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6-7/6 10 years of Moksha @ Ganey Huga

shahar
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Jun 10, 2008 18:45
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On 2008-06-10 12:35, Mad_Scientist wrote:

c'mon man dont be naive



I think I might be too old to be naive, but thanks for the compliment

But if we're talking about naive, then don't you think that to come to such a huge authorized event in Ganei Huga and complain that there is police there and that you were not warned about it is to be very very naive?

If you're doing something illegal you're breaking the law and there might be consequences to that. Be a grownup and realize that. Take responsibility for your actions, and don't blame others, especially not the event organizers who managed to make an event like that happen in the first place. For years we fought to have the right to have trance events happen in this country. The authorities are giving us that option in the last few years. And it's thanks to a lot of efforts and risks (and spending a lot of money) by organizations like Doof, Moksha, TAZ & others. 10 years ago mini festival like this or something like Doof or TAZ was a dream. However, the authorities will not give us the right to break the law, they can't do it and shouldn't do it. If you don't like the law, do something about it- you can campaign, you can voice your opinion, you can educate, you can run to the knesset. And yes, some will say you can use civil disobedience, but then again you have to be prepared to pay the price for breaking the law .

Over the years, I have observed that it is very typical of our community to complain and blame and do nothing else. I'm not saying you are that kind of person, as I don't know you. However, I do believe that if more people will do and not just talk, things can change. Moksha are people who do, and my hat is raised for them for that.

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djfool


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Posted : Jun 10, 2008 18:50
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On 2008-06-08 18:05, igoman wrote:
Great party for me!!!
When I say party, i mean: Great music, Great sunny day and cool water to chill by, lots of friends and good people.

When i came to the party, there was only one policeman on the enterance and they didn't search for drugs, only for glass.
I did see the police on the area but it seemed they didn't bother the people too much. If you smoke or deal in the face of the police, ofcourse they gonna react - its their job!!! Be smart and do your business in the tent!!!

for the music: Shemesh opend the party for me with the music i love - Shemesh you rock, hope for the same on the next one!
Younger brother made me fly. Emok woke me up with blasting tunes, could not stop dancing. Sensient and Peter D (peter - you are king, stayed on the dance floor till the end to dig with us) were great. Lish with an outstanding preformance and killer set - the best!!! after Lish went to rest (Heard Haltya and Psysex were good but its not my cup of tea music). Came back for Total Eclipse and Benji again - made me hover from joy!!! Then went to rest until king ATMOS. The set I was waiting for since TAZ. Was not a disappointment - awosome music and vibes!!!
Ketamind was just an excuse to stay on the dancefloor and dig some more. Thank you Moksha for bringing this wonderful artists for us to enjoy!!!
My trash bag was not stolen and i did get my 20 Shekels back. I can only imagine what could have happend if they didn't give us the bag to clean our S@@T - mountains of Trash. This way, every one who left, took his stuff and left his radius clean. Great idea to keep the area clean. I would have clean the area even with my own trash bags but there are people that only 20 Shekels will make them clean... too bad!
All the people who are talking about how this production thinks only about making money are wrong - to make this kind of event cost a lot of money and takes a lot of hard work! If whe people of this production made a profit, I'm cool with that because they made me happy! and don't think i'm bribed - I payed for my ticket and so everyone i know!!!
Happy SHAVUOT!!!
p.s HOT HOT HOT girls everywhere I looked - DELICIOUS!!!!



Wow, Great party indeed!!!
animalas


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Posted : Jun 10, 2008 20:43
respect, respect, respect!!!
WOW! great event!
international level.

i'm not part of moksha pro. but i cant read this shit...
for the ppl that saing bad thing, when u looking for bad things, u always can find...
u r jealous...
"money party"?! 180 shekel (35 euro) for this festival its like nothing.
don't go to festivals in europ, they making money...
way to "open eyes"? did u put your big money to bring these artist, deco, place, security and more?
this is 10 years production, not a one year pro.
atmos, sensient, total eclipse, Haltya,emok PrometheusYounger brother, lish...
for some ppl here its usual to get this in one place.
"more garbage can"?! what the f..k?! i left the area around 18:00, it was clean like nothing happened there.
about the sound, its true...(it was quietly).

