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psylady37
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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 20:43
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nuf with the 'fake users' defense. what is fake and what is genuine and who decides the parameters of these catagories? again, no need for one-upmanship; this isnt a contest -- we are simply having a conversation about something we both witnessed/experienced.
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in thinking about it some more, u r correct about one thing: perhaps i should choose my parties more carefully so i "know what to expect"...and this is presicely the point: can we agree that authorized parties often have traces of commercialism and renegade desert/forest events run the risk of being shutdown? if so, then a question we might ask ourselves is: Toward which one do we prefer to place our Energies?
[or, in other words: who can say if a 3000 person (authorized) event with a questionable vibe springing from, among other things, a heavy/nasty police presence but nonetheless a terrrrific sound system, a comfortable camping area, lots of cold draft beer and a bunch of international acts playing 1.5 hour sets is qualitatively better than a (non-licensed) 550 person party with cold but canned [!] beer, a chillout tent but no other shaded camping areas, a good but not 'internAtional' quality soundsystem, and one foreign act and many local dj's each sPinning for 3 hours at a time??]
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Oran
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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 20:50
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On 2008-06-11 20:43, psylady37 wrote:
nuf with the 'fake users' defense. what is fake and what is genuine and who decides the parameters of these catagories? again, no need for one-upmanship
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Your last argument was that i and others are writing good reviews to moksha cause we are dj's or just have other interest, you could do that cause we are known and not hiding, we dont know who you are and dont know what your real motives are this is not a defense just a fair game.
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i'm not a dj a party orgenizer or even a partygoer, i wonder where you brought that from?
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Yuli
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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 21:31
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@ psylady37
If the last words of the last paragraph you have written, were your first words in this thread, I believe there was no problem at all. When one comes to an authorized party with several thousands attendants, it is obvious there will be police inside. The way the police chooses to look for drug traffic is their own, and I don't think they ask permission from the organization for the way they want to use at given time.. So any way that you choose to blame the organization for that, is lame never mind how good your English is.
@ Mad_Scientist
Hey man I didn't pay for a ticket. And I still have an opinion. And if it was a shit party then I would say so. And I tell you another thing - If I was caught with the piece of hash that was in my pocket ( and I don't even smoke what a joke ) by police, the only person I could yell at would be myself. We are grown people, we take risks sometimes and sometimes we get caught. Just unlike grown man, many of us when get caught, become cry babies and blame all the world and his sister for what happened, but forget it was our own mistake that led us into that situation.
End of story
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shahar
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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 21:53
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On 2008-06-11 20:43, psylady37 wrote:
nuf with the 'fake users' defense. what is fake and what is genuine and who decides the parameters of these catagories?
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It's not a defense, and it's not about fake or genuine- it's about not hiding (I choose my words carefully). You were talking about hidden agendas, while choosing to hide your regular forum identity- don't you see the problem in that?
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in thinking about it some more, u r correct about one thing: perhaps i should choose my parties more carefully so i "know what to expect"...and this is presicely the point: can we agree that authorized parties often have traces of commercialism and renegade desert/forest events run the risk of being shutdown?
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Of course. I think that is what lies in the basis of most of the responses you (and others who wrote in the same vein) got. It was totally clear that this kind of event must be more commercial (though the extent can differ- Doof is a good example, I think of keeping it as close as possible to the underground in a big event, and Moksha's Rosh Hashana event had more commercial feel to it than this one). Hence, my (and others) feeling that people here are slandering Moksha. Accusing them of not fitting to a standard they never intended to fit to.
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if so, then a question we might ask ourselves is: Toward which one do we prefer to place our Energies?
[or, in other words: who can say if a 3000 person (authorized) event with a questionable vibe springing from, among other things, a heavy/nasty police presence but nonetheless a terrrrific sound system, a comfortable camping area, lots of cold draft beer and a bunch of international acts playing 1.5 hour sets is qualitatively better than a (non-licensed) 550 person party with cold but canned [!] beer, a chillout tent but no other shaded camping areas, a good but not 'internAtional' quality soundsystem, and one foreign act and many local dj's each sPinning for 3 hours at a time??]
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That's a good question and not a simple one. Personally I would love to have both. I would love to have all and everything. I like diversity and there are advantages and disadvantages to all kinds of events. And in all events I come to have fun and do my best so it happens (which means try to dance as much as possible).
Maybe you'd like to read what I wrote here: http://forum.isratrance.com/very-good-article/ (there's quite a lot of it, I'm afraid, might surprise you, though...).
And here's another thread that is relevant and interesting: http://forum.isratrance.com/my-little-manifest-regarding-scene-discussions/
Also I recommend you listen to the show our own PinkE made about nostalgia and were-the-old-days-parties-better. I also speak there, along with Asher Haviv, Sagiv from Moksha, Borris from the 3rd Empire, Zirkin from Doof, Gidi Hovek Olam and others with a lot of perspective on things. I think that there are many interesting insights there. It's also funny  (It's supposed to be somewhere here: http://www.106fm.co.il/, though I never manage to find anything on that site- maybe she can help? I also remind you miss PinkE that I offered to put it for download @ isratrance!!!).
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outdoor79
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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 22:00
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yep yep.. oran and yuli and rehi (med scientist) we all brothers.. this discation had lost is point long pages ago..
give it some rest and move on!
it the perfect time to lock this topic..
c you all in the next rave!
till then...
BOOOOOOOOOOOM on you all
Never give up on your love ..
nature raves forever!!!
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Mad_Scientist
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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 22:10
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On 2008-06-11 22:00, outdoor79 wrote:
yep yep.. oran and yuli and rehi (med scientist) we all brothers.. this discation had lost is point long pages ago..
give it some rest and move on!
it the perfect time to lock this topic..
c you all in the next rave!
till then...
