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4-22-06 / PsyTribe presents S.S.S.S/24 Hour Outdoor event Feat. ETNICA, EDOARDO, PENTA & MORE
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Mistress of Evil
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Posted : Apr 25, 2006 05:16
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On 2006-04-25 02:58, PsyDrama wrote:
They may act like ravers, and get a little too physical with the girls, but if you look at their faces while they are dancing - they totally get it and therefore I will not say anything bad about them.
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i'm sorry, i can't stand to look at their face, because they are so fucked off whatever drug they are taking that it makes me sick to my stomach, that and i'm too busy trying to ignore their constant comments and to keep their hands off me. do you know what it feels like to be stared at and treated like a piece of meat when all you are trying to do is dance to the music you love? sorry, but its pretty hard to ignore that behavior.
I encountered behavior that i would fully expect at a commercial club, but never at a psytrance party. that is part of the reason i love psytrance, usually i can dance freely and not worry about this kind of disrespect.
i give the organizers full props for their work with the party, it was a great turn out and i know they worked hard to pull it off, great job you guys 
I'm not trying to blame them for anything, i have nothing but love for them. I talked to many people who said this was pretty untypical of psytribe parties.
oh and, i'm not gonna limit this behavior to one particular nationality, thats not cool - the behavior came from many different groups...
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KINOUX
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Posted : Apr 25, 2006 05:17
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whatup Cali trance lovers, I've nerver said anything on any of the forums but I thought to my self y the hell not so here it is.( althought ive been a member for a while)
Ive actually been coming to the la scene since I was like 15, psytribe, greensector, s.o.v.(sound of vision), liquid grin, electric blue, ete. and some north cali parties.I enjoyed all the parties. U all probably seen me.
N E ways, damn, the S.S.S.S. party was fuking nice, I had a blast and so did all the people who I came with, no doubt.
First of all hands up to parus and penta with the dark twisted trance, hahaaaa shit
my style.
Parus had some stomping energy, they started out a little slow but it came to be very entertaing by half way of their set. Its definetely a little too minimal but I still was danncing.
Penta( ahhhhh the Russian Grim Reeper) my personal favrite and the highlight of the party for me. Damn his sounds are like knifes poking u. I seriously seriously went f*kin krazy when he played. I felt like young child at chucky cheese with uncontrolable euphoria. Hands up to him with great respect. Everything seemed minimal after his set, I guess thats what happens after the russian infects u.
I dint hear too much of Pleadians.
Etnica was kool, though it didn't meet my expectations of a psychedelic rush.
Eduardo and all the other djs kicked ass, saw some killer smiles on people.
Overall the music was pretty damn nice( especially u know who... PENTAAAAAAAAAAa)
I do agree upon some of the opinions about the whole NOS ballon, drunk fuks touching girls, candy raver blah blah blah... u know,
all of that stuff. I try to keep open(I really try hard) to evrything and stay neutral with all the criticism.BUT. People should respect others and give them their own space. NOS balloon!!! C,mon I heard bad stuff about that, im not down with that shit and I would love it to stop. Oooooo the candyravers hahhaha, they crack me up!! Well aslong as their having fun I guess its chill
but leaning on the speakers and the whistling
is annoying as hell. I try not to get too irritated and I force myself to have good laugh.
Well the conclusion is I had an killer time and Ill be thinking about that party for a loooooong long time. Psytribe, keep it going
on and on. We shall expanded the psychedelic world for everyone to have a taste of.Cant wait for may 12 and the 3 day party see u all
then.
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Jinsai
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Posted : Apr 25, 2006 05:32
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First off, I want to agree with everyone who said that the kids who were huffing dust off need to cut that shit out. That's really fucking lame, and it could be deadly... Much as it was for the vibe of the party.
Also, there's no need to get up on the stage in the dj booth and stumble around and make them pretend like they're not annoyed with you.
I'm also going to say that the whistle blowing was, is, and never shall be cool. It gets in the way of the music, which is why a lot of us are there.
All my complaints aside, it was a great party. It was good to see a lot of familiar faces. Major props to Dai, Spyros, and of course Etnica. Amazing sets. The morning music wasn't as much my thing, but that's all personal taste. I'm personally a little more into the dark and twisted stuff.
But enough with the disrespectful behavior. It makes me sad to hear that people were groping girls while they were trying to dance. Let's keep this scene the beautiful thing it has been please.
