Trance Forum | Stats | Register | Search | Parties | Advertise | Login

There are 0 trance users currently browsing this page
Trance Forum » » Forum  Trance - Averaged Trance Crowd
← Prev Page
1 2 3 4 5 Next Page →
First Page Last Page
Share on facebook Share on twitter Share on StumbleUpon
Author

Averaged Trance Crowd

Mali


Started Topics :  1
Posts :  98
Posted : Feb 9, 2004 13:36
Quote:

On 2004-02-09 03:43, FluoSamsara wrote:

Its full of wrong people doing the wrong drugs on the wrong place....and kids who think they know it all....



How come that everything is sooo wrong?
And how old is a kid in your opinion? Might be that to somebody older then yourself you are still a kid....
-Abatwa-
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  42
Posts :  1087
Posted : Feb 9, 2004 17:38
also I nearly stopped going to all the parties because of the very bad crowd. most of the crowd here comes without knowing who is the artist playing. they just know its eloctronic music and think it as a different "clubbing" night. also as I have posted my complaints before, some artists play for the majority of the crowd making it sound like house parties.
some others come just to look at girls. there are also people coming just to start trouble.
a minority only comes for the music played. its sad really. therefore I wait for festivals there are also some similar people in festivals but still, it doesnt distrub me that much.           `Bottomless wonders spring from simple rules, which are repeated without end` Mandelbrot
FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  84
Posts :  1164
Posted : Feb 9, 2004 19:29
Quote:

On 2004-02-09 03:57, Elysium Project wrote:
Maybe your just going to the wrong parties. Have you guys ever though about that you might be the wrong people at the parties and not the so-called Arsim's ?

And Arsim's do not have the monopoly to bad behaviour.



Well, first of all, I don't really know the meaning for Arsim, I don't even know what language it is! I just took the meaning that The Caos Teory gave and assumed who they were, and probably they are those that in Portugal are called "mitras".

I go to parties to many years, it used to be a friendly environment where you could be relaxed and be whoever you want to be...

Psy Parties are supposed to be know for PLUR (peace, love unity, respect)

Now in Portugal, you can't leave values in your car or someone will steal them, (if they don't steal the whole car as it hapened before...),
you can't take a nap with your bag next to you or it won't be there when you wake up, happened twice to me....
you can't make a spliff in the dancefloor without having 10 monkeys around you wanting to be the next one to smoke, almost "imposing" it, if u know what I mean...

Now, EP, is this what you consider the people "supposed" to be there?But yes, its true, they are there, and they are the majority...

Organizers in portugal now have to do tricks like only revealing party location on day before, only advertising by email or sms, lots of things only to try and get the right crowd to a party...Some suceed better than others...but its always a lot to do with luck I guess...

Quote:

On 2004-02-09 13:36, Mali wrote:
Quote:

On 2004-02-09 03:43, FluoSamsara wrote:

Its full of wrong people doing the wrong drugs on the wrong place....and kids who think they know it all....



How come that everything is sooo wrong?
And how old is a kid in your opinion? Might be that to somebody older then yourself you are still a kid....




I don't have problem with kids, I don't even have problem with children in parties...

But you know that age when you think you know it all, but in true you know nothing? (in portugal is called "closet age" don't know if same term is used in other languages...)

Have you never had any of those kids who have been in like two parties, they know a couple of tunes from skazi and gms, and they just start talking to you saying the most stupid comments on planet triyng to show they are the masters of psy, and triyng to explain you whats the meaning of all this? And when you try to talk they just don't listen and continue on their stupid theories(for them laws, not theories, but they just made them 2 sec ago)?
Well, we get that a lot...!

Also, groups of 18-20 yo kids who think the best one is the one who handles more drugs, and end up taking two acids and seven pills in a partie, collapsing on your feet with their eyes totally blanked out? And they think you are not cool or you don't know what trance is about if you're not triping out? This happens a lot too!Every party almost now! We have assossiations of ppl that formed groups and go around parties giving candies and papers triyng to explain to kids that this is not just about being hamered, and its not normal to do 7 pils, we had the need to start those things because of kids diyng in paries doing too much drugs, triyng to show how strong they are... sad...