but israelis like israelis, always complain instead say: "THANK YOU".
u dont care that ppl working hard to get this
result, u care that they "taking your money".
respect games...

again,
great festival.
thanks moksha pro.
waiting for the next one

          Yotam - Kabukim
It's all illusion!
gabs


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Posted : Jun 10, 2008 21:33
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On 2008-06-10 17:14, huda-g wrote:
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On 2008-06-08 11:10, psylady37 wrote:


NEXt: what is the deal with Moksha and the POlice? Fuckin A- where r we living- in North Korea (which might, for all we know, be a great place). Saw busts going on all night. Had a #!*@^ undercover cop - who was dressed up like a junky, dirty glasses and all- and another clothed cop visit my tent neighborhood with a sniffer dog. What the fuck is that>? For some reason, this only occured at night and sure as shit left a pretty nasty vibe in its wake... AFter the dogs etc left [we were among the lucky ones-- they found nothing] another group of fat fuck undercovers came by as well - Trrrrerrific vibe and of course more fuel for the stories going around that Moksha are in fact working with some of the law enforcement authorities.... i.e. the police(hmmm???)




not quit true..
actualy we are from a secret society called THE ILUMINATI (free massons) and
we intend to rule the world thrue making partys and brainwash the ppl with hidden messages in the sound and vj (and ofcurse take their money and become filthy rich)

man.. how did u expose us pfff..
smart one!

next stop IRAN! (we intend to make a party in teheran then after it to take controll over the oil fields!




lol!! strong one yuda....
Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 00:45
i wasnt there so cant say shit about the party BUT 180 shekel for this kind of lineup is FAIR!

be happy people.

Cheers           "....or is it???"

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www.myspace.com/thenomolos
omka
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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 10:19
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On 2008-06-10 14:04, Brain_Storm wrote:
No words to describe the feelings i had in this party.
the Younger Brother set - I had goose bubps all over , the Time Rmx of Pink floyd was surprisingly good..

The morning was also amazing starting with a guy from Moksha, avi I things his name is who played a lot of twisted stuff anda few tristan and cosmosis tracks, followed by Total Eclipse who blasted with excellent music and ovcourse the one and only Benji with his Prometheous set ... Un-Fu**ing-belivable!!!!!!

Great Job Moksha, see u again in Rosh-Ha'Shana


hello man, the person who played from 9:00-10:30 is me omri not avi, i am happy u enjoed the set
peace
outdoor79
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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 10:21
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On 2008-06-11 10:19, omka wrote:
Quote:

On 2008-06-10 14:04, Brain_Storm wrote:
No words to describe the feelings i had in this party.
the Younger Brother set - I had goose bubps all over , the Time Rmx of Pink floyd was surprisingly good..

The morning was also amazing starting with a guy from Moksha, avi I things his name is who played a lot of twisted stuff anda few tristan and cosmosis tracks, followed by Total Eclipse who blasted with excellent music and ovcourse the one and only Benji with his Prometheous set ... Un-Fu**ing-belivable!!!!!!

Great Job Moksha, see u again in Rosh-Ha'Shana


hello man, the person who played from 9:00-10:30 is me omri not avi, i am happy u enjoed the set
peace



you're set was really good omri
i rocked my ass there ..
bOOM
           Never give up on your love ..
nature raves forever!!!

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Yotam(Paganka C.)
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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 10:52
Amazing event, very very impressive, I enjoyed alot from all the aspects... I think there were alot of good ppl and everyone came to digg and to chill with their friends at ganey huga the vibe was really really good, music was DAMN good with alot of diverse and totally quality acts one after another enjoyed all the sets I heard.

Thank u very much Sagiv, Huda, Omri, Yaniv, Yinon & all the other involved at this amazing experience, I had the best time.

Cheers,

Yotam.

.o00o. Paganka Crew @ 04/07/08 - C`ya There .o00o.





Pelinpala
Haltya

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Posts :  111
Posted : Jun 11, 2008 17:43
Awesome PA SYSTEM!!!!
Finaly enough BASS in the face!

