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why is there no usa in trance in the world.
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konflux
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Posted : Jan 15, 2007 01:08
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hehe, this is quite amusing.
mystic vibes, please make sure you do your homework before coming to a class. if you simply "don't really know any, signed and huge electronic acts in the usa" why do you think you can assume that there aren't any? it seems like you are trying to promote yourself and your web-site here, but listen, making provocative statements based on your lack of knowledge is not the best way to do it.
there's plenty of talent on this soil, domestic or imported, and if you really want to know the names there are quite a few mentioned here: http://geomagnetic.tv/artists.htm .
as to electronic music in general, oh boy, don't even go there. it'd be really wreckless to say that "There aren't any good artist in the usa who make electronic music". with chicago being the home of house music and detroit of techno plus significant contributions to the world electronic dance music scene on the breakbeat, drum'n'bass and electro fronts the us and canada are the emerging players in the game.
continue exploring and think before you speak up.
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rajatrao6
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Posted : Jan 15, 2007 01:12
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@Konflux. I guess Mystic Vibes is just new to the scene. I'd rather clear the doubts in his mind than pin point him and put him down 
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paradigm
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Posted : Jan 15, 2007 03:47
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and even before Chicago house and Detriot techno, there was Nu-energy (proto 80's gay San Francisco house) which laid the foundation for acid house in the UK (which is recognized as the father of modern dance music), so really all electronic dance music's roots can be traced back to its American heritage.
so Mystic Vibes consider this a basic lesson in edm history.
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Skeeve
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Posted : Jan 15, 2007 04:08
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On 2007-01-15 00:18, Mystic Vibes wrote:
Though in goa and psytrance, all the main guys are coming from israel. Really huge there. Don't understand though. Keep Rockin 
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there are many, many, many exceptions to your rule, but I think the most prominent one is S.A... hello.
And in terms of huge electronic acts... how about danny tenaglia? Ritchie Hawtin, while technically canadian, cut his teeth in detroit... and more recently, Gabriel and Dresden have been tearing it up world wide. The list is much longer then that, but that should get you started. |
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PsyCore
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Posted : Jan 15, 2007 04:38
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Just a reminder class, there will be a quiz on Monday. |
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ocelot
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Posted : Jan 18, 2007 14:55
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i think he meant
"why isn't there a separate country listing for usa in the isratrance section 'trance in the world"
to which i reply-
i for one am GLAD there is not
after all this usa this and usa that
after bush, after iraq, after hollywood, and after all the usa-centric naval gazing i really dont feel like saying "usa usa " if you know what i mean
its about TIME for a pan-north-american vibe
we share a continent and given the usa news media and their inherently introspective view of the world, i have to say "give it a rest"
canada, the usa, and the many nations of central america should be thinking in pan-north american terms in general.
it is to our detriment that we insist on usa usa usa...
in general i hope for nationalism to die die dead
because its utter bullshit
we are all the same
two arms, two legs, a head (hopefully- but all the same nonetheless..)
homo sapiens...
as to fairness- then i might point out the massive amount of "culture" we dump on the world via hollywood etc... and say lets be a bit quiet and subtle now shall we?
as far as trance goes- north america is an isolated land mass with connections to south america and a tiny strip of sea between alaska and eurasia...
we need to build bridges
my 2 cents anyway...
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rajatrao6
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Posted : Jan 18, 2007 15:16
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@ocelot... i completely agree with what your saying if the question was percieved in the way you did. But i do feel you have misunderstood his question I think what he meant was why not many artists/dj's from the united states have made a considerable impact on the global trance circuit. But offcourse there are some exceptions  It would be interesting to listen to your views based on my interpretation of the question
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Basilisk
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Posted : Jan 18, 2007 17:07
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| there's plenty of talent on this soil, domestic or imported, and if you really want to know the names there are quite a few mentioned here: http://geomagnetic.tv/artists.htm . |
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Geomagnetic signs just about anything with a pulse. Smart marketing, but it doesn't mean too much.
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| its about TIME for a pan-north-american vibe
we share a continent and given the usa news media and their inherently introspective view of the world, i have to say "give it a rest"
canada, the usa, and the many nations of central america should be thinking in pan-north american terms in general.
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100% agreed... sometimes I think American psytrancers have little idea how much they compulsively ignore and discard the rest of us... all you need to do is breeze through the AUM Festival planning thread and read how often people talk about the "US scenes," "US festivals," "US cities," "US acts," etc. Real inclusive. Oh and of course there is the matter of it taking place the same weekend as Eastern Canada's biggest psytrance festival... but that is another matter... yes, we live in a modern age where borders exist mostly in the mind, and have little practical effect. I can get on a plane and be in NYC tonight without much trouble. Nationalism is of no service to those wishing to expand the presence of psytrance in North America...
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paradigm
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Posted : Jