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why trancers are the best dancers?

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Posted : Mar 1, 2006 12:30
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On 2006-02-27 23:09, crovax wrote:
Trancers are the best dancers because trancers listens to the best music (with their entire soul) and eat (mucho) acid



hahaha..
odysseus
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Posted : Mar 1, 2006 12:46
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On 2006-03-01 11:26, KakoOlalaJwal wrote:
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On 2006-03-01 09:17, mindgames wrote:


01- My post seems to have disappeared!

02- My post was in support of Oddyseus but I want to clarify further that trancers are more in touch with their innerself while meditating through dance.




01- The forum has been restored from a back-up.. basta.

02- Explain please.. I'd like to know an idea of the percentage of trancers that are indeed "meditating" through dance.. I'm QUITE curious..

Yesterday, before the back-up I posted something about a guy I saw once who was dancing while picking up garbages on the floor, in a whole and natural movement.. I can develope if anybody is interessed..

But for now, I'd like to talk about Dance to explain a bit to Odysseus while I do really not agree with the formulation of his fake question..

You do surely know that Cinema is often called 7th Art, don't you ? Well, the original classification where this 'nickname' comes from was enclosing 6 forms of expression, it has been "written down" by Hegel around 1835 and was based on this formula : the more an artist is using concrete and tangible elements that in the end leave only a few 'space' left for the abstract elements like "emotions" and "feelings", the lower this form of Art will be placed in the classification..

Therefore he finally came to this classification :

01- Architecture
02- Sculpture
03- Painting
04- Dance
05- Musique
06- Poetry

(N.B. Architecture is here the lowest, hope you'll have understood that, odysseus..)

Now, if you're wondering why I'm writing all this, it is because with Art there is no secret, you just need two things : Talent and Perseverance

Perseverance means work, and work, and work, and work, continuous work to make the form of expression you have chosen to practise completely yours.. On that point I do seriously doubt that many trancers do practise their Dance on a daily basis all along the year to be ready for the summer festivals..

First thing..

And then, well don't take it bad, hmm.. But as far as I know Greece is not a big party place, I don't know about any "mythical" place in Athens like you can find some in London, Berlin or Zürich.. I mean places where the global Electronic Dance Music developped much before the hype made it overground.. So the comparison you made about Psychedelic and House parties and their crowd in Greece may be "true" for a spot located in longitude: 23.754239 and latitude: 37.987250 in the year 2006 but it is NO way true for the rest of Europe not so say the World..

Psytrancers are not the best dancers..





ok maybe u don"t beleive that & i respect that..

but when u write things about fake topics mr moderator u need also to write your proposal..
so who do u think from the dance scene are the best dancers ? house ppl? electro? techno? just tell us..!! i"m really curious..

as about greece u its all over the world well known that is a heavily trance country!!
maybe nowdays there are not mythical clubs in athens like alsos for example on 90s (a huge 4 stage trance club with 2000 ppl every saturday)but in thessaloniki the biggest city after athens there are many big trance parties in different clubs with many ppl 7 really great dancers and nice girls..

cheers






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KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Mar 1, 2006 12:59
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On 2006-03-01 12:06, crovax wrote:
Yes please



Well it was in reaction to the argument that trancers do mix-up dance and spirituality.. Which made me smile a lot, with no offence intented, ehm ehmm..

I wrote about that Guy, the only one that had "impressed" me in a Psychedelic Trance event.. He was doing something special : While he was dancing, he was picking up some garbage on the ground, including fag ends.. I was having the feeling that he was doing something like a "kata" because the whole was made in a natural, continuous movement, and the guy had often the eyes closed.. Each time his hands were touching the ground he was picking up something without even looking at it.. And when his hands were full, he was going near the stage to throw everything on the same pile, and back to the floor, going on with his "dance".. After a while a tall italian guy went to him and asked "why the fuck he was doing that" and told him "it's stoopid".. The guy remained calm and explained to him what he was doing, I was not far so I could hear a little bit, he even named it, but sorry i can't remember that name..A few minutes later, that italian guy was giving him some help, hehe, even if not in such a aesthetic way, the important was the utility of it..

I saw that once only, for several years of partying..


And I wonder how much of us would do the same.. hmm ?
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KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Mar 1, 2006 13:22
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On 2006-03-01 12:46, odysseus wrote:
as about greece u its all over the world well known that is a heavily trance country!!



I didn't want to lower down greece.. I was simply trying to explain that what can be true in a country that has linked up with the European Electronic Global Scene train, the locomotives being of course Germany and England, won't be in other places where the electronic music developped long before Techno became something "hyped" and where there was no such a division in the styles like today..

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On 2006-03-01 12:46, odysseus wrote:
but when u write things about fake topics mr moderator u need also to write your proposal..



Mr Moderator wrote that the formulation of your topic is fake.. Only that. Because in it you do affirmate that psytrancers ARE the best dancers and you would like this affirmation to be supported by simply asking "why is it so"..

