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Yet another 432hz thread
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Dec 29, 2013 17:58
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On 2013-12-29 17:18, TimeTraveller wrote:
nice!
4 me it would be interesting to know, if e.g. the vocalists like John Lennon also recorded their spirit to a 432Hz (beat/music) in their headphones or if just the audio stems were tuned later.
i lost any tiny doubts about it and belive it is 'better'  to try to achive this tunning/mood. Thanks for good links and pics!
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yeah, plus it's cool that adopting this doesn't in fact create a big difference, but a very subtle one. I think most people miss the fact that once you put everything together you can't judge as well as with some instruments in solo, in our own productions. I really dig the change it makes in the low end instruments, a subtle more "laid back" feeling, and slightly more bassy tone overall.
has someone verified the autenticity of this tests in the pictures? if this is true, then it's a big case for 432Hz tunning and a complete no brainer. you just can't make easy jokes in the presence of such compelling evidence, uh? |
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ansolas
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Posted : Dec 29, 2013 18:02
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*eLliSDee*
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On 2013-10-25 13:35, Nectarios wrote:
Yup. I might be fooling my self though. Is the only thing I need to do is to retune middle A to 432hz? Do I like the sample more cause there is slightly lower bass? Or do I need to look for a certain tuning table and off set each note by certain amounts?
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i have been shareing the same solution here in mulitple post but it seems to fall on death ears.
i wont put the links here this time.
here goes AGAIN:
download scala and the scales archive. Use scala and make a .scl file with one of the 1000+ tuning system.. pythagoras made some decent "just intonation" systems.
downlaod a .scl to .TUN convertion tool.
load the .tun file into albino3 (to do this click on the rob pipen logo and see the settings panel.
this will effectively divide octaves into "magical" intervals on your synth.
fyi.
"just intonation" results in way better harmonic flow in a key. you can see this visually comparing chords in wave to say equal temperament. take my word for it.
because simple ratios work best..
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ansolas
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Posted : Jan 3, 2014 12:35
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jan 3, 2014 12:56
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jan 3, 2014 13:24
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So which tuning table is it from the pop down ones in Logic? Pythagoras?
Guys, please don't get agitated, help a brother(s) out understanding.
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Colin OOOD
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Nectarios
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daark
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Posted : Jan 3, 2014 19:27
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I can see in the top of the menu: "software instrument pitch" i assume you can detune it to 432hz.
don't know if it will work for all third party VSTi but you can try if that is what you like. 
I guess you can just pitch down the whole waveform of the song and it will not suffer a really big quality loss for detuning it 31.194250239533226 cents down or 8hz(hope i got this right) if you were on 440hz tuning and thats it.
I still get freaking chills all over with great music at almost any quality on vinyl on mp3 on flac on wav on 360hz on 432hz on 440hz in any distance from the speaker and no matter how high i am . a great piece of music would make me shine even played through a freaking half broken transistor 
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jan 3, 2014 20:03
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Yes I can repitch all my soft synths in Logic with one go at Logic's master tuning, but apparently its not a matter of just off setting middle A by 8hz. Different intervals are involved. And off course my analogue hardware synths won't play along the different interval tuning.
And yes a good tune is a good tune at any tuning.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jan 4, 2014 02:41
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You need the Tobybear Microtuner then.
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plugin: It adds microtuning capabilities to
every VSTi and external synthesizer module,
as long as the target synth supports
receiving pitchbend on all MIDI channels.
I am not talking about changing a note
some cents up or down in pitch, no, you can
completely redefine the whole tuning scale,
allowing you to set an arbitrary frequency
separately for each MIDI note!
And it gets even better, it already has a
loader built in (with drag and drop GUI)
that can load the widely used Scala, VAZ
and Anamark tuning files directly! |
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ansolas
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Posted : Jan 4, 2014 03:17
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ansolas
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Jan 4, 2014 03:44
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On 2014-01-04 02:41, Colin OOOD wrote:
You need the Tobybear Microtuner then.
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| MicroTuner is yet another revolutionary
plugin: It adds microtuning capabilities to
every VSTi and external synthesizer module,
as long as the target synth supports
receiving pitchbend on all MIDI channels.
I am not talking about changing a note
some cents up or down in pitch, no, you can
completely redefine the whole tuning scale,
allowing you to set an arbitrary frequency
separately for each MIDI note!
And it gets even better, it already has a
loader built in (with drag and drop GUI)
that can load the widely used Scala, VAZ
and Anamark tuning files directly! |
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http://www.tobybear.de/p_midibag.html
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super! thanks!
EDIT
now we just need another good soul to make one of those files in scala for those of us who don't have it (namely me) |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jan 4, 2014 05:44
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On 2014-01-04 03:17, ansolas wrote:
But you cant play Chords when Pitch bends are involved
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One instance per voice; one chord note per instrument track. You'd need multiple instances but it would be relatively simple. Write your chords on one instance of the sound, and then separate them out onto individual tracks each with a copy of the same instrument, each playing a different monophonic line of the chord sequence and each one with a MicroTuner (or whatever). Bit cumbersome but it would work. I'd imagine you'd group the individual chord notes into a subgroup so you could process the chord as a whole, although it would also open up the option of treating each voice individually.
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