest and of course den anaferome only in the psy line up is kara eboreymatiko for the reasons that i'm already wrote before.
to an someone is working with the rules of eboriou den to kathorizei to profit that he takes if for example max is paying for each party 1000euros or me that i'm playing for 100euro , and of course if max selling thousands cd's or me that selling 100 pieces we're in the same way of working , and of course in the rules of eboriou or capitalism kapioi tha ta "katafernoun" better than the others heheh...

also i didn't say that the locals dj's are not good , they are really good artists and as i told before many of them are friends.
and i told another time that my problem is with the guys that makes and organize such events in the name of anarchy or antieksusiastes ekdiloseis.

and of course to gegonos that the event is a free event den to katatasei in one antieboreytmatiko or antieksusiastiko event.
most of the state's events are free , also the festivals of kke are free hehe or many many events of dimon are free so the free events are a nice move but not kanei k ayta k antieboreymatika or or....

once again i tell that all these are my opinion and den exo skopo to katakrino kanenan artist!
for me every anarchist music event must be in the diy (do it yourself) spirit and only this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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FULL FACE
Full Face

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Posted : May 17, 2009 16:22
Quote:

On 2009-05-14 23:53, errorhead wrote:
Quote:

On 2009-05-12 22:41, FULL FACE wrote:

for me its not a good idea one week to play for free in anarchist parties or squatts and the next week to play for 20-30 euros entrance...




Name and shame or better not talk




file errorhead you didn't understand well..
or my shit english maybe ftaine for this

i told that for me as artist with some anisixies is not good for example to play in a anarchist festival in one week and in the next week to play for a party with sponsors,bravous and entrance.
sigruete re si to ena me to allo , and its not fair to work like this...
and as i tell thousands of times the 100% of this shit situation ofeilete in the organizators...

and of course i'm really and very ksekatharos sto who is working like eboreymatikous orous or not, de xreiazete our society roufianous or katadotes xaxa we're full of them!
i'm for sure one and the first that is working like this with parties, sponsors, entrances etc sou ftanei ayto?
and because i'm working like this and i know this i'm not waiting to book me for playing in some anarchists events or parties in squatts my friends from these teams, and its really good one and timio...           v/a \"Keep it Surreal\" is OUT NOW from Pixan Recordings!

Full Face: In every place is OUT NOW from Pixan Recordings!
FULL FACE
Full Face

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Posted : May 17, 2009 16:31
Quote:

On 2009-05-15 03:48, macdeath wrote:
FullFace, with all the respect, what exactly is the anarchopunk scene? Anarchy is a political term, with theoretical and "practical" aspects. Punk is a music style which also created a subculture. These two are related but they are not joined together. I mean that it's not necessary for a punk fan to be anarchist and vice versa. Don't confuse these things.

Babylwnia is a newspaper from A.K. so I guess these are the organizers. I don't think that is bad the fact that Max is playing there, even if he got paid. Some people will get interest to learn some things about anarchist's activities and stuff. I don't believe that most of the people who will go to listen Max will get out of the event with new political beliefs. But I think is good to attract people with such actions (events) to preview them your states, ideas and activities.

Even I don't like AK, I think that this is a great idea to do such an event with so many styles and high quality artists.





Anarchopunk is a big really big part of the diy punk scene in the world. bands like oi polloi, active minds, nausea, petrograd and thousands of these kind of bands are working like this and have a big "success"
anarchopunk is the punk that has many relations with political situation or anarchist ideas and way of life , simetexoun in every kind of political events make music with the diy spirit etc etc...

about a.k and max etc i'm already told my opinion.
the word anarxia is full pareksigimeni , eveyone of us can make the biggest malakia and after writes under an (A)lfadi and everything is well hehe...
my problem is that this event with max etc etc den exei kamia ma kamia sxesi with the ideas of anarchism...

i don't know if some of you know a band named wxra speiroxaith.
for me these guys working 100% in the way that i have in my mind gia to pos einai one anarchist event or way of thinking into the music reality etc..
and of course these friends and everything that stinoun or exoun stisei den exei nothing to do with "antieksusiastiki" salata tis a.k
again gia apofigi pareksigiseon i'm listening to max , i really like the parties of the local guys , also i'm listening to aggelakas or other guys that playing there but this is not antieksusiastiko...

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FULL FACE
Full Face

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Posted : May 17, 2009 16:37
and of course den to sizito if for example max or someone else tha parei esto and 1 euro from this , i katastasi is for klamata...
          v/a \"Keep it Surreal\" is OUT NOW from Pixan Recordings!

Full Face: In every place is OUT NOW from Pixan Recordings!
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