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another bassline issue but not quiet boring ;)
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Saii
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Posted : Mar 23, 2009 08:18:53
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i wanted to know
when rolling fullon basslines shift notes like up and down ( the usual 4 bars on C then up to G for 2 bars then finally 2 bars of E...and so on)
now, how do professionally made basslines stay on the same attack all throughout the 8bars even with the change of notes...
my basslines fade kind of when the drop to a lower note.
is it a limiter if so what is the settings for this to happen i havent been successful with it
thanks again guys!!
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Seppa
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Posted : Mar 23, 2009 10:12
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This topic has been discussed before here is the thread
http://forum.isratrance.com/domestic-bass-please-read-before-flaming/
As of page 2 Ido (domestic) is giving up tips , very good tips on making bass.
Now all the info are there answered but I'll just add this quickly
I'd like to do a tutorial on how to make a good pumpy bass domestic style or astrix kind.
I've just perfected it and learned a few tricks this last week while spending a huge
amount of time trying to understand what was missing and I did.
The link below is what I got after this week end work for those of you who heard the
samples I've uploaded recently you should be able to hear quite an improvement the
reason is I nailed something while comparing my bass waves with those of the like of
domestic and astrix. I will talk about it on the tutorial when I have time so stay
tuned.
http://www.adrive.com/public/bed0e9eab43821522dd3d07ffe36e2716af887f4d8c9b43fec4da17c6028108f.html
In the mean time I will say this.
1. get a good kick half the advice you will get from a pro won't have too much effect
unless you get a very good kick
2.spend a lot of time with the filter envellope and the filter cut off thats where your
bass is made.
3.eq is just for fine tuning. you do not need them to make a good sounding bass so if its
not good without work on the synth more.
4. all what I just said execpt 1 is on the thread of domestic I did not come up with it I just
applied and with a lot of work patience understanding and I improved drastically
5.bounce your kick bass analyse it and compare it to a kick bass of the track you like
... of course it needs to be isolated no lead ect... you will notice something.
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Posted : Mar 23, 2009 10:31
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Looking forward to the tutorial
I am new to this (making Psy ans song writing) but I think I have made a decent kick. I will post it up, maybe some feedback will be good and if anyone likes it then of course they are free to use it. |
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icedice
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Posted : Mar 23, 2009 11:44
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Now this is a tutorial I'm looking forward to see. Also thanx for the tips. |
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Phasmatix81
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Posted : Mar 23, 2009 13:55
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yes, looking forward to read more about this |
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Saii
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Posted : Mar 23, 2009 20:40
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seppa thats a sick bassline i would really like to see your video tutorial let me know when its done...but you guys didnt answer my question...what im saying is not when the bassline is one note. i want it to glide between different notes but stay the same power all throug out aso if its normalized or something....let me know if you no what i mean
ciao guys
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Chimp in Space
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Posted : Mar 23, 2009 21:56
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Seppa, that's a really good idea and I would be one of the guy's that would be learning from it  Looking forward to it
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Seppa
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Posted : Mar 23, 2009 22:55
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Well just came back home after a long day of work ( I wish I could quit to concentrate on my production and perform live
for an audience.. but hey can't have everything.)
Sali check out that first link its explained there.
Long story short if your bass is well done tweaked properly then the change of note
should not have too much of an impact on the bassline.
check this out:
http://www.adrive.com/public/f90cf09b86e45aa5c80c3efb1c5920c559e394dfd698743ea958818699d932a1.html
I've taken the bass I posted this morning and made it play on different note
This is the very same bass I made originally on A is not suffering by the change of
note.I'm not gonna eq it again but mabye the eq could be slightly different.
If I was to go from A1 to A3 there would be a loss of power but within the same
octave no problem.
You cannot have all note sound the same.. they all have a different bass feel and
have more or less power. unless its not tweaked it should never be too much of a
problem
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sly
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Posted : Mar 23, 2009 23:10
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at least domestic is a good teacher 
honestly, he gave the best advices about bassline here ever. i would also say: take a good kick and read the thread.
but better stay on one note, a deep one if possible 
i know, it's difficult to switch notes with a proper sound. mind your filter settings (decay, key tracking,...), buy an expensive comp and use it every day over a year.
be careful with notches and hipass in eq, think between which root freqs you change.
maybe slight distortion on a defined band can help.
a solution could be to make tracks for each note and eq individually. way too much work for my taste
boom
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D.H.P.
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Posted : Mar 24, 2009 01:42
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I know what you mean Saii. Don't use a limiter. Use a compressor. Use one that shows a meter so you can see when your sound is being properly compressed. I can't tell you the settings because for each situation it's different. You just have to fool around with the setting on it until you get even levels. Also maybe try a eq boost with a wide Q between 40-150 Hz. |
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jizy
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Posted : Mar 24, 2009 02:06
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i like to use E1 then every 3 bars one note on D1 to give it that whoomff then 3bars again to A1 for some innovated groove
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Saii
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Posted : Mar 24, 2009 02:36
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sick guys,
now seppa when r u gonna finish your tutorial thats some sick shit..i like the way it sounds man very stable....let me know bro
cheers
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Saii
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Posted : Mar 24, 2009 05:42
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guys i just made this with the domestic information in mind tell me what you honestly think and i want you to be harsh if you want to be its the only way to learn
thanks guys
http://www.sendspace.com/file/d4rj3b
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D.H.P.
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Posted : Mar 24, 2009 07:46
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On 2009-03-24 05:42, Saii wrote:
guys i just made this with the domestic information in mind tell me what you honestly think and i want you to be harsh if you want to be its the only way to learn
thanks guys
http://www.sendspace.com/file/d4rj3b
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Too much sub man. Sounds muddy. Do a wide cut in the 300Hz area and boost around 6kHz to add more presence. Looks like your kick (In the waveform) is running into your bass. |
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Seppa
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Posted : Mar 24, 2009 09:52
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Good start Saii,
What chain did you use including synth?
which daw are you using?
I would put a quadrafuzz to give the bass more weight and to make it sound cooler if its not already done.
Other than that I don't think it sounds muddy.
Its difficult to judge the bass sound so far because its not as loud and as fat as the kick but quadrafuzz could remedy to that.
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