Thanks everybody, and thanks moksha for the beer tap backstage!;)

nice place, good vibes, diverse sounds
psychild
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 18:42
Great festival!
Thank you Moksha for pulling this off. Me and my friends enjoyed digging on the dancefloor, splashing in the water and chilling out in the camping area. Realy enjoyed Total Eclipse's set in the morning.

To all the haters, look around you and check how many other events you have with this kind of line up, location, crowd and sound system here in Israel and the event wassn't plastered on every road intersection. You people should learn to express your opinion.
I personally have two pet peeves with the festival. One, the thing with the garbage bags: We payed 100NIS for the plastic, were left with two. The others were taken by the garbage crew. I suppose someone should've told them that people payed money for that trash. Second, we would've stayed later, except were afraid to be eaten by our stomach's. There was only one place to eat and that place hade only one cash register working!

That's all folks!           "Just as every skill is strengthened by practice, so is every bad habit made worse by repetition."
psylady37


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Posts :  14
Posted : Jun 11, 2008 18:58
Well:
seems that what was and wasnt said produced quite an active thread and that, in and of itself, appears to be a good thing.

* not to draw fire or attempt to settle any scores but only to clarify: although this be my 3rd post, i have quietly been 'active' within isratrance since the mid 90's but have never been prompted or felt the need to supplement any of the comments i read here. the all too rosy (and apparently biased - see comments below) words re Moksha's event were what caused me to offer my pov.

* perhaps a debate re. the current meaning and implications of commercialism/underground within the (israeli) psytrance scene might be initiated in another thread and prove educational for all of us.

* hierarchies aside, it is interesting to note that most of the people involved in posting positive (and often glorifying) comments re. past parties are in one way or another involved in their production or have a vested interest in lending a 'good' name to the israeli trance scene. For example: some of the key supportive posts in this thread were made by DJ's Yuli, Oran, Shachar, Huda-G, Punkass, K-pax, Huja boy and Gula k. Could this be a mere coincidence? & does this have anything at all to do with the suggestion that the party was constructed commercially? [btw- commercial parties also have their merits and can be quite enjoyable; all the more so when they are marketed for what they are. perhaps, the reality is that large psyevents and the notion of 'the underground' are no longer (or mayb never were) compatible].

* What am i -- or anyone else around the globe reading this -- supposed to make of the comments made by Oran: "Belive me if i saw anyone there caught with drugs i whould be the 1st one to laugh in his face for being so fucking stupid...Shame on you," "you are the joke here."

Are these meant to teach me a lesson, or an attempt to relay to your fans how cool you are, or simply your way of encouraging a healthy and open environment for online debates re psytrance culture? I am not sure which, but in any case, what you write is an exemplification of your motto["Always aggressive never progressive"] and may b an indication of why your latest party seemed to reek of a vibe i relate to as 'alpha-male'.

*also, and perhaps this subject matter is somewhat touchy for some of you but, nonetheless, your uncouth response solicits a question: what does that mean: i should have read the flyer which stated "entrance with drugs prohibited"? (R U Serious???!!!) &, to add insult to injury, you even put a "shame on you" in there.
What are you trying to imply>?> that your event was marketed/staged as a 'drug-free' environment? or, that if you saw someone getting busted that it is their fault since s/he should have known better than to bring drugs to a.... trance party>?? hmmmm. or do u intend to imply that [as gula-k so eloquently put it] going to trance parties is for grownups and thus it is obvious that if someone wants to use drugs at such an event they should know what and what not to do.
That idea seems relevant but also seems much more complicated when k-9s are roaming the land.

A quick reality check: lets not be so ridiculous as to think for a second that trance parties are drug free. If someone wants to argue that, then they can, but perhaps not on this forum (which i doubt is read by our parents or our gradeskool teachers). so simply put: cut the shit... we all know the score....
... no matter how you slice it [and even with the heroic efforts to continually stage these type of events]: a heavy police presence at a trance party [with or without the canines] is undesirable and in many ways defeats the purpose.

*tru tru: negativity is not a desirable trait in any discussion (or attempted recount) and yes the party had some very (very) positive aspects [for instance, the fact that it existed in the first place]. but, as someone wrote here earlier -- criticism encourages growth and understanding and is meant to be read, digested and, if at all possible, implemented in future events. what is to be gained by attacking the critic? would it be better if those who had nothing positive to say simply didn't say anything at all? i think that system of rule is generally referred to as fascism.

