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why organizers don't do separation between the genres ?
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andrejcid
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Posted : Jan 31, 2003 12:12
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seperations in stiles is just rediculus! it narrows our capability of appriciating music since if parties were seperated we all would "specialise" in one stile only and accept nothing else. there are people like that now who can not accept anything else except for their "ideal" genre and artisis which deffinitely is not good. this music is being all about open mindedness and seperation would cause the reverse of it. and disrespect between people araises imo...
parties' seperation in music stiles might also mean a seperation of the trance scene as a whole and do we really want that?
i like power psy trance or to be more general - full on, but progressive trance for the bigining or the end of a party would be great for me, whereas progressive or full on all the way is something that i wouldnt stand to listen for a longer time.
imo a mixture in stiles is good for the brain and the body, and the vibes can be way beter
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Sound Surgeon
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Posted : Jan 31, 2003 12:26
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Personally, i really dont mind that the DJs will play psytechno. minimal full on or anything else they think of as long as the music will give me the adrenalin
i like most of the styles there is in trance, proggressive-full on-tech and some more, quality matters to me, not the style itself.
i prefer going to a party where there is a mixture of genres, jumping to full on 12 hours is kinda hard, but when u have division of styles in the party it is much better, there are people who go to sleep until their style is being played in the party (in the chill out zones, or in tents)
psydark : if you have problems with that kind of parties , make your own ones! you will decide what to put and which DJ to book!
if you have problems with "crap" music, make your own better one!
dont just talk "this is bad, that is bad", do something! make efforts to create something better that fits your taste...
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psydark_light
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Posted : Jan 31, 2003 12:55
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I'm a dj and I play both genres (full on and progressive) , and I like the both !
but I wonder what others think (not just u!)
this thread is for the idea , to see what people like !
as I said before (step backward the thread) , u wil notice I do like mixture!
but some people don't !
this thread is for all the people (as most of the threads ), not just for u and not just for me !
ASKING PEOPLE HERE FOR THEY THOUGHTS , IF THIS THREAD BAD FOR UR PLANS IN THE FUTURE ITS NOT MY PROBLEM !
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On 2003-01-31 12:26, Sound Surgeon wrote:
if you have problems with "crap" music, make your own better one!
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I'm not artist anymore , since I don't have time for that... but artists who want to release stuffs should make the effort , not me !
and what's wrong with tryig to make things better, and to give artist and labels and org advice and ideas !
don't try to be cynical (u really don't want it!)
what if everyone of us will think positive about peace ?
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Gilad Refael
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Posted : Jan 31, 2003 14:12
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mixed parties are good cause after a few hours everything is starting to look repeatitve.
i feel sometimes that even TRANCE is starting to be boring in one party all night long.
although i don't like mixed sets 
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Kaz
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Posted : Jan 31, 2003 15:44
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On 2003-01-31 12:55, psydark_light wrote:
I'm not artist anymore , since I don't have time for that... but artists who want to release stuffs should make the effort , not me !
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A DJ should make an effort. He can pick whatever music he wants, from whatever style he wants, and using his technique, he can do with any music he picks amazing stuff. I've heard a set using some of my favorite tracks and it sucked, while I heard a set with all kinds of esoteric minimal/prog things with tendancy towards house music (which I totally don't like), played from 11AM, and it was amazing.
The DJs tell the story. The organizers should select the DJs and organize them in an order that the entire party will have a story of it's own behind the music. It doesn't matter what style. For all I care, it could be someone looping 2Unlimited while playing Dark Soho during the sunrise, if it's part of the musical evolution of the party and it's done in a way that makes it special and fitting, then that's all good.
And btw, I believe that there are some DJs who know how to build a story in a very special way, and that's more important than just reading the crowd - it's knowing to do things the crowd might not immediately get but later thank you for them - Raja Ram, Peter Dijital, Tristan, Tsuyoshi... these guys do much more than just improvise and read the crowd, they're a step beyond that, even though each one of them does it in a completely different way.
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psydark_light
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Posted : Jan 31, 2003 16:19
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Kaz ,no doubt !
I also like to hear music and to find new stuffs and to be the first DJ who find it...
but I think this should be post in another thread.
anyway ,Tsuyoshi suzuki is one of my favorite DJs ever , after GOA GIL!
Gil is the best for me .
he know what to do with the crowd , there is no such a thing "complain" while he play! mostly because his set time is 3-4 hours even more.
he play mixture (more full on ) , but any of the tracks he play have great adrenalin and they fit one the other like a magic !
I can't find lots of djs doing that today , because every 1-2 hours comes another DJ and this cut the mood !
when they the DJs comes to the wrong place in the wrong time and cut one the other , the party have no magic anymore!
what if everyone of us will think positive about peace ?
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patrick
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Posted : Jan 31, 2003 18:25
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with all due respect psydark, goa gill doesnt play a mixture its pure psy or full-on, or he has changed dramatically his set in a year or two, the last time i saw him he played about 30 h nonstopp full-on... (and btw. his mix tecniques are really bad, but somehow this doesnt matter, he still catches the ppl)
as for the separation: i also like different music at a party, but imo the progressive and full-on are just too different to play it at the same party. nowadays i dont even care to go to parties where i know that some dj/artist play full-on. this music just doesnt do it for me anymore... and i know quite a lot of ppl which feel the same about progressive, so lets seperate in peace. |
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Kaz
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Posted : Jan 31, 2003 20:55
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Goa Gil is a perfect example of what I said - maybe his technique is horrible (he always says that he's not a DJ), but he just knows how to build a story. It doesn't matter what music he plays, it's how he plays it. BTW, Tristan does a brilliant mix between progressive and full-on in his sets, so it IS possible to mix the two.
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Basilisk
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Posted : Jan 31, 2003 23:09
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this is pretty silly 
blend it all up... even better - blend psy with other genres at the parties.. expand the horizons! |
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full_on
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Posted : Feb 2, 2003 20:41
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My opinion is that each kind of psytrance has it´s own moment in a party... I like full on, but it´s kinda difficult to dance at full on 1:00pm when the sun is burning you...
My point is: the organizers, must of times, at least ´round here, just don´t make idea of what order the Djs should play... they put Dj´s that play Astrix at night, after these ones they play minimal, then full on again... etc... this way, there is no story behind the music.
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KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Feb 8, 2003 19:59
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|RoYeC|
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Posted : Feb 9, 2003 12:15
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my opinion is that the parties should stay like they are today cause it ain't interesting "triping" with only full-on or morning music.
i think the parties should stay how they are now and thats it!!!!
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mach_16
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Posted : Feb 11, 2003 05:19
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I must say i agree with psydark_light when he says that the mix of styles can be bad, but I want to be more specific. Imagine you're at a big party or festival. You're listening to one of your favourite djs. After his set comes a dj that likes to mix a totally diferent style, something that has nothing to do with what the dj was playing before.
First you get confused, then you get annoyed. I have to admit I just hate when they do that. But it's not the dj's fault. Who organised the party should bear in mind those "details". Transition between djs should be smooth...
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