BOOOOOOOOOOOM on you all
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english please?????????????????????
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Yuli im sure that the prod made everything to make you feel comfortable at the fest whenever they could and would not let you get caught by the pigs...c'mon please just agree with me that your point of view is not objective.
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for those of you blaming me about my agendas... like i said my anger is with prods who are SELLING their crowd (who is paying to get in) (then paying 2nd time with their asses) to the cops to make a big "authorized" event..do you think the cops dont have their own agendas when approving those events? |
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Yuli
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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 23:26
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for those of you blaming me about my agendas... like i said my anger is with prods who are SELLING their crowd (who is paying to get in) (then paying 2nd time with their asses) to the cops to make a big "authorized" event..do you think the cops dont have their own agendas when approving those events?
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Dude...
Just DON'T COME then it's simple..
Do yourself a favor and all of us actually and stay at home or just go to some underground friends party and listen to local dj's and have a good time!!
YOU chose to come to authorized party WTF is your problem???
As your answer to Tzahi it seems to me that it is YOU that have problem with Engrish since you just can't get the simple fact that every one of the crowd there knew that there will be police @ the event!!
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Yuli
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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 23:29
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On 2008-06-11 22:10, Mad_Scientist wrote:
Yuli im sure that the prod made everything to make you feel comfortable at the fest whenever they could and would not let you get caught by the pigs...c'mon please just agree with me that your point of view is not objective.
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Yeah I heard ya.. Not only that there were 2 18 year old girls with big boobs that were helping me with my prostate, and with the beer.
If you think that the organizers of this big event have the time to pamper me and give me good time then you either think too much of me ( THANKS ) or you think too much of the organization.
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Shahar Indepth
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Posted : Jun 12, 2008 04:03
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Yuli im sure that the prod made everything to make you feel comfortable at the fest whenever they could and would not let you get caught by the pigs...c'mon please just agree with me that your point of view is not objective.
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BIG LOL
sorry...i couldnt resist 
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psychild
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Posted : Jun 12, 2008 07:01
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Small question, doesn't comercial mean doing something with a purpose of making money? I really don't think this festival was done like that. Otherwise the production could cut costs on a lot of things like line up, sound, location and confiscate all water and drink at the entrance which they didn;t do. Think about it. Yes it was authorized by police and police have their own demands. Come on, you didn't really think you'd go to a party in a national garden and not meet the boys in blue? If you did, you're naive.
P.S. I have no connection with Moksha or any gain from supporting them whatsoever.
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Brain_Storm
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Posted : Jun 12, 2008 11:20
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On 2008-06-10 14:04, Brain_Storm wrote:
No words to describe the feelings i had in this party.
the Younger Brother set - I had goose bubps all over  , the Time Rmx of Pink floyd was surprisingly good.. 
The morning was also amazing starting with a guy from Moksha, avi I things his name is who played a lot of twisted stuff anda few tristan and cosmosis tracks, followed by Total Eclipse who blasted with excellent music  and ovcourse the one and only Benji with his Prometheous set ... Un-Fu**ing-belivable!!!!!!
Great Job Moksha, see u again in Rosh-Ha'Shana 
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hello man, the person who played from 9:00-10:30 is me omri not avi, i am happy u enjoed the set
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Sorry man for getting the name wrong. 
Respect for that set once again 
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kobi-(LOUD)
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Posted : Jun 12, 2008 14:04
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Well i didnt read the all msg on this one but imo
moksha made it BIG time and thank you for that ....
and about all the bitches here that is complaning
do us all a favor and stay home next time !!!.
Moksha thank you for a magor event
Massvie Respect !!!
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ori_k
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Posted : Jun 12, 2008 15:20
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On 2008-06-10 17:07, Pink_Bubbles wrote:
underground for me is the divine vibes at the party. not everybody know how to ride it. this is the real underground, the ppl who communicate through it
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smartest post in this thread
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about moksha..i think we can all agree that they have better things to do at a party then come dance with the rest of us, like standing on stage smiling and looking at us from above..sending junior staff members to fetch their artists some drugs to do at that "exclusive v.i.p tent" of theirs 
somehow i remember at t.a.z festival the crowd&artists were playing frisbee together hehe
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amotz_T
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Posted : Jun 12, 2008 18:52
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about moksha..i think we can all agree that they have better things to do at a party then come dance with the rest of us, like standing on stage smiling and looking at us from above..sending junior staff members to fetch their artists some drugs to do at that "exclusive v.i.p tent" of theirs
somehow i remember at t.a.z festival the crowd&artists were playing frisbee together hehe
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o.m.g..you guys are crazy..where we at the same party? i remember most of the artist hanging around freely, dancing & walking around, waiting for somthing 2 eat like everybody else..so the artists had a tent back stage...so what..it is more than legit for some artists to have the a place to rest at b4 & after they play..what are you beaching about...
from reading the whole thred i ask my self are these ppl realy understand the meaning of producing this kind of event?!
anyway for all you ppl who had such a bad time in this party & have no respect for the ppl who orgenise it & for those who had a good time ..if you think you can do it better...than just do it..
you can talk the talk but you can you walk the walk???
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huda-g
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Posted : Jun 12, 2008 19:36
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On 2008-06-12 15:20, ori_k wrote:
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about moksha..i think we can all agree that they have better things to do at a party then come dance with the rest of us, like standing on stage smiling and looking at us from above..sending junior staff members to fetch their artists some drugs to do at that "exclusive v.i.p tent" of theirs
somehow i remember at t.a.z festival the crowd&artists were playing frisbee together hehe
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yes we all so hed e jacuzi with 5 pleyboy babs giving blowjobs to each artist befor the gig.
i strongly sugest u to reduce the amount of drugs u take man..
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