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a NO DJ party concept

blueOrb
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Posted : Jun 13, 2004 16:33


keepin it simple ..... i need a dj ..... common the scene is already small ..... if our djs run out of gigs ..... we have got a problem then

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Yuli
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Posted : Jun 13, 2004 16:34
I am definitely for no DJ stand and definitely disagree with Shanti here - I think mostly these days when everyone is a DJ and DJing mostly is matter of EGO it can be nice for a party to make the DJ the most unimportant part of the event BUT I do think it has to be done live and not pre recorded           A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
Electronic Bungalow
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Posted : Jun 13, 2004 20:06
I've got to agree with Yuli, (despite I still think the machine could do it nicely, since the mix could even be prerecorded by any desired DJ, not necessarily his producer). And instead of one big set, there could be severall sets prrrecorded by differente djs. But this idea seems to raise some objections regarding the profession itself, and of course, there's the promotion issue here, how could one promote a Cheetah hd ?

So, the no stand idea seems more appropriate, as it solves the professional issue as well as the promotional one.

But it still falls short of elimiminating the inadequate choice of tracks for a specific hour, and bad technics (or none of it). This could only be solved by prerecording the set.

Quite complicated. Maybe the only real solution here would be to come out with a robotized organizer.

DiMiTry
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Posted : Jun 13, 2004 22:32
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On 2004-06-13 20:06, Electronic Bungalow wrote:
But it still falls short of elimiminating the inadequate choice of tracks for a specific hour, and bad technics (or none of it). This could only be solved by prerecording the set.



or you could just find better DJs.
GuyShanti
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Posted : Jun 13, 2004 23:52
The problem today is that too many djs think that playing parties is like being in a competition... instead of creating a good vibe and creating a flow with the other djs and fill ppl with energy. i still think that a good dj that reads the dancefloor and knows how to play with the dancers in real time is ten times better then a machine mixer and no matter how well it mixes...

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Yuli
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Posted : Jun 13, 2004 23:59
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But it still falls short of elimiminating the inadequate choice of tracks for a specific hour, and bad technics (or none of it). This could only be solved by prerecording the set.



Well I think the No stand solves the problem at least from the side of a DJ that wants to show off nu tunes and how he can 'kill' the crowd.. Since no one sees the killa DJ, it doesnt really matter - and btw there wont be any stop in the music in this party for the stupid clapping part           A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
GuyShanti
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Posted : Jun 14, 2004 00:05
Yuli u dont like ppl clapping? i thought u'd get used to it by noiw...

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Yuli
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Posted : Jun 14, 2004 00:52
Got used for sure Ganti, but not necessary altogether - maybe after live act for sure is ok, but after DJ sets it hurts the flow and I think once ( long time ago ) there was no break when DJ changed, but maybe I am mistaken           A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
vikuna29
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Posted : Jun 14, 2004 08:28
Yooo... This is an interesting development...
3 points:

1) pre-recorded vs live?? come on... where's the skill in that?? part of the thrill of going to an insane party is hearing the level of experience, skill, ability, smoothness, different mixing styles, and energy levels that the dj can provide... pre-recorded could have great track selection, but fucking boooooooring!!!! the other problem with that is that if one day you enjoy the track selection and another day you don't how do you know the difference unless someone puts some sort of label to it...

2) sure dj's love their god-like moments on stage, especially if they worked hard and provide the audience an original style/mixing technique/buildup/flow/idea/etc. Nevertheless, the dj can be hidden and he/she will still hear the people clapping and yelling!!! so he will still get his adrenaline shot...

lastly and most importantly!!!!
3)there will need to be some sort of attraction.. psychedelic visuals on a screen together 4 amazingly sexy lady tigers wearing nothing but fluorescent thongs grooving to beat... or something along these lines!!!


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shahar
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Posted : Jun 14, 2004 09:35
I wouldn't come.

All the idea of a party to me is based on energy flowing around, and one of the main tools for getting the energy to flow is a DJ.

How can you completely pre-read your audience completely? How can you completely pre-flow with them? How can you pre-surprise them?

The fact that this is even thought about says something about parties today where DJs with their huge egos and big names become an obstacle to the party instead of the catalizator for it.

Jorg once told me how he made a party for deaf children from a deaf institute in India. He told me how he took each kid and put his hand on the speaker so he could feel the bass strongly, took the hands and moved them over the cables all the way to the DATS, took the hands and put them on his heart and then took them back to the dancefloor. It was a great party he said.

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GetAfix
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Posted : Jun 14, 2004 17:12
The computer starting to replace human again...
it's like going on rock consert and listening to a CD playin'... it's not the same.
live apperience is the real exeperience!
Insomniac
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Posted : Jun 14, 2004 17:21
I agree with GetAfix, why people allways try to replace humans with machines, i know we look for perfection, but unfortunally we are not perfect.
IMO the machine could never read the ppl, only a human can play with emotions in a dancefloor.
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Posted : Jun 14, 2004 17:33
Quote:

On 2004-06-14 17:12, GetAfix wrote:
The computer starting to replace human again...
it's like going on rock consert and listening to a CD playin'... it's not the same.
live apperience is the real exeperience!




about as real a as a dj/artist pressing spacebar on his software application or playing a pre-mixed cd at a "live" show...
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Posted : Jun 14, 2004 17:36
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On 2004-06-14 09:35, shahar wrote:

The fact that this is even thought about says something about parties today where DJs with their huge egos and big names become an obstacle to the party instead of the catalizator for it.



you hit the nail on the head my friend... that was the original stem of this idea. i really see/feel its become an ego contest that does not regard the good of the party but instead the good of the self (dj's ego).

A major problem in America.
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Posted : Jun 14, 2004 18:05
...ok, next is the party with no dj, no live and no ppl on the floor...

..is called "no-party"...
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