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Ableton 8 specific Psy Tricks!

willsanquil
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Posted : Jun 21, 2010 05:02
mmmm thanks for the heads up on both.

Oh! A lot of times when you hear kick/bass introduced, the bass seems to filter in all weird...I have heard it a lot over the past couple years and it only just clicked that it was just a band pass sweeping through the bass...

and autofilter is perfect for this! just drop one set to bandpass and automate frequency....very distinctive sound with bass, you'll hear it right away            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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FaceHead
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Posted : Jun 21, 2010 09:32
put as many effects as your computer can handle on any sound then route lots of parameters to many knobs and hit record. then you play the abstract like an instrument then censor its vulgarities. whoop bang ride the wave then cut the fat.
willsanquil
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Posted : Jun 21, 2010 09:41
+1 - the most fun I have and the coolest sounds I make come from near-random experimentation and just overloading/mangling the shit out of something, and ! a pattern emerges from the chaos!            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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Kryten
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Posted : Jun 21, 2010 10:29
+1 too

I noticed that too in the last time. I have created quite some samples by just throw in recorded stuff and loads of effects on it.
sp0ok
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Posted : Jun 21, 2010 13:54
So I have my Kick and my bassline tracks (four in number)...Is there a shorter way in ableton to mix down these four into one track ?

Currently i'm routing the audio from my master channel into one track and recording it.
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Ascension
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Posted : Jun 21, 2010 16:23
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On 2010-06-21 13:54, sp0ok wrote:
So I have my Kick and my bassline tracks (four in number)...Is there a shorter way in ableton to mix down these four into one track ?

Currently i'm routing the audio from my master channel into one track and recording it.




Make a new Audio track and route all those channels to it.           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Jun 21, 2010 19:44
Or you can just export audio, like you would with a finished project - through File menue.
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Posted : Jun 21, 2010 21:16
Or he could group them, then bounce the group channel.           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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willsanquil
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 02:15
ascension - do you know how to bounce a group channel that also has the sends recorded?

like I want to mix my track down into stems but when I route the groups to other audio channels my sends dont get recorded            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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Ascension
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 16:14
If the group is the only one going to that send, you could just bounce the send channel.

If you have other stuff going to it, maybe duplicate the send channels and just send what you want to one of them then bounce that.           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 19:51
1. Route an audio channel to Resampling, solo everything that you want to resample.

2. Route an audio channel to receive the return channel (capturing your sends) and next to that, route an audio channel to your original sound track. Group that track, then route the group to a third audio channel, and record on that one.
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 23:07
^ Couldn't you just make 1 audio track and route the group of channels and the return channel to it and record that (same things as #2)?           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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willsanquil
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Posted : Jun 23, 2010 02:13
man, what a pain in the ass. I have a tiny bit of send on a shitload of tracks....in each group I have between 10 and 20 tracks, and a significant portion of them have sends on them...

Seems like #1 and #2 are going to take a lot of time...1:1 recording at least 40 tracks with the hassle of re-routing a bunch of shit....hey I wonder..might be faster (though still annoyingly slow) to just export audio with only one group enabled at a time..that should work right?            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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willsanquil
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Posted : Jun 23, 2010 02:25
OK - nevermind its ridiculously easy!

#1 works Setting an audio track to Resampling (TOTALLY NEVER SAW THAT) and then routing your group channel into that audio track *will* record your sends on individual channels within that group..but if you don't set it to resample it does not record the sends!!!

So instead of exporting audio a bunch of times, or re-routing channels individually I just create 1 audio track for each major group, set them to resample, route the groups to those channels and 1:1 record

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willsanquil
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Posted : Jun 26, 2010 02:46
Really weird Moogy moving high end bass effect that makes your bass slide around...

take your bass instrument, duplicate it and then put a bandpass autofilter high up in the spectrum (like 1-5khz) and play with the LFO rate/amount - adds an interesting movement to the bass notes

don't think it will work so well for full-on style fast bass but its very cool in slower more open ended free-form kind of basses, or offbeat progressive style stuff.


Alternatively you can bump up the octave of your bassline a couple times and this will change into a lead line that follows along with the bass....leave as is for a mirror effect or use that as inspiration for your lead...and its already sidechained (maybe?)

edit: something I've found is that the LFO is very stagnant in terms of its automation in that at the low point of its cycle it just cuts the effect out entirely, so what I did instead was group the auto filter to an effect rack, add the frequency to a macro and adjust the macro's minimum and maximum values so that at those values the effect is still solid and is not fading or messy..and now all I have to do is record the automation manually. imo sounds much better than a LFO.           If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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