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Yet another monitor thread: Dynaudio BM5a Mkii vs Adam A7x
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Upavas
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Posted : Mar 22, 2013 13:21
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On 2013-03-22 02:12, Ricciardo wrote:
its completly absurd that someone can state that a pair of monitors are better than others just because you "tested them on a store"
you need to known well the monitors and the enviroment were your listening, besides that, one thing is how a monitor sound in a store when is brand new... and how it sound effectivly in your studio
i am not going to claim which monitor is better than an other...
i am pretty sure that Dynaudio and Adam and a couple of other model´s are the best under 1000, and you have to expend about 3 times more to really, really go into a higher level
working with brands like barefoot and so on...
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The environment was actually pretty clean, I took 3 tracks, one classical, one psy trance and one ambient, and loaded them into my daw, I then made eq cuts, over several frequencies, and then lifted some frequencies up. I then rendered the endresult and burned it on a cd which I took into the store...
Given where I made those cuts, the Adams showed these cuts (notches) by far the cleanest and most audible. You could hear it best, I also ran genelec speakers with that same cd, they sucked even more. Given the way I checked those speakers out, I disagree with you, it was very clearly discernible which speakers worked best in giving back the changes I made to the respective mixes.
In that range the Adams by far beat the dynaudios, I could just hear the changes a lot clearer.
Barefoot monitors are in a completely different price range, I heard them in several movie mixing studios, and can attest that they do sound very precise, but to mention them in this thread is completely arbitrary, a different class altogether...
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Mar 22, 2013 17:02
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On 2013-03-22 13:21, Upavas wrote:
Barefoot monitors are in a completely different price range, I heard them in several movie mixing studios, and can attest that they do sound very precise, but to mention them in this thread is completely arbitrary, a different class altogether...
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exacly, and thats the reason why i mentioned...
because to be honest, between 1000 euros and 3000 the difference between monitors its barely noticed... its basicly a matter of taste actualy
there are low end monitors, mid range semi-pro monitors where you can find A7 and the Bm5a which are good models to have and they are fairly acurate...
and then, if you want to give a step ahead you will need to expend much more coin, and to have a serious room to that...
its like i said, your coment its completly absurd in away you praise adam and criticize the other brand which are in the same level, like they were rubish montiors
its completly ridiculous man
the Dynaudio monitors arent like some low end hi-fi pseudo monitors speakers you know?? your not talking about a monitor that is 300 euros pice...
you are talking about a brand that only makes high performance speakers, its their bisness for 30/40 years, and their cheapest line its the bm5a which cost 1000 and are fairly similar to its bigger brother Bm6a which is fanny many people say, they only sound louder and very close in translation.. which its definitly a strong point in dynaudio's
the twiter of the bm5a is made of silk, while the others in the range (most of them) are built with diferent material, the monitor it self it contains several technologies that makes it solid like a rock and turns it a very reliable product...
but then some guys like you just because you own a pair of an Adams and you are happy with it came with completly non-sense speach about a brand which is highly regarded as on of the best at this price range
and again, yout simply claim a pair "shit over other brand" just because you tryed 3 tracks on a store, thats just incredibly stupid...
you would need to have the monitors in your studio, own them... test them, make mistakes and discover things about them
you cant state a monitor is better than other on an enviroment that you canot possibly control or to know like you know your own production room
its like saying you known a formula 1 car is better than the other, just because you tested 2 at 30 miles per hour in the paddock
its simply unrealistic thought...
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willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 22, 2013 20:32
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dude. he described his experience, and if you read it all the way through he didn't exactly just walk into the store, say OMG I LIKE ADAM and buy them out of brand loyalty - he did testing and based his purchasing decision off what he heard.
What more can you ask for?
Also, what do you suggest people do? Most of us don't even have access to a store with these monitors to test them side by side...
I think *YOU* are completely ridiculous for making such a big deal out of someone's opinion. This thread is for talking about people's experience with the two monitors mentioned in the OP and other related monitors in the same price range.
Upavas is discussing exactly that and has a much more detailed experience than most of us - I simply ordered my Adams off the internet without even hearing them or other monitors because I don't have access to a good shop that carries everything.
Sure, you're not going to be able to hear everything about monitors instantly - it takes months to have your ears really adjust to them as far as I'm concerned....but to say that he can't make some technical judgement in his time there with multiple different source materials in a relatively clean environment with the monitors side by side is...very odd.
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Upavas
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Posted : Mar 22, 2013 21:16
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Mar 22, 2013 21:23
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On 2013-03-22 20:32, willsanquil wrote:
Sure, you're not going to be able to hear everything about monitors instantly - it takes months to have your ears really adjust to them as far as I'm concerned....
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so basicly you agree with me, i havent made any other point besides that
its very odd
and notice, i own a dynaudio bm5a for years, i known their cons and pros, and same time you dont see me here making points about it
i simply think that between this models, and genelec and perhaps focals, you can make a damn guess and chose the one you enjoy better
in the end what will really make diference is your room accoustics, and your earing perception
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Upavas
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Posted : Mar 22, 2013 21:27
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Mar 22, 2013 21:47
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On 2013-03-22 21:27, Upavas wrote:
so that's why you're shitting buckets, because I insulted your dynaudio monitors... lmao
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no, because you stated something completly exagerated without knowing what your talking about
if you really had the Dynaudios like i have, you wouldnt dare to criticize them over the Adams
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Upavas
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Posted : Mar 22, 2013 22:35
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Posted : Mar 23, 2013 00:32
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just can say go to a shop and hear them before you buy anything. i'd suggest to also test the eve and neumann monitors and maybe ks digital coax stuff.
when i had to decide between dynaudio and adam i'd go for dynaudio. because those adams have a slight hifi touch, which can be good or bad. i dont like it but its maybe closer to the system on which the general consumer would listen ... |
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willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 23, 2013 00:37
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hifi touch implies coloration or making the source material sound better than it is
is that what you mean? if so I completely disagree. a7x is brutally clear - you can hear all your fuckups and weak mixing.
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Fungophago
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Posted : Mar 23, 2013 00:56
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no i meant that the low end is much more present than on other systems. i guess its a matter of direct acoustic pressure caused by the bigger surface of bass reflex that you are exposed to.
i though a lot about this lately because i just got new speakers 
but maybe i'm just just confusing myself again - i'm a physicist so thats kinda my steady state condition...
they are completely linear in the data sheet thats true. |
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Posted : Apr 19, 2013 14:57
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On 2013-03-12 11:10:59, sAt0ri wrote:
Dynaudio BM5a Mkii vs Adam A7x
Anybody have any input that could swing me either way?
I don't have an opportunity to demo these side by side. I have heard the Adams and found the high end to be a bit bright. Haven't heard the dyns.
I havent really heard bad things about the dyns, maybe a phase issue with the crossover? T Adams have the port vibrating issue and I have also read that they can be a bit fatiguing.
I like the idea that the ports are on the front of the adams and the power switch and the volume, BUT I also like every review I've read on the dyns
Anyone got any first hand experience?
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I had the same question some months ago and i ended up going for the Adam mainly because i had the chance to test them before buying.
I think the issue is a matter of type of sound. My previous monitors were the Samson Rubicon so the tweeter sound was somehow familiar to me when moving to Adam. I know people who complain about this regarding the Adam (missing somee clarity in the low ends) but i dont agree...i thinks it's mainly because of the type of sound (really upfront and clear) you get from the tweeters. At school i work with Focal (which i find a bit similar to Dynaudio) and i always miss the same clarity in the mid/high frequencies that i get in the Adam, though sometimes it seems that the low frequencis carry more weight.
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