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*christine*
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Posted : Apr 25, 2006 05:51
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I encountered behavior that i would fully expect at a commercial club, but never at a psytrance party. that is part of the reason i love psytrance, usually i can dance freely and not worry about this kind of disrespect.
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Hey now...that's not true. It hasn't been that long we both would be grinning like idiots and dancing our buns off @ "commercial" psytrance parties like space 550 & DNA.
Then we found "our corner" & the love of the music was enough to get past the lameoids.
Hopefully you'll give the ranch another chance. True there are some retards, but this goes for almost any party I have been to, I think they just make everything a bit more interesting...As long as no one or equipment get's hurt. If someone is bothering (touching you) or fucking with other people or musical equipment tell the promotors. Don't let a few retards spoil that beautiful location with amazing music.
I noticed that if you start by doing something positive, that others will follow...
Sunday morning at the ranch is a perfect example of this, I picked up a garbage bag and started cleaning the bottles on the dancefloor. Almost instantly everyone, Brazilians included, were pitching in. We got 8 huge bags full in a short amount of time.
Be a light in the dark!
My review and pictures to come soon.
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*christine*
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Posted : Apr 25, 2006 08:51
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M.o.E.
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overall, i had a lot of fun at the LA party. for about 3 hours where i really enjoyed the music, and that was when penta and parus were playing.
etnica/pleadians...ehh, not my thing, but not too horroribly offensive.
the guy after was playing candy rave music, that was pretty afwul i must say.
then i met some guys that gave new meaning to the word 'e-tard'.
like megan, i am not to into the groopy guys. this reminds me of parties at the blue cube or 550...well, on the bright side - at least i did not smell any really bad cologne this time around(=
other than the weird guys, i got a nice vibe from the party. the sound was great! everyone seemed really positive. i noticed how at one point i could not stop smiling. it was really cool to finally to see the ranch, and hang out with both LA and SF peeps OUTDOORS!!!!
thank you psytribe!
c some of you in the mojave(=
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mantramandalamoon
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Posted : Apr 25, 2006 10:14
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first off, thanks to psytribe for throwin another great party! was there from the beginning of dai's set, which was incredible till about the end of spyros's set. i enjoyed every minute of it, was truly some great music ! (except for the whistling ofcourse inbetween..) the party had a goood vibe going except for people on dust off rampaging thru everyone and pushing them aside.. that really ruins the vibe.. however as usual, there were plenty of smiles, good vibes and positive people around, which made this another beautiful experience.. i still remember, i think it was in the middle of eduardo's set, the sun was shining on us all and everyone had their arms raised beckoning it to shine on =) saw alot of the usual smiling familiar faces too! hope to see everyone again soon naked tourist may 12th i cant wait! and 3 day festival.. wow psytribe !! thank u
booooooooooom shankar!
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PsyCore
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Posted : Apr 25, 2006 11:01
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hmmm... I like your words, Christine... If thats all it takes to get people to help clean up...
I wonder - if I buy some canned air... then make it very clear around sunrise that I am throwing it out without inhaling any...certain people will follow my example...
As for the gropers - I had to deal with one at the last Mojave party. It absolutely ruined the last few hours I was there, as I had to keep draggin this drugged-out sleazebag from grabbin any girl he saw... like he was hitting for the cycle - EVEN FAY!!
I did not see any at the party on Saturday, but I'm done letting it happen. Where I come from, you ask a girl before you do anything... and if the answer is NO, you take it as law. These events are as close to proper hedonism as I have ever seen, but as far as I have learned, you can do what you want AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH SOMEONE ELSE'S FUN, OR DAMAGE SOMEONE ELSES PROPERTY.
Oh, and as much as I hate to say it, people caught urinating on Brad's equipment should be asked (or maybe even forced) to leave. That is the most disrespectful thing I have ever seen or heard of. I thought the worst was when some retard thought it was proper to set his Gatorade bottle down on the CDJ that Davina (Sirius Isness) was using, AND THEN START GRINDING HER with Max standing right next to her... the nerve...
I can understand setting an example about trash cleanup - but proper etiquette as far as dealing with other people (whistles, groping) how do you set such an example?
Promoters... if it is your party, what sort of vigilantism - if any - would you allow? You guys/gals are doing enough work making the event happen, I cant expect you to keep everyone in check....