About doing the wrong drugs, in portugal laws in parties basically don't exist...its not very nice to go to the bar, and have a guy doing a 50cm highway line of coke on the bar balcony while you are waiting for your drink is it? Well, for many I believe it would be a pleasant scenario, for me definetelly is not... And when I mentined wrong drugs, most ppl are on either coke or ketamine or some crazy shit like that, few ppl on psychedelic drugs....

I personally don't take almost anything, and in the rare ocasions when i take it must be psychedelic and natural, but thats just a personal thing, don't take chemicals, never took and never will, just take what mother nature has to offer me
But I don't have anything against ppl who choose to take, but sometimes from the "espectator" point of view, I see that parties where a lot better place when ppl would just stick to psychedelics and pils.

Sorry for the huge post (think its my longest post ever..hehe), I didn't want to write so much in the other post, because my feelings about this are really strong,

I love psy trance, I love what it stands for, its a part of me, and it makes me really sad to see the things I love going in the wrong direction...

EP, about what you said, about going to the wrong parties, I've been getting that feeling over and over on the way home to parties latelly.

Thank god for the festival I went in morrocco in new year, that made me remember of what this really is about for me, and made me see its still alive in many of us

Trance will get better again in my opinion as I said !

And remember, P.L.U.R.


Trip-
IsraTrance Team

Started Topics :  101
Posts :  3239
Posted : Feb 9, 2004 20:45
just to clear things up:

Arsim, shimonim, jakoim, partsufim... these are only in israel man. Even if u think there are similar ppl in ur country, they are NOT like them... this is restricted to israel.

kris... bad behaviour is bad behaviour, and arsim got a tendency to it.           Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
AgalactiA
Nathan
IsraTrance Senior Member

Started Topics :  301
Posts :  3605
Posted : Feb 9, 2004 23:17
Arsim are the only buyers of the strange fake compilations in the Central bus station in Tel-Aviv.
("Janana", "INFEKTED MASHU", "BALBALA").
          -=The Meaning Of Life Is To Give Life A Meaning=
Pavel
Troll

Started Topics :  312
Posts :  8646
Posted : Feb 10, 2004 00:06
Quote:

On 2004-02-08 22:18, TiMMY wrote:
Here there are very ugly people, almost everybody is ugly.

On one side we have those 18 year olds. They don't know shit, they're all on E and they destroy the vibe of the party.

On the other side we have many 40+ year olds. WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY DOING IN A TRANCE PARTY?
I mean, for god's sake, don't they have something else to do? they're soooooo old.
I think they come because they want to feel young again. Well STOP DREAMING and let me dance peacefully.

And most disturbing of all, they all like full on

The only crowd I like in trance parties is people who look like ME, are the same age as ME and have the same skin color as ME.

This post was written sarcastically, yet no offence intended to anyone.



For a second i thought you were serious man...
          Everyone in the world is doing something without me
Mali


Started Topics :  1
Posts :  98
Posted : Feb 10, 2004 00:44
Hey FluoSamsara I understand what you are saying, I feel a bit the same as you. Didn't know that Portugal turned into such a bad direction. Sorry to hear that.
theraphosi


Started Topics :  6
Posts :  30
Posted : Feb 10, 2004 06:20
Quote:

On 2004-02-09 20:45, Trip- wrote:
just to clear things up:

Arsim, shimonim, jakoim, partsufim... these are only in israel man. Even if u think there are similar ppl in ur country, they are NOT like them... this is restricted to israel.

kris... bad behaviour is bad behaviour, and arsim got a tendency to it.