*with all that said (and not wanting to end on a less than sympathetic note): i Tip my hat to anyone who can contend with what goes in to making a party in israel (or elsewhere) and sincerely wish you guys the best of luk with future endeavors. Boom!
Mad_Scientist


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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 19:23
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On 2008-06-11 18:58, psylady37 wrote:
*also, and perhaps this subject matter is somewhat touchy for some of you but, nonetheless, your uncouth response solicits a question: what does that mean: i should have read the flyer which stated "entrance with drugs prohibited"? (R U Serious???!!!) &, to add insult to injury, you even put a "shame on you" in there.
What are you trying to imply>?> that your event was marketed/staged as a 'drug-free' environment? or, that if you saw someone getting busted that it is their fault since s/he should have known better than to bring drugs to a.... trance party>?? hmmmm. or do u intend to imply that [as gula-k so eloquently put it] going to trance parties is for grownups and thus it is obvious that if someone wants to use drugs at such an event they should know what and what not to do.
That idea seems relevant but also seems much more complicated when k-9s are roaming the land.

A quick reality check: lets not be so ridiculous as to think for a second that trance parties are drug free. If someone wants to argue that, then they can, but perhaps not on this forum (which i doubt is read by our parents or our gradeskool teachers). so simply put: cut the shit... we all know the score....
... no matter how you slice it [and even with the heroic efforts to continually stage these type of events]: a heavy police presence at a trance party [with or without the canines] is undesirable and in many ways defeats the purpose.






yes I find that very funny indeed...when i be hitting that chillum in the middle of the desert with my self-imported stuff from india the org come like flies and ask for a hit like it all good and we are friends...
Oran
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 19:38
Again you are bending the truth and half truth just so it will suit whatever point it is you are trying to make...

But although the nice english skills the only ones that will probably relate to it are the blood thirsty kids the fake users and the jealous ones...

Anyone with a few brain cells left in his head can see the real picture..           Always agressive never progressive.
shahar
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 20:12
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On 2008-06-11 18:58, psylady37 wrote:
...
it is interesting to note that most of the people involved in posting positive(and often glorifying) comments re. past parties are in one way or another involved in their production or have a vested interest in lending a 'good' name to the israeli trance scene. For example: some of the key supportive posts in this thread were made by DJ's Yuli, Oran, Shachar, Huda-G, Punkass, K-pax, Huja boy and Gula k. Could this be a mere coincidence?
...



Why insinuate? Please tell us what you think.

Because personally I feel quite offended. You don't know me (as far as I know, anyway, since you're still hiding), and you presume quite a lot about me. You insinuate that I have a commercial interest in Moksha getting good reviews, and hence I go and lie in this forum. That's not a nice thing to do to a person, especially one you don't know.

I just came to party and had good fun. And I had, like I wrote.

Again I can't help but feel that I encounter the same phenomena I wrote about in my previous post (one that also addressed the police issue quite well I think and was eloquently ignored)- talk is easy but when acts are involved, somehow things evaporate. If you're talking about the original underground trance movement and its spirit, the least you can do is take care to incorporate one of its basic ideals into your conduct- Respect.

Just think about it, please. This is not some anthropological/social phenomena you're dissecting here- there are people involved, and they have feelings. Minimum you should do is give them some credit before dissing them.
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"Be the change you want to see in the world!"
M.K. Gandhi

"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self."
Aldous Huxley

Mad_Scientist


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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 20:38
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On 2008-06-11 19:38, Oran wrote:
Again you are bending the truth and half truth just so it will suit whatever point it is you are trying to make...

But although the nice english skills the only ones that will probably relate to it are the blood thirsty kids the fake users and the jealous ones...

Anyone with a few brain cells left in his head can see the real picture..




I think the English skills prove the education level of those "kids"...
blood thirsty? the only thing I don't like is when productions give up their crowed to the police...


Quote:

On 2008-06-11 20:12, shahar wrote:

I just came to party and had good fun. And I had, like I wrote.



did you pay or did you get in for free? no need to answer that i think i know.
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