P.S. @M.o.E. Amanda - I hope I'm not the ETard you're referring to... *blush* |
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konflux
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Posted : Apr 25, 2006 12:51
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unforgettable experience it has been, indeed. the little cold and cloudiness didn't spoil the joy of party at the beautiful ranch. i actually enjoyed the extended sunrise, the clouds kept us feel for hours like it was still early morning time, not day time yet.
i definately enjoyed the music at the spectacular stereophonic party. great vibes yet different from everybody.
luckily for me i've managed to avoid most of unwanted encounters, weirdness and rudeness some peeps are talking about here. i was finding my spots all around the floor and didn't feel an urge to go right in the middle. i saw people have the BEST time of their life at some points. no one was looking like they were being tortured, only in a good way. 8)
spread the good word, people, and teach by example. and don't get hostile and don't alienate, we are all one kind. some of us are less educated about things that are obvious to others. let's exchange knowledge, maintain respectfulness, share experiences. hope the people to whom the above posts were addressed will give it a thought, if they come here to read about parties they enjoyed so much.
bom shankalom.
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Barakuda
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Posted : Apr 25, 2006 13:21
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Well that was a wierd PsyTribe party coming from me the promoter, I have to say, I have never seen so much disrespect at trance party in L.A.. It has definetly gotten out of hand at the ranch, the problem is simple from the year 2003 to 2004 lets say, PsyTribe & GreenSector parties at the ranch had an average of 400 - 600 people and those where mostly the people who you can call psytrancers who new somewhat the culture of our parties. then since 2005 it started to grow pretty rapidily and now in 2006 we are looking at an average of 1000 people if you count the two greenSector parties and the 1st psytribe party at the ranch this year. So this tells me that there is a new wave of people showing up at our parties for whatever reason, mostly word of mouth, because as far as promotion psytribe hardly does any, we barely pass out 500 flyers for our parties, send an e-mail to our mailing list, post it on isratrance, tribe, & on our website, so its not like we go to candy raves, brazilian BBQ's, or Barmitzva's to promote our parties, people just hear about these cool parties at the ranch, and come to experience it for themselves, unfortunately these people do not know shit about our music or culture, they just want an outlet to act like animals since they cannot act like that in normal society. So what do we do, I am not sure yet but I thinking. All I know is in 8 years I have never made a good chunk of change at a party, mostly losses, but my experiences throwing these events where so great that I never wanted to stop I always had fun and felt happy after every party. but After this event I made a good chunk of change finally!! and I am not happy and ask myself if I still want to promote these kind of parties, Ironic , dont you think. Being a security gaurd at my own party was not fun, I had to tell people over and over again not to dance on stage, not to lean on the speakers, not to climb naked on the truss, not to yell out drug names to try to deal them to people, Ive warned a few of those drug dealers to watch out, Ive tried to stop people from doing nitrus baloons you dont know how much I hate that. and last dont piss on the speakers, spyros ran after that dude with a metal pole, there is only so much you can take. After all this I was conteplating if I even want to throw the 3 day thing at the ranch and possibly cancelling it this may. but since that is not going to happen because, I love it so much that I cant give it up so easaly, we are going to have to change things a little bit at the ranch, we are going to have to bring proffessional security to throw the balloon inhailing, women groping, loud drug dealing motherf**kers out. The best part of the party this past weekend was between 3-5 on sunday afternoon when all the disrespectfull animals left, or maybe some of them where still there but where to tired to act like animals anymore, So maybe we have to enforce the laws in our parties to show this new wave of people how to behave, I think its the only way. We give nothing but our heart at these parties and want to make it enjoyable for everyone including ourselves. As far as the music goes I do not want to get into that kind of argument, there was no rave music playing whoever said that, was to close to the people with the wistles. The music that was being played at our party is called PsyTrance, edoardo played after Mauri and he played psyTrance that is being released on his label and stuff from other known psytrance labels. Anyways enough of that stupid sh*t., if you guys have ideas on how we can stop this stuff from happening let me know. I know its a problem. lets try to fix it. I am glad some of you guys felt the same and it was not just me. Dont let these people ruin our experience, we just need to do something about it, In our next party if someone is acting out of line you come get a promoter and he will get security and we will make security do something about it, I do not know of another way, also I think we need to give people notes on how to behave at a psytrance party and these notes have to be translated in Portoguise, hebrew, russian, japanese & english, to cover most ethnicities that come to our parties. See you at the next one... |
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spliffnik
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Posted : Apr 25, 2006 17:35
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Barakuda,
I really understand your position and respect how you are dealing with this current situation. I agree with your plan to hire security guards. I know many people here would cringe at the idea of security at a trance party (especially one outdoors), and ideally I would consider a peaceful party with no need for security to be infinitely better. But the fact is there is a need for security at this point, especially considering the number of people who come. I don't think the security will ruin the vibe at all, rather they would help protect the environment which we hold so dearly and have seen harmed by these disrespectful types. An important point is finding a cool security crew, because the thuggish types who are bouncers at big clubs would have the potential to take it upon themselves to go farther than just preventing disrespectful behavior.