Why only in Israel?
What do these words really mean?
          "Pump it up a little more,
get the party going on the dancefloor..."
psilocybe
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  14
Posts :  368
Posted : Feb 10, 2004 08:47
Quote:
Organizers in portugal now have to do tricks like only revealing party location on day before, only advertising by email or sms, lots of things only to try and get the right crowd to a party



im quite disillusioned about this thread and what people have said. it might only get worse if the popularity of trance increases... i cant believe people could do that at a trance party..!! or anywhere for that matter <stealing cars, bags..>. in SA it is true many people do come just because it s a place they come f*ck out on drugs, dance to 'clubbyish' music, without fully understanding what it all represents.

quite sad, as this thread has pointed out. but yes on the otherhand there are those that can fully appreciate trance for what it truly is, we're just in the minority it seems. parties here are in no way as bad as i have read here, i dont have to worry about my valuables, but it does bug when i see fad- followers who are here cos trance is the next cool thing and offers a place to get high...

i dont really know what to say that could comfort u all on the thread, myself included. i can just hope the P.L.U.R. does prevail as u said, FluoSamsara. dude all i can say is have faith in the goodness...
nobody4
Inactive User

Started Topics :  21
Posts :  358
Posted : Feb 10, 2004 09:42
Interesting, this duscussion (like MP3) is neverending.
On one hand, there is the tradition of GOA trance, with its tribal community gathering of PLURizm, which I really miss. The days when I found myself dancing in a forest with a family of Hofman smiles around me or joining a comfortable chillum circle with ppl I never met before are basically history.
On the other hand, there is the ESSENCE of PLUR, which (if you wanna consider yourself a true new-age-hippy) tells me that EVERYBODY is welcome to the circle of Shiva, no matter what skin color, age, education or whatever.

U gotta remember that EVERYTHING living in the universe has to change eventualy, or it dies. Psy-trance has changed completely when it became more popular, attracting ppl who dont necesarily "been there" and know what its all about beyond the pounding music and drugs. Now you have to choose between the popular side (where the major artists, producers, festivals AND crowd is) or the private one (in small, family-like gatherings).
I've been a part of small gatherings like this (back in Israel), and although you dont get a 'major act' in them, they feel more true to the essence.

I live in Finland now, and here the drug culture (sorry to say) is quite horrible. Its almost like a test of manhood, to take as much drugs (including alchohol) as possible and show the world that finns are the most fucked up party ppl - the most common remark I've heard is "you dont understand this because you dont take enough drugs" - which is, IMO, straying from the path of purity. Drugs are only means to achieve enlightment, not the meaning itself, and here comes the education part, which in our scene (and neighbouring scenes) is totaly lacking. I really dig the action taken by FluroSamsara and his friends when dealing with kids on drugs, it could contribute to the safty and well being of all party goers.

But, dont forget - Shiva is in everybody, and belongs to everybody. Trance music is not yours by merit of clothing, hair, age, sex or whatever. Its music, and like any other art can be precieved differently by different ppl.

boom,
A
          auspexx@compact-records.com
Mali


Started Topics :  1
Posts :  98
Posted : Feb 10, 2004 11:28
Quote:

On 2004-02-10 09:42, helen wrote:

- the most common remark I've heard is "you dont understand this because you dont take enough drugs" -



Oh, you can hear that everywhere now. Only the people fucked on drugs really understand what's going on, - or so they think.

Bonji


Started Topics :  4
Posts :  157
Posted : Feb 10, 2004 16:32

I wonder if that is only for the Trance parties, or are all the wrong people at the wrong parties. Maybe somebody should make some kind of trance party manual.

Or maybe there are no wrong people, that's just how people are today.


nirvana


Started Topics :  2
Posts :  141
Posted : Feb 10, 2004 22:11

Maybe you are right, most people became like this, but not all, and there is still hope to turn it all around.

psilocybe
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  14
Posts :  368
Posted : Feb 11, 2004 08:53
NoKeyAah u crazy man... hmmm mental note: remember that if overbearing pill popper tramples me..
Trance Forum » » Forum  Trance - Averaged Trance Crowd
← Prev Page
1 2 3 4 5 Next Page →
First Page Last Page
Share on facebook Share on twitter Share on StumbleUpon


Copyright © 1997-2024 IsraTrance