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GyPsynate
GyPsy

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Posted : Jul 31, 2008 17:52
I love CO but 1-2 hours of psytrance in a whole night is not enough for me...
Buddah bomb is a totally great guy but he seems to play Downtempo and or world music half way through a set even if it is in the mid of the night.I have yet to hear him play a whole psy set( I hear it happens ).Family moons dont really play psytrance much, more breaks but at leased he gets a few trance tracks in but to me its just a tease.
I know Family Moons kind of do half their events in NM and half in CO I have yet to make one in NM but I do like there indoor events in CO.


          \\\"Invoking the inner dancing buddha with future frequencies from beyond\\\" ~GyPsy
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Cerebral Theater
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Jul 31, 2008 19:00
yeah we've been throwing more mixed-genre events recently because nobody was showing up to all-psytrance parties. it's not like 'neuro' is a novelty here, everyone was playing it in 2005-06. after a while our friends started bitching about having to listen to 150 bpm all night and then the music itself started getting stale and boring. maybe we just aren't hardcore enough. in any case, you'll still get at least 4-5 hours of it per night, but mostly of the groovier variety ala Wild Things and Glowing Flame.

as to family moons hasn't really been doing events in NM lately, i think they're concentrating on their live PA.           ..it's just another party..
Btros
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Posted : Aug 1, 2008 07:56
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On 2008-07-31 19:00, DiMiTry wrote:
yeah we've been throwing more mixed-genre events recently because nobody was showing up to all-psytrance parties. it's not like 'neuro' is a novelty here, everyone was playing it in 2005-06.




Yep... the same 20-30 people hanging out in the woods is fun and all, but there's something much more satisfying about a rocking dancefloor of several hundred (or 10,000)

Btros
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Posted : Aug 1, 2008 08:11
Gypsy, you were at our last event. From 2:30 am to about 9 or 10 am, we played psytrance. Antix played from 12:30 to 2:30, and whether or not they are "Psytrance" according to your definition may be debatable, but I played from 2:30 on, and I don't care if you prefer 150 BPM, I played psytrance. Kiva played after me, and he plays psytrance. Bob played after Kiva, and yes, his style is a bit fluffier, but he still played psytrance. The Israeli guy who got on after Bob kept playing psytrance until 10 am or so. That's a good eight hours of psy, flowing from Antix earlier in the evening. And for the record, I think Antix IS totally psychedelic, playing at 130 bpm. So even though it may not be to your taste, to say you only get 1-2 hours of psytrance in a night at CO parties is a bit ridiculous IMO.

GyPsynate
GyPsy

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Posted : Aug 1, 2008 11:08
Yeah, I had a good time at all the events that Paridgm has done so far out here this summer...
And no the music that has been played is not exactly my cup-o-tea of but I never said I disliked it either, we all have our opinions.I like all kinds of music, and I enjoyed your set very much Btros, and you your self said you wanted to play a harder full on set but because you had to play between the two progressive acts that you dident think it would be the best idea( in so many words ).And I was not talking about this summer, I was talking about MY experience with CO.I have lived here for well over a year now, not that long but from MY experience thats how its been in CO.But this summer there has been a bunch of "psytrance" events in CO and more to come I hope.
I would love to see AUM happen in CO next summer, than all you peeps that like the Mass #'s on the dance floor can get your fix.
I personally dont like to have mass amounts of people at events.The Kiva show was good or like Earthdance last year was great!
So there! lol

          \\\"Invoking the inner dancing buddha with future frequencies from beyond\\\" ~GyPsy
D-A-R-K Rec, Anomalistic Rec.
Cerebral Theater
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Alexander


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Posted : Aug 1, 2008 12:37
We've been doing 50-150 person "family style" gatherings for roughly 8 years, and after enough time messing around with what could be, a few of us decided to take on some risk over the next few years and do some international type shows, within 500, but with international equivilant sound, production, and lineups.

Gypsy, having only lived here for a year explains your position on these issues. Doing any gathering proper is about flow, and flow in CO suggests a wee bit of variety within Psychedelic EDM.

Having been humble, smooth, and diligent about working a Trance scene into the popularity of CO's EDM culture over the past few years, I can say that our ambition is slowly evolving into what our true goals have ultimately been: to create consistent, professionally executed, creatively thought out gatherings with international talent, in an environment that causes the imagination to believe visitation of a different planet or dimension is occurring.
Oh, and let us not forget our now fully assembled Turbo Aspect 880 rig, sparing no expense on state-of-the-art, transparent aural bliss...
We would like more to visit our cosmic playground and experience all we offer, especially for the price and closeness to the city, a wonderful time indeed.