For me and our friends in Tokyo we have come some time ago to the realization of the need for security at our mid to larger size parties. Sad but true. But we hire our friends who practice martial arts and a few of their dojo friends who also like to party, and they took shifts partying and doing security. Just the presence of them will keep many from acting rude. My case is specific but my point is that they were security guys who understood the trance culture and would be a part of the party, not just spectators. It was a good way to go for us.
I hope most people will understand your passion and intent and not be totally closed to this option....or maybe it's not such a big issue (hiring security) and people will agree with your idea. If you thought that is what needed to happen, I would put my faith in you that you are making the best judgement for the sake of all.
Either way keep it up, I hope I can come visit one of you guys' party soon.
Best wishes from Tokyo,
spliffnik
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koxboxer
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Hello to all U.s trancers:) Greeting from Greece, and many hugs to my buddys Andy and Spyro:) Its Zafiri(jeff) dude!!! I'm so happy that the party went well and the majority of the people had fun, but these sour apples that pissed on the party are just obsticles that can easily be removed. As long as you take action right away as I see that Barakuda and spyro already have a plan, which is perfect timing. That was the problem with the party scene here in Greece also, but the organizers and promoters didn't even bother to hire security for all the idiots that put a damper on the party, instead they put undercover security (which to me stood out like a fly in milk) and those dickheads were busting people for a joint or a pill. And slowly slowly the scene here was dying out. I'm sure for a fact that you guys will be able to sort out this problem. Its only minor if you solve it from the beginning. I miss you guys, and keep up the great work, your making many people happy from what I'm reading in the forums!!! Later guys, talk to you soon!! Hopefully I can come to a party in L.a again haven't been to one since Nov 2001. Peace to all and keep up the good work!!! |
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Hidroponik
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Posted : Apr 25, 2006 19:23
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i like the idea of having friends do the security. one of the reasons being what you described spliffnik, having shifts. each person can walk around with a flashlight and a "Staff" or "Security" shirt with a walkie talkie so backup can be called in if necessary.
then chill and have fun at the party.
i honestly think that the regulars shouldn't have a problem because those of us who have been attending psytribe/green sector parties for 6 plus years understand that the times-they-are-a-changin and we also know how to behave ourselves or keep it in private back in our campgrounds.
we have had the blessings of no security at these parties because they were small, intimate, and easily controllable. now that the scene is growing, there has to be some kind of monitoring because people hear that there is no security and they act twice as stupid as they do in the clubs that have security.
its a balance. definitely a great post by you andy, you summed it up for a lot of us.
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sic_a_phant
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Posted : Apr 25, 2006 19:35
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Dai, I am really sorry for these people upsetting you, and polluting something that you love so much. For me this is the worst,most lamentable aspect of this unfortunate debacle.
It's a good question on how to change this, and better left for those more intelligent. Hold a sit down and run through some ideas, and implement some changes and see what works best. Trial and error. But remember to look in the mirror first, and judge yourself first. "Remove the board from your own eye before you pull the speck from your brothers"
Maybe I don't know and am not one to ask but I really liked the music for the most part. Spyros I really liked your set bro and it warmed my heart to see you again.
Dai, once again I applogize for those that upset you, because if they knew you they would be sorry for there actions. Dai don't ever loose heart! |
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green nun
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Posted : Apr 25, 2006 20:03
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i'm happy i didn't witness any of these events but upset for my friends.. we all have a responsibility when we bring people to this scene.. don't bring a..holes and disrespectful people and don't do at a party what you wouldn't do at your own home. after all, the ranch is someone's home. i agree with everyone about leading by example and not being intolerant and in turn psytribe will do what they can to make this more pleasurable for everyone.
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