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astral_cyborg
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Posted : Jun 1, 2009 16:33
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Nice music on Saturday night / Sunday morning.
Thank you for the good vibes.
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Void Network
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Posted : Jun 1, 2009 16:38
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Void Network
(Theory,Utopia,Empathy,Ephemeral Arts)
http://voidnetwork.blogspot.com
We would like to thank the Antiauthoritarian Movement and all other political and cultural groups, artists, cultural activists,thinkers, lecturers, film makers, that took care of the wonderfull B-Festival
We have to thank also,
all these 35000 people that participated in the 5 days of B-Festival...
We believe that the blending between many different perspectives of anarchism, antiauthoritarianism and freedom cultures helped all of us to open our minds and learn one from each other something...
The arising of personal critical mind comes when you can walk from stage to stage, from lecture to lecture, from bookshop to bookshop, from kiosk to kiosk and each place, each event, each stage has something to give you, some new direction, new understanding, new knowledge...
(Next year we would like to try spend more time at the lectures...it was very interesting and relaxing space and time as also the cinema hall had some very difficult to find films)
As many thousands of people that never had the experience of psychedelic trance sound now they are in love with it, in the same way many ravers learned a lot of things from the atmosphere and the themes of an antiauthoritarian festival
...A festival without high price ticket, security companies, business vibe, mafia styles and apolitik stupidity...
All these ravers that used to pay high price tickets and thinking that:
<we have to care only about the music and trance has nothing to do about the politics>,
now they know for sure that anarchism is not politics, is a way of co-existance with the others,
and trance is not a music style,
is a cultural movement
with many things to say also about
human freedom and human understanding
(as also about ecology, hedonism, fight against neo-nazi, fight against homophobia, racism, sexism, fighting for freedom of nature, freedom of public space, free camping e.t.c., e.t.c....in all these 20 years of existing of electronic rave dance culture)
Also everybody knows now that the Free Festival Undergound Movement has the power to offer for free and share with all young people of this city the best nights of our life, moments and experiences that not existing in any trance-businesman club bullshit party!
These about the "politics"....
Also we have to make simple something...
All these people that they say :
<trance has nothing to do with politics>
they have a political identity behind this argument, even if they will never admit it. They have the political identity of Capitalistic NeoLiberalism
(money,easy going fun, work, more hard work, payed amusements, political apathy, individualism, obey, pay, buy, have fun, enjoy your life, work to have money to spend your money having good times, and then you die!...)
For all people interested thinking a little bit further about undergound culture (upogeia koultoura, antikoultoura, antagonistiki koultoura):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterculture
as also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Underground_culture
Please try to avoid stupidity, read, care, smile, travel, dance and lets have the best summer of our life...
We hope you enjoyed our 2 days / 20 hours non stop multi media visual show in B-Fest main stage...We did our best efforts for a mind exploding social aware psychedelic show.
We will see each other again very soon
Keep Your Mind Open
Void Network
(Theory,Utopia,Empathy,Ephemeral Art)
http://voidnetwork.blogspot.com
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http://voidmirror.blogspot.com
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videos from events and Void Art:
http://www.youtube.com/voidnetwork |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jun 1, 2009 16:50
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On 2009-06-01 16:38, Void Network wrote:
Also we have to make simple something...
All these people that they say :
<trance has nothing to do with politics>
they have a political identity behind this argument, even if they will never admit it. They have the political identity of Capitalistic NeoLiberalism
(money,easy going fun, work, more hard work, payed amusements, political apathy, individualism, obey, pay, buy, have fun, enjoy your life, work to have money to spend your money having good times, and then you die!...)
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Please be kind enough to tell me more things about my self that I don't already know.
Feel free to play down any voice that questions what you do, but it does not change the fact that you are quick to discern my reasons for not playing along, by simply assuming you know what I am like.
One thing is for sure mate, you are not different than any political organisation, you are all head deep into the same big pile of shit, as any other political organisation that is comfortable with people being willingless sheep, the minute we can think for our selves, there is no need for goverments and anti-autoritarian/anarchist movements, alike.
Peace out.
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donald
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Posted : Jun 1, 2009 17:35
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friend discohooligan one question..
why bother you so much the ppl that can do,fell,enjoy,think,live thinks that you cant?
its obvious that you prefer pussys, ket or koke and muscles for your life...you definetly have that right
but its tottaly diferent think to make a big generilazation for all the movements that its against this way of living...
peace in
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jun 1, 2009 17:47
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friend discohooligan one question..
why bother you so much the ppl that can do,fell,enjoy,think,live thinks that you cant? |
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Am I that bothered Donald? I went to the party and enjoyed my self listening to Max play. Obviously I am not bothered enough to avoid going to the party, or coming on here to say that I enjoyed it. So even though its clear that I did like the gig and that the only downside was the banners that I saw, but once again, that did not stop me from saying that the music, the backyard, the party, was great.
The argument is on the political agenda behind this kind of activity...something that is very apparent in Greece.
