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a NO DJ party concept

karnaf
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Posted : Jun 14, 2004 18:50
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On 2004-06-13 16:34, Yuli wrote:
I am definitely for no DJ stand and definitely disagree with Shanti here - I think mostly these days when everyone is a DJ and DJing mostly is matter of EGO it can be nice for a party to make the DJ the most unimportant part of the event BUT I do think it has to be done live and not pre recorded



Fully agree. It has to be live because the crowd changes the mood of the music and vice versa, but ppl put too much into the DJ name and status.

Maybe instead of a hidden / pre recorded DJ we can just have a DJ who can select music, mix it, and does not suffer from an ego trip?

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Electronic Bungalow
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Posted : Jun 14, 2004 20:35
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On 2004-06-14 18:50, karnaf wrote:

Maybe instead of a hidden / pre recorded DJ we can just have a DJ who can select music, mix it, and does not suffer from an ego trip?



I'm not too demanding here...a dj able to make a good selection & mix it properly would be enough. Both conditions met, let him/her have his/her ego trip.

Meanwhile, one thought came into my mind: The organizers play a significant role in this mess, as they are the ones who sometimes line bad djs up to their parties. Out of cutting costs or out of friendship, it doesn't matter, the results are well known. Usually these djs fill the lineup gaps between the djs/projects that really matter (I know, I know, it's not usually like that, but in a good many cases is).

So, let's take another path, and maybe this could ring some bells inside the organizer's minds: They usually know which dj is well prepared and which is not. So for those who are not, this no stand option could very well work as a sort of "school" to them, sort of at least toning down ego trips.

PS: Because, vibe per vibe, if we extrapolate this reasoning, I think it would be really better a machine playing a proper set instead of a dj playing a bad one.
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Posted : Jun 14, 2004 21:21
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On 2004-06-12 18:03, Surrender wrote:
will u attend a party with no dj's whatsoever?
think of a party with music pumping being played (all premixed prefectly) with titles of the tracks flashing on a screen at each change over to let you know what's playing... nothing playing "out of time" - meaning - no morning music at night, no night music in the morning....
all happening from a big hard drive with losts of space for original wav files to be played that someone (or something) has predone.

would u come?




hehehe who mixed it??? u?? and who decide ehats night time and morning time? is there noon section too? i know what u meen but its the dj who decide where this trip go into... and good dj mix track that doesnt "pump up the party" so i'll go with dj's... or.. live SHOW not cd set will be the best for me..
DJAmanita
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Posted : Jun 14, 2004 23:05
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On 2004-06-14 00:52, Yuli wrote:
Got used for sure Ganti, but not necessary altogether - maybe after live act for sure is ok, but after DJ sets it hurts the flow and I think once ( long time ago ) there was no break when DJ changed, but maybe I am mistaken




You guys have a break when the dj is changed? What the hell for? That never happens here in the States. Its all about the music not the DJ. Go back to the old way.
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Posted : Jun 15, 2004 00:38
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On 2004-06-14 23:05, DJAmanita wrote:

You guys have a break when the dj is changed? What the hell for? That never happens here in the States. Its all about the music not the DJ. Go back to the old way.


i agree that a break is not needed BUT ive been to the states and i know that the parties i went to sure did have a break so....i guess i went to the wrong ones ...or maybe your off your face every party and hear the music going on(go ricky go ricky).....
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Posted : Jun 15, 2004 01:23
sometimes the break is nice, it gets you excited about what is coming now, tells you the storyteller is changing and so is the story.
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Janux
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Posted : Jun 15, 2004 10:27

I dont really like the idea...

but if it happened I would go to check it out, as an experiment. might be interesting to see how people interact when they stop giving so much of their attention to the DJ (to the ones who do give attention)

don't like the idea because it takes away more of the human element from this already extremely technological situation. To me the human touch is the most important thing because its what keeps this music, dance, and trance in line with its origins in older forms of tribal, medical, shamanistic, etc... trance.

A computer may mix it perfectly etc etc... but thats not the point...

I'd prefer a DJ play a prerecorded set, than a computer programmed set any day.
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Posted : Jun 15, 2004 15:49
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On 2004-06-15 10:27, Jehan wrote:
I'd prefer a DJ play a prerecorded set, than a computer programmed set any day.



so what's the diffrence?           "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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Posted : Jun 15, 2004 15:56
if u let that no dj party happen, the following events will finally occur in the new changed reality:

1. a no artist music concept (i smell some commercial record labels here )
2. a compartment party concept (construct small compartments or sections on the dancefloor, made for 1 person only, so u can lissen and dance as u feel like, with no watching, u dont need any1 do u? they all fuck yer trip, but then u hav other forms of psychedelic entertainment in your high tech new compartment equipped with 3d visuals, dancing partners n wierd trumpets)
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Janux
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Posted : Jun 15, 2004 16:21
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On 2004-06-15 15:49, Surrender wrote:
Quote:

On 2004-06-15 10:27, Jehan wrote:
I'd prefer a DJ play a prerecorded set, than a computer programmed set any day.



so what's the diffrence?




the difference is that atleast the pre-recorded set was done by a human... thus the human touch element is achieved....
the computer programmed set... even though done 'live' on the spot (more like dead on the spot) has no human element in it.           www.facebook.com/DjJanux
Dragongurl
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Posted : Jun 15, 2004 16:34
It is just a small idea, which doesnt mean that it will take over the way parties are done today. Chill guys!!

I wanna buy my ticket to this, sounds like fun I like novas' idea with the "find the DJ" game, hehehe

Personally for me its all about the music and I just respect the DJ for playing, but more respect goes to the artist themselves who made the track. And yes if it is pre-recorded it has to be done by a few of the DJ's who know what they are doing           :: Life can be as bitter as dragon tears
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Goblim
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Posted : Jun 15, 2004 16:57
Great idea
I think there should be more of this           Ut ameris, amabilis esto.
Surrender
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Posted : Jun 15, 2004 18:41
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On 2004-06-15 16:21, Jehan wrote:
the difference is that atleast the pre-recorded set was done by a human... thus the human touch element is achieved....
the computer programmed set... even though done 'live' on the spot (more like dead on the spot) has no human element in it.




but your problem was the human touch, there is no human touch in a premixed cd since the dj's "reading" of the crowd does not exist due to the fact that he cannot alter the course of his premixed set.... so in the end, why even have him there? so he can dance around like a rag-doll?           "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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Surrender
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Posted : Jun 15, 2004 18:43
and yes Dragongurl, it was just a silly idea i had from a dream i dreamt a few days ago and a brief conversation with TiMMY sparked this post.           "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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