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Ableton 8 specific Psy Tricks!

willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 3, 2010 06:07
+1 on Racks...pretty much anything I find remotely interesting be it effects chains or instruments I throw into a rack and save for later
willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 5, 2010 11:04
I figured tricks can be instruments as well...

this patch was originally copied from a Tom Cosm video but has been souped up with a meatier intro

http://www.filefront.com/15745359/Filter%20Sweep.adg

Instrument Rack with an operator and two analogs, has a bunch of fun macro knobs for really making the sound morph and twist...can be used as a one shot ramp, or you can use it as a lead type at very short note length. Non-macro elements that are especially important are the attack times of the respective devices - its currently set to either 1.25 or 2.25 seconds, so alter to taste. Additionally the reverb length from the tail needs to be shortened if you want to use it as a lead with 16/32 note lengths

I encourage others to post racks and whatnot - if possible keep all instruments used Ableton native so as to be used by others.

Not using an old lead/bass patch, but think someone else might benefit from it? throw it into an instrument rack, label some macro knobs and post it! I think this could be a really fun way to share sounds and techniques
master bud


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Posted : Mar 6, 2010 10:41
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On 2010-03-05 11:04, willsanquil wrote:
I figured tricks can be instruments as well...

this patch was originally copied from a Tom Cosm video but has been souped up with a meatier intro

http://www.filefront.com/15745359/Filter%20Sweep.adg

Instrument Rack with an operator and two analogs, has a bunch of fun macro knobs for really making the sound morph and twist...can be used as a one shot ramp, or you can use it as a lead type at very short note length. Non-macro elements that are especially important are the attack times of the respective devices - its currently set to either 1.25 or 2.25 seconds, so alter to taste. Additionally the reverb length from the tail needs to be shortened if you want to use it as a lead with 16/32 note lengths

I encourage others to post racks and whatnot - if possible keep all instruments used Ableton native so as to be used by others.

Not using an old lead/bass patch, but think someone else might benefit from it? throw it into an instrument rack, label some macro knobs and post it! I think this could be a really fun way to share sounds and techniques



Hmm..Ableton says that it is 'broken'. Which version do you use?           Making what you want with what you have
willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 9, 2010 00:34
8.1 :\ that sucks.
willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 14, 2010 00:00
this isn't really an ableton tip at all, but this plugin is fuckin great for 'standard' psy sounds - great fun to reverse engineer your own patches, or throw multiple presets on top of each other in an instrument rack....found it on some 4 year old thread...THANKS search function!

http://scoofy.goa.hu/plugins.html
willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 14, 2010 10:25
wow. this guys videos are REALLY GOOD!

http://vimeo.com/user375586

highly recommend the advanced arpeggiator tricks....gonna make my life a lot easier thats for sure
willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 15, 2010 03:05
http://www.thecovertoperators.org/

GREAT free presets for Ableton devices....some very very nice psy-compatible stuff in there...and the Covert Sequencer is really fun to play with too
willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 19, 2010 02:58
great dub-delay tutorial:



willsanquil
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Posted : May 7, 2010 03:32
Gate the shit out of anything, everything *really* fast!

Say you have something, anything you would like to gate, go into the clip envelopes section, pick out something that will stutter the clip (I use mixer - volume a lot).

Set the quantize/grid of your clips window to a good setting, 16th and 32 notes work well for stuttering - GREAT shortcut for this is CTRL 1 and CTRL 2 - they slide the quantize/grid up or down one degree with each of those respective shorcuts - this saves so much time, no more shitty right clicking and selecting your grid.

Now, hit CTRL + B to activate your pen tool and draw the stutters in manually through the whole clip.

This technique also works well with unlinking your enevelope and looping it

but seriously, CTRL+1/2, and CTRL+B. great shortcuts and I hardly ever see anyone mention them.            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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Kryten
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Posted : May 7, 2010 12:17
First of all:
Big thanks willsanquil for all those links and tips.

Yesterday I started to experiment with clips and clip envelopes. Before I was only using the arrangement window and didnt know anything about clips.

This was the best dvice ever so far! Working with clips at the start seems to get much faster results...and with envelopes and effect chains there are some pretty nice possibilitys.

Only problem I have now: I git difficulties gertting the stuff I did in the session view with clips into the arrangement.
I could just copy the clips, but then I got the whole clips there and not only that part I looped and worked on with clip envelopes...

I tried to record stuff with a seperate audio track, but somehow that did not work very well....

Any hint on what the best way would be there?
Maine Coon
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Posted : May 7, 2010 18:22
^
I am not exactly sure I understand the problems you encountered. But if you play your music in the session window with the record button on - it will copy everything into the arrangement window as it plays, each track separately. Is this what you were asking?
willsanquil
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Posted : May 7, 2010 22:46
Pretty sure maine coon nailed it - but yeah getting stuff from session to arrangement can be tricky - another thing you can try is to freeze a clip then bounce it. Keep in mind however that anytime you freeze and bounce in session view you get two passes on the bounce, meaning that if you freeze a 2 bar clip you'll get a 4 bar bounce.            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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telekom youth
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Posted : May 8, 2010 06:02
willsanquil, can you repost that rack, I'm not finding the one you are referring to on the tom cosm site. Love tom cosm stuff, very informative and have learned a ton about ableton through him.           http://soundcloud.com/tactile-one
willsanquil
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Posted : May 9, 2010 07:38
Here is a pack of FX presets that I have made...not all of them have macro knobs but a couple do, I have a lot of fun with these sounds I hope someone else does too You need ableton 8.1 in order to work with this btw :\

http://www.sendspace.com/file/65i0e1            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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telekom youth
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Posted : May 9, 2010 19:52
Nice thanx! For that ill share one i tinkered with a while ago. I may add a lot more to it to have some more dramatic effects over it, but it sounds pretty metallic.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=60PNPWNM           http://soundcloud.com/tactile-one
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