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its obvious that you prefer pussys, ket or koke and muscles for your life...you definetly have that right |
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 Is it that obvious? Please be kind enough to tell me what gave me away? and what is it? pussy or muscles that I prefer? Its a bit of an oxymoron 
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but its tottaly diferent think to make a big generilazation for all the movements that its against this way of living...
peace in
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I am against this way of living as well mate. I await the vicious circle of capitalism to end. I await for the monetary system to collapse into its own foundations. Then wars will follow, many of us will die, but its inevitable and necessary if we want to end this era of modern slavery.
Peace out.
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donald
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Posted : Jun 1, 2009 18:22
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so, sorry but i dont understand... what the bunners writing that botheres you so much ?
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jun 1, 2009 18:40
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other_reality
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Posted : Jun 1, 2009 18:42
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Since we're all losing the point, (after all, we are all free to make our personal choices, whether its about politics, way of life and individual preferences concerning our amusement or artistic activities in general) I think that your main argument is about involving a trance event within a "political" festival. I acknowledge your restraints, and I really do get your point (e.g imagine PASOK bringing Frank E at syntagma LOL) , but I think that we've all gone a bit too far and finally get lost within words.
This event was antiauthoritarian, and even if you think that some political party was behind this, the fact is that this movement is in general opposed to all of them. You could also describe it as a freedom fest.
I am really happy to see trance finally entering such festivals in Greece, and even though I enjoy Poulikakos, Pilali, Logarides and the rest of the "usual suspects" behind such events, it was nice to see a trance act. This made more people aware of the music, and maybe the people that stay close to this music a bit more satisfied.
It is not worth the trouble to chase ghosts behind all of this, it was just an enjoyable trance night, in a good setting (not meaning the "political" only aspect of it, but the sense of freedom, or the sense of participating in a decent free event, and finally the sense that the fest and the music coplimented each other)
As for the general relation of trance with the underground and politics, this is a huge topic, and demands serious conversation. Psychedelic music and art in general has been infuential through time, from the sixties up to our modern times, with time-lasting messages about freedom, independence and peace. The true question is whether modern psychedelic art (and trance) is faithful to the original concept or has it been commercialised and devoured by the beasts of vanity and greed...
Bring yourselves into the light
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jun 1, 2009 18:49
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On 2009-06-01 18:42, other_reality wrote:
This event was antiauthoritarian, and even if you think that some political party was behind this, the fact is that this movement is in general opposed to all of them. You could also describe it as a freedom fest. |
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Pasok is opposed to all of the rest of the political parties, so is ND, KKE..etc. Does that make their existence any more "legitimate" for this argument?
I am not a "political" racist either, I dislike all political parties that infect our minds like a virus, equally (including the anarchists).
And we'll agree to disagree on the "freedom fest" term as well. The only thing that was free in this party, was the entrance. The alcohol was not free, neither were the drugs
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Jun 1, 2009 19:22
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B-Fest was superb!!!!
High level of freedom , great music , positive vibes , powerful sound system and a team (you know who you are) that has NO opponent !!!
5 days of absolute pleasure!!!
What a free man who likes music would ask for !!!
The level is too high now!!!
Freedom strikes back for good !!!
I am wondering why do i have the best impressions from the parties that took place at universities and public places ???
Maybe because they are the best !!!
Maybe because they are free !!!
Maybe because they have the culture that suits this music best !!!
Thank you Babylonia for making this happen!!!
Thank you Sotokkan for the amazing line up!!!
For everyone that urged with this festival i have a question :
What have you done better in the past and what will you do better in the future for the people than this festival did ???
This answer i want to hear and NOT cheap talks...
Truth's out !
p.s.: The bear was at 1.5e. The alcohol was at 3.5e, the refreshments at 1.0e and the water at 0.5e !!!
I hardly remember such cheap prices at other festivals... ---RealPsyLifeForRealPsyPeople--- |
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virava
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Posted : Jun 1, 2009 19:23
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On 2009-06-01 18:42, other_reality wrote:
This made more people aware of the music, and maybe the people that stay close to this music a bit more satisfied.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jun 1, 2009 19:31
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On 2009-06-01 18:42, other_reality wrote:
This made more people aware of the music, and maybe the people that stay close to this music a bit more satisfied.
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Not me, but we'll go in more detail about it tomorrow, as I have to go and work hard now, so that I can make money for coke and hookers...
Peace out.
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DR SAMMY
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Posted : Jun 1, 2009 19:47
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vally
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Posted : Jun 2, 2009 01:10
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the girl broke her leg ...and the organizers decided that it is not ethically "correct" to play music until she leaves from the place... and i suppose that teo did not play because of that delay ... i guess about that i am not sure...
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gutter
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Posted : Jun 2, 2009 10:21
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On 2009-06-02 01:10, vally wrote:
the girl broke her leg ...and the organizers decided that it is not ethically "correct" to play music until she leaves from the place... and i suppose that teo did not play because of that delay ... i guess about that i am not sure...
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a doctor was in front & told ppl not to move her cause she had broke her ankle and was wasted from alcohol, therefore lying in front of the dancefloor was impossible for Max to start playing (it was ahalf hour delay btw), probably trancers would not hesitate to dance on her and nicola together the exact time the music would start (i saw very anxious ppl that time lol)
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