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YSE - Releasing tracks without permission

Alias
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jul 6, 2007 23:16
popcorn?....fight? ....entertainment?

not for me!

why all this artists keeping the silence untill....someone open his mouth?

because they dont want open useless entertainment threads(isratrance as example)

very sad to see such things happend even to pro labels such zenon!           www.myspace.com/aliasix
xfalabella
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Posted : Jul 6, 2007 23:39
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On 2007-07-06 22:44, Jester Records wrote:
why don't you people sign contracts with the labels you release on ? and if you do, read them first !!!


be careful who you deal with.




said all

nowadays you have to be careful

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drooid
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 03:17
right on timmy

Quote:

On 2007-07-06 22:44, Jester Records wrote:
why don't you people sign contracts with the labels you release on ? and if you do, read them first !!!

be careful who you deal with.




The thing is here, with the original labels, we do sign contracts, and we do read them. I've been stiffed by YSE more than once, and i've never chosen to deal with them; so how am i meant to be careful? Its not as if i've been given a choice. be sure not to miss the point here.

These tracks just magically appear on YSE releases. I've had tracks sold on a third party basis to YSE. which means 1. YSE makes money, and 2. the original label MIGHT make money.

But in tims situation, tracks were released on YSE, from his label, and he cant even get in contact. they ripped it from a CD and compiled it on another to be sold for profit. Isn't this stealing?????

I've been done over because i'm not the type of person who googles my own name very often, but once a year i might, then find a couple of yse releases i'm on. its clear that NO ONE ever had any intention of telling me, therefore increasing their own profit margin. shame shame shame.

and i'm with mr.hanky here to a degree...
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On 2007-07-05 09:41, Mr.Hanky wrote:
but part of the blame here is on me by not shouting at the labels who licenesed the trax to YSE (be it iboga or whoever).



Only I think it REALLY SUCKS that you have to scream in the first place. to yse or primary label. To make it worse, people like Tim and i are tucked away down under in Oz, where alot of this is happenning in europe, we dont see or hear about it until its far too late.

i'm DEFINATELY going on the record to voice my distaste for YSE, they are vultures and hope they go balls up

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Bender B. Rodriguez
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 03:41
so why don`t the labels which licenses tracks to YSE sue them?           SPQR
timsensient
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 03:50
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On 2007-07-05 13:12, tv@oxygen wrote:

...guy called Michael Harris. This guy made his job perfectly, found the solution in 5 minutes, apologizes for the mistakes and also sent the payment!

So if you guys having troubles with YSE - get in touch with this guy, as he is the most profesional and responsible and we were able to deal pretty fast and easy.

His email is michael@centurymedia.net





Indeed this micheal guy fixed the problem, he replied quickly and assures me the money as been transfered. So i reccomend anyone else who feel they have been wronged by yse should contact this guy, maybe they will start to turn things around.

ps Thanks Tomas!
drooid
Sun Control Species

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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 05:29
sounds like some progress, good stuff

BUT the question still remains at least for me. These guys do what they want, and only *cough up* what we find out about and when asked for? Anyone ever heard of them volunteering to pay for a track?

how can they get away with it???           the FATLINE is ending www.myspace.com/suncontrolspecies
drooid
Sun Control Species

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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 05:43
p.s. if someone can explain in this thread something about how YSE works in a good light, please do. I dont like bagging them, just from my current perspective, they seem dodgy as.           the FATLINE is ending www.myspace.com/suncontrolspecies
Magox
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 06:14
Sounds pretty shady to me.

But if no one does anything about it, or something different than what has been done, it is only natural to expect the same things to continously happen.

It just seems wrong that the one's who are providing the product are the one's who are not getting compensated. Whether it's through miscommunication or just flat out stealing, it's wrong. I hope you guys get rewarded for your hard work, and i feel it's just a shame that someone is making money on your creation, and your not....

Hope things get resolved.

Do something about it!!






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mudpeople
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 13:17
man, its depressing (on one hand) to hear about all these labels doing shady deals...

On the other hand, there's still plenty of quality labels out there, so by no means is all lost! Keep positive and don't let bad experiences taint your opinions of the scene as a whole. It doesn't mean the entire trance world is gone to shit...

I wish all of you the best of luck resolving any issues, and hope that YSE will work to help...           .
full_on
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 14:34
YSE acts with bad faith, not answering their own costumers' and partners' messages.

If they were well intentioned they would contact you first instead of waiting to this topic to be opened.

Incredible how "magically" after a topic is opened they decided to answer... This demonstrate they were ignoring your previous messages on purpose, simply because they couldn't care less about you or the debts they had with you.

From the best of my knowledge they stink and I won't say good things about them even if they send me a copy of each CD on their catalogue, plus my money back, plus 2 hot Playmates willing to blow me. This is something called respect and these guys lost mine a long time ago.
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Wizack Twizack
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 19:01
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On 2007-07-07 14:34, full_on wrote:
From the best of my knowledge they stink and I won't say good things about them even if they send me a copy of each CD on their catalogue, plus my money back, plus 2 hot Playmates willing to blow me. This is something called respect and these guys lost mine a long time ago.
Respect!




hmmm (= i donno about that tho heehhe

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Psynaesthesian
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 23:09
i don't get it!! ... wat the hell's up with these YSE guys?? .. do they think that these amazing psy artists out there are a bunch of drugged up, uneducated, hippy losers with shit for brains and that they can get away with this low-life behaviour??

Just expressing my distaste for this unproffessional bussiness attitude!!
I hope I don't have to come accross these guys and the like, ever - as a client or customer!!

Like full-on says- RESPECT = u give and u will get it in return!!

My heart goes out to all the artists who have had to go through shit cos of these losers!!

B'om Shankara!!           "... b'om ..."
Xolvexs
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Posted : Jul 10, 2007 10:32
law rescues you only if you are as rich....i dont think YSE can do what it does to other artists with Skazi, Astrix or Infected Mushroom....they know they will get sued...but with others its okay cause they know they will only get bad rep in the community but their sales are mostly too those who are mostly just lookin for an introduction to psytrance.           When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive
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Posted : Jul 15, 2007 18:28
Same here,YSE rereleased 3 tracks of us,we saw it for the first time at Psyshop!

We had to make some noise to get the money for it,we got payed for 2 tracks,about the 3rd, we never saw the money .

Buttom line: read carfuly the lisence sector in the contracts u sign on!


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Kane
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Posted : Jul 16, 2007 11:44
Quote:

On 2007-07-07 13:17, mudpeople wrote:

It doesn't mean the entire trance world is gone to shit...




Plenty of people here need to hear that
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