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432 Hz tuning: The Music of SUPERCONSCIOUSNESS

bukboy
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Posted : Dec 26, 2006 16:53
Shamantrix, what u have written is called ad hominem argument

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An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin, literally argument against the person), personal attack or you-too argument, involves replying to an argument or assertion by attacking the person presenting the argument or assertion rather than the argument itself. It is a logical fallacy.



U have made no succesful explanation for your claims, and although this is not against the law, no-one here, from your arguments, should come to any conclusions other than that u are incapable of logic yourself.

I do think that the only reason that u do this sort of attack is precisely becoz ur view is bogus. No offence intended.

I think simply based on ur statements no-one should listen to u. If u wish to refine your standpoint please do but dont resort to argumentation about the irrelevant.

P.S. Einstein was a man of logic. It seems amusing that he is used to defend mysticism.

Again no disrespect intended.
ohshit
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Posted : May 26, 2008 10:13
Very interesting!

from 432hz.org:

"The imposed 440Hz

In 1939 Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels dictated 440Hz as the standard tuning pitch. This to let people think and feel in a certain manner, and to keep them a prisoner of a certain consciousness. This in spite of that Professor Dussaut from the Paris Conservatory wrote a referendum that was signed by 23,000 French musicians who all were for the preservation of the A= 432Hz. Freedom of choice in bringing back the frequency of the earth is what it's all about today.

432Hz quality

Music on a basis tone of A=432Hz is more transparent, more marked, clearer, gives an obvious musical picture and the Overtones and undertones moves more freely and can multiply themselves more. Music based on 440Hz represents emotions and locks up the head. By lowering the pitch 440Hz - 8Hz to 432Hz, the music changes. Which first was painful to the ear changes into a beautiful, warm music whereby relaxation is natural. Overtones are decisive for the sound, this holds for instruments as well as the human voice. The piano tuned in A= 440Hz creates an artificial clarity and strengthens the high stress levels of today. The instruments on which Mozart and Verdi composed their masterpieces were in 432Hz -is the same as C=256Hz- pitched. The original Stadivarius violin was developed to resonate at 432Hz."




Here is a link more: http://www.schillerinstitute.org/music/rev_tuning_hist.html           http://soundcloud.com/alphadelphi
Boobytrip
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Posted : May 26, 2008 11:47
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Godwin's Law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies) is an adage formulated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states:
"As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

Maybe the human race will achieve superconsciousness by dropping the standard pitch by 8 cents, but i don't buy it. I do think it can be interesting to experiment with these things for sure, but don't expect miracles. Compared to learning how to write a good track, dropping the tuning by a few cents and reading a lot about it is easy, but will probably not lead to better music.

At a more practical level: What about dj's ? They have to pitch tracks sometimes to make things fit. Should they pitch all tracks down a bit to the few tracks that follow the 432 Hz 'line of reasoning' ? They could use master tempo, but then the bpm-to-pitch ratio will be all wrong (o oh...just imagine what will happen at the cosmic-new-age plane)
Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : May 26, 2008 12:20
Shamantrixx ur a legend thx for the most interesting thread i have seen in a long while           [[[G|L|I|T|C|H]]]
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http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/glitch-tales-from-the-script
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ohshit
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Posted : May 26, 2008 12:57
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On 2008-05-26 11:47, Boobytrip wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Godwin's Law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies) is an adage formulated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states:
"As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."


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psychowave
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Posted : May 26, 2008 18:51
In Ableton you have the Tone Frequency Option..default adjusted to 440Hz...

If I change to 432Hz I will get the -8Hz in all track and this theory be aplicable ?

If yes, that´s a easy method to try this theory, not?

Cheers
Natan
UnderTow


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Posted : May 26, 2008 20:38
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On 2008-05-26 10:13, ohshit wrote:
Very interesting!

from 432hz.org:



Not. One lame page by some totally unknown guy from Hengelo? Who cares?