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On 2006-03-01 12:46, odysseus wrote:
mr moderator u need also to write your proposal..
so who do u think from the dance scene are the best dancers ? house ppl? electro? techno? just tell us..!! i"m really curious..



I answered yesterday already before the back-up.. I have seen many good dancers in many different styles, but I'll go for the Drum'n'Bass like some other users did already.. Definitaly.. And I also wrote about the "real" Elektro (I mean when the tempo is given by the snare and not the kick in a 4:4 structure)
- click here for a sample :
http://www.nuloop.com/real/Datapunk/dtp01dvd_cd1_02.rm

On such Music, that since the beginning of my electronic music "life" I find the more "danceable".. I have seen a girl dancing on it in Germany, and I could have watched her for hours so much I was amazed.. But it was clear she was practising.


Voilą, so Drum'n'Bass and Elektro, Odysseus, even if there are of course "good" dancers in the Psychedelic Trance..
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odysseus
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Posted : Mar 1, 2006 13:49
i couldn"t open thefile to watch the dvd but in my country all the electro lovers are dancing like jerks..
personally i don"T like their movement ..
about drum n bass unfortunately there is no dance scene in my city so i can not express my opinion,..
as i told u greece is a heavily trance country ..!! no hipi hop dance scene, no drum n bass, no R.M.B,
TRANCE rules here
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KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Mar 1, 2006 14:00
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On 2006-03-01 13:49, odysseus wrote:
i couldn"t open thefile to watch the dvd but in my country all the electro lovers are dancing like jerks..



Try this then, because I'm pretty sure we're not using the word "Elektro" in the same meaning..
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF203058-01-02-02.mp3


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TrippyJohnny
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Posted : Mar 1, 2006 14:09
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On 2006-03-01 12:46, odysseus wrote:
so who do u think from the dance scene are the best dancers ? house ppl? electro? techno? just tell us..!! i"m really curious..



Does there have to be a scene that have better dancers than other scenes? Why not look at it as an individual thing where no scene are better than any other scene in anyway?

As I wrote in my post that dissapeared.

stereotypes, stereotypes, stereotypes.
Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
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Posted : Mar 1, 2006 15:10
HipHop(esp' breakdance) and Pop(Michael Jackson,Usher) dancers are way better!

WAY!!!!

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Posted : Mar 1, 2006 15:38
Now i see the person!

Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Mar 1, 2006 19:08

On 2006-02-27 14:13, odysseus wrote:
Why trancers are the best dancers?



You sure .. ? Who tald you that ?

I cant belive its true . I think that dance (And any dance)
Are coming from inside . When things are
coming to dance its includ of a many subjects , body
(language) , connection to the existence and entity
And the exemption .. (By open mind) and the
creativity of the persone (The dancer) So many
things are in .. I can write here a 2 pages i think ..

There is 1000 styles of musics and 1000000's form
of dance . Sometimes ppls that to much in the psy
act are inclined to forgot .
Forest dreams
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Posted : Mar 1, 2006 19:10
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On 2006-02-27 14:13, odysseus wrote:
after that i realize that trance ppl are much better dancers ..


I think trance people are best dancers only to trance music
there might be exceptions here...
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Skėlp
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Posted : Mar 1, 2006 23:38
Hi ppl, I guess that trancers are the best dancers in the electronic scene, along with the drum and bass guys, each one in their own special way.
But in general, i think the Samba dancers are simply the best!!
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Posted : Mar 2, 2006 02:29
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the comparison you made about Psychedelic and House parties and their crowd in Greece may be "true" for a spot located in longitude: 23.754239 and latitude: 37.987250 in the year 2006 but it is NO way true for the rest of Europe not so say the World..


So what is your conclusion about this...ehmmm 236575758430 and five inches spot on earth? Indeed in Greece "clubers" are taking lessons from trancers regarding free form blast dancing.
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Psytrancers are not the best dancers..


Yes they are. Cause they love psy trance without expecting psy trance to love them. Start working on it in where you live trancer...


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rich
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Posted : Mar 2, 2006 03:59
If you ask outsiders they will say psytrance dancers are the dumbest dancers cos they're all dancing the same. Like sheep. Take a look at any video clips of parties. Everybody's doing the same thing. And it's probably because nobody is hallucinating so they are still stuck in this reality and not creating one with their own movements.
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tim@motion


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Posted : Mar 2, 2006 11:32
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On 2006-03-02 03:59, rich wrote:
If you ask outsiders they will say psytrance dancers are the dumbest dancers cos they're all dancing the same. Like sheep. Take a look at any video clips of parties. Everybody's doing the same thing. And it's probably because nobody is hallucinating so they are still stuck in this reality and not creating one with their own movements.



Yeah right. If you ask outsiders they will also state that psy trance is stupid and trancers a bunch of losers who know shit about dance music. But reading some posts in here this doesn't surprise me at all. Maybe they are right afterall.           don't fuck with me
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