Oh, and, in order to throw a Trance party proper, peeps in CO better start learning how to party longer, most headliners at international festivals don't even come on until sunrise. People all bonking out at 3 is beat....get it together people!!
The Israelis, as usual, have it figured out, rocking out with their glasses on until noon and beyond.
THANK YOU!!!!!
If people get that one figured out consistently, we'll be able to REALLY accomplish what we've set out to do with organizing these gatherings.
          <~/ALEXANDER\~>

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Btros
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Posted : Aug 1, 2008 16:09
talk about a thread hijack! We should be having this discussion in the come on colorado thread
GyPsynate
GyPsy

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Posted : Aug 1, 2008 19:51
I agree totally with you Alex ,but the whole point with this thread was for NM not CO.
I have already talked with Gwyn about doing some events on private land between the two states.
And it sounds like soon we will have more dark full-on headliners in our area by next summer.
YAY!
We need more "dark" heads out here to help me with this battle...And the Godpsy kids have it they understand the "dark" elements.
Mabey its more of a SF,west coast,NW, thing but there is something spiritually moving about "dark" heavy trance in the woods.

I also think that have'in intentional energy events like "dark" or "Full-on"and "spiritual" themed events are key to expanding ones mind into new ideas and feelings, if one was feed fluff all your life than those doors would be closed and we all know how horrific a closed mind can be right? (We all know those people.)
These events are NOT for everyone and should not be taken lightly. These type events are to break open barriers in the mind and let you self realize or grow mentally.If you are an unstable person you may not want to go through this rabbit hole, or it may be just what you needed.
If that means 20-100 people at these events than so be it, at leased they will be the 20-100 people that you WANT to be there and not 500 who just heard about it from a flyer they found on the ground.I personally do not have any intentions on throwing these kinds of Rave parties but only want to deal with Psytrance events and adults who understand why they are there.
Down with unicorn trance!
          \\\"Invoking the inner dancing buddha with future frequencies from beyond\\\" ~GyPsy
D-A-R-K Rec, Anomalistic Rec.
Cerebral Theater
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kyote321

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Posted : Aug 1, 2008 20:42
while i understand the place of darkpsy, there is place for the light as well. building from progressive to dark back to progressive is pretty standard in much of the psy world. is banging on at 150 bpm with scary aggressive music at 10am a spiritual path? or something to keep the tweekers happy?

if you want a night of full-on, all night dark psy with a small gathering come to the 8-8-8 event near taos.

i don't see albuquerque's 'rave' scene evolving to take in psytrance, esp. darkpsy. at this point, i am happy the taos scene is still active

Alexander


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Posted : Aug 1, 2008 21:07
I'm having a hard time with some of ya'll's thoughts over our intentions.
You and Liz both enjoy trying to preach to me about how "spiritual" your events are, and how they should be so themed. Each gathering that has been organized by our crew is solely based upon spirituality and connectivity within humanity even beyond the Trance community. Our small culture is not evolving because of someone picking up a flyer off the ground, it is from gathering the right fan base from years of class and understanding, while lots of hard work promoting to the "right" people.

You and your crew may do whatever you like, but please don't make the mistake of acting elitist, especially within a public forum, by suggesting your woodsy camping parties are anything but....we've been doing stuff like that for many years and have graduated into the challange of something much greater: enticing a part CO's EDM community to visit Psychedelic gatherings that have been professionally organized for the purpose of exploring a new realm of spirituality.
I find it somewhat amusing that in my many years helping organize, promote, and execute events of many types, that consistently the people suggesting how happy they are with organizing super small, "intimate" gatherings either don't have the proper time, capital, or ambition to actually go out and professionally organize + execute a real event that carries some risk. Ya want something bad enough, the work needs to go into it depending upon level of quality one is searching for.
We are not just aiming for the Psy people...in fact, we want others to realize that the genre is not just what they're there for, but the experience as a whole.
Do your gatherings, we'll most likely begin joining them at some point, depending upon our schedule with sound and production for other crews, but remember that some of us are looking for longevity and the much larger picture of what is truly possible in the next 5-10 years, not just a fun flash in the pan...we've already been down that path.

Anyway, if you want to continue this, let us post in the CO thread instead of here...seems a bit more appropriate, eh?

BTW, to you, who are some "dark" artists?
I mean, what labels are you buying from? What artists are you playing?
So far, I've run into some inconsistencies with what is liked by some peeps in your crew, suggesting that certain music isn't liked, but then mentioning some of the same artists in later conversations.

Oh, and, just about every artist we have lined up for the next couple of shows is a true Psychedelic Trance artist, just within the genre there are a few styles for flow.
But, nonetheless, Trance gatherings.
Deep, Dark, + Hard, moving into the sunlight hours with a unifying concept.
I, too, only want to deal with Trance, but flow is one of the most important details for any show.
Eventually the crowd will be right and consistent for every one, and our collective's smiles shall only become larger as our credibility grows further into being a first class organzation to work with.
          <~/ALEXANDER\~>

www.paradigmpro.us
Btros
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Aug 1, 2008 21:44
I think we all know sometimes "small and intimate" and "family style-gathering" are really just other ways of saying "wow, there's no one here..."
DiMiTry
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Posted : Aug 1, 2008 22:30
I've done events with Onetribe, Mindflux, Wacky Shack, Harmonic Motion, Metameme, probably almost a hundred small and intimate and larger psytrance parties here over the years. i think we averaged about 250 wonderful people at several events 2-3 years ago and they were growing all the time.

let me tell you, 230 of these people were NOT there for the music. they were there for the vibe and the party. Many of them eventually stopped coming because they got sick of psytrance being played all the fucking time, be it dark psy or fluffy psy, they were complaining that it was too much for them. they wanted psychedelic music, but didn't want it to be all psytrance.

honestly i don't think we have enough foreigners to sustain a large psy scene, nor do we have the weight of, say, Mother Earth/Communikey, which draws crowds to hear challenging, difficult music because of its history and vibe. You can do all-psy forest parties for 30 people like we have for years, just don't expect it to grow to 100 unless you bring in other genres or tap other crowds besides the same one that's been here for the last 6-7 years.

One or two large events per year - maybe possible. I still think the most viable way to keep a psychedelic party movement going is by collaborating and diversifying - have a psytrance stage and a techno/breaks stage or vary the lineup.. i'm done with being a psytrance nazi, it's boring.

          ..it's just another party..
Alexander


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Posted : Aug 1, 2008 23:17
For sure.
And this is what I'm saying. Psychedelic Trance flows through my soul, but I'm aware that there are other styles of Psychedelic music that should be included in these gatherings, not only for multiple people's enjoyment, but for flow of the evening.
I've met so many wonderful souls through the years at Trance gatherings, many of which weren't into any form of EDM at all, but they continually told me that the experience was what they wanted, and that the music was just another piece to that puzzle.
One person at a Green Sector show a few years back actually said, "I don't really care so much for the music alone, but it is definitely the sound nature itself is making through the energy that is presented at gatherings such as these."
Perfect, absolutely perfect.
DMTree, you definitely know of what I speak.

Lastly, if anyone ever has any question as to my soul's intentions, desire, spirituality, etc, feel free to have a conversation with Schmid~E...he has been one of our greatest advocates, and will absolutely vouch for my heart's sacrifice and desire for what we at Paradigm do.           <~/ALEXANDER\~>

www.paradigmpro.us
GyPsynate
GyPsy

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Posts :  687
Posted : Aug 2, 2008 09:21
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On 2008-08-01 21:07, Alexander wrote:
I'm having a hard time with some of ya'll's thoughts over our intentions.
You and Liz both enjoy trying to preach to me about how "spiritual" your events are, and how they should be so themed. Each gathering that has been organized by our crew is solely based upon spirituality and connectivity within humanity even beyond the Trance community.



Please do not combine my words with lizz we are not one person because we do events together.
I have never said anything about your events like this... and Preach? Please

Have I ever asked you what your intentions were for your events?

I have known Shmitty for most of the time I have lived in CO and yes he has said good things about yall since before I ever met you guys.
I dont know why you seem to be so defensive about all this, I never said anything about your events other than the lazer in my eyes( thank you for fixing that )and that I had a good time.
This is not a battle you know that?
It is supposed to be one community right?
I never said anything about our events being spiritual or that yours were not...nor did I make our events sound as if they were anything other than what they are.FREE Small intimate events.
As far as being elitist go's we have done 1 event so far in CO...
How can you have made such a judgmental comment when we have been to all your events so far and ours are open for all to come help and be a part of the crew.That would be the opposite of elitist right?
If we were elitist we would not go to your or anyone else's events we would just go to our own.My wife and I TRY to make it to every event thats happening at all within a few hours of Denver.




          \\\"Invoking the inner dancing buddha with future frequencies from beyond\\\" ~GyPsy
D-A-R-K Rec, Anomalistic Rec.
Cerebral Theater
http://www.molecular.cc/GyPsy/
karmavsDogma
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Posted : Aug 2, 2008 10:43
perhaps the mods should start a drama thread

seriously, though, I hope we seem some psy events in NM, no matter how large they get. Anything to spread the psy goodness in the desert out here will be greatly appreciated.           "Every generation needs a new revolution." ~Thomas Jefferson
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