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Here is a link more: http://www.schillerinstitute.org/music/rev_tuning_hist.html



That link shows the British agreed on the 440Hz tuning and that various tunings were in use in various parts of the world. There was no real consensus. (Thus no consensus on A=432Hz either).

Also that site is obviously biased. When one writes "The Anglo-Nazi agreement," it is quite clear that one has an agenda...

If Joseph Goebbels created a standard, at least he did something good in his life.

The French were against it but that makes sense: If all your instruments are tuned to 430Hz (or whatever) you don't want to buy a new instrument just to be able to play with everyone else at a different pitch. (Not all instruments can be re-tuned).

The thing that I find interesting in all this is the reason for increasing the pitch: Make the music brighter. Our orchestra is brighter than yours! A bit like a precursor to the loudness war. Lol.

People never change...

UnderTow
Psytracked
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Posted : May 26, 2008 22:19

I clicked upon this thread with interest as I have read some related material previously.

A lot of reading here, but unfortunately not worth it. My bad for be sucked in.

I do believe we should question everything (time permitting), in this case I find my self questioning shamantrixx's agenda........

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On 2006-12-18 16:22, shamantrixx wrote:


But it seems that the western "culture" is based mostly on ignorance and cares only about thing that can be sold of goods that can be harvested and again sold.




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Upavas
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Posted : May 26, 2008 22:27
A very interesting thread indeed.
When I was in Japan, I was told about that 8 hz frequency being the tune of earth and that the USA has changed this vibration and made it faster, around 14 hz instead of 8 hz wherever they could and that it is supposed to take conciousness away from people. I always thought of this as farfetched, until I came upon this thread and that number 8 popped up again. And it is interesting. When I go across the border from Canada to the USA everything starts feeling way more hectic. When I return to Canada the buzz goes down and I relax. Every time. My question is: How can that 440 tune be changed in FL Studio? I would like to check out the difference and am going to do so right now with Vanguard. Thank you for a very interesting post. And please don't worry about those who become personal... after all they are only human!



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Psytracked
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Posted : May 26, 2008 22:31
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On 2008-05-26 22:27, Upavas wrote:
A very interesting thread indeed.
When I was in Japan, I was told about that 8 hz frequency being the tune of earth and that the USA has changed this vibration and made it faster, around 14 hz instead of 8 hz wherever they could and that it is supposed to take conciousness away from people. I always thought of this as farfetched, until I came upon this thread and that number 8 popped up again. And it is interesting. When I go across the border from Canada to the USA everything starts feeling way more hectic. When I return to Canada the buzz goes down and I relax. Every time. My question is: How can that 440 tune be changed in FL Studio? I would like to check out the difference and am going to do so right now with Vanguard. Thank you for a very interesting post. And please don't worry about those who become personal... after all they are only human!








Who told you?           http://www.whatacunt.co.uk/
Upavas
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Posted : May 26, 2008 22:32
A friend called John John amongst others. Another friend called Keisuke.
          Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
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http://upavas.com
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : May 26, 2008 22:35
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On 2006-12-18 00:56, shamantrixx wrote:
Excellent links, tnx!

Does anybody know for some MIDI plug that can use SCALA tuning files in order to correct the pitch of notes before they enter a VSTi?




there is a thing in cubase called trackFX i dont know how useful it can be? it seems like it only has scales for u to choose from, but maybe u can set it how u want to....
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Psytracked
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Posted : May 26, 2008 22:35
so a couple of friends told you and you read something on the internet. Well it must be true then.

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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : May 26, 2008 22:50
isnt it all just about perception anyway?           [[[G|L|I|T|C|H]]]
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http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/glitch-tales-from-the-script
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http://soundcloud.com/user582143
Psytracked
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Posted : May 26, 2008 22:55
Perception?.....I would call it anti US and counter culture propaganda.           http://www.whatacunt.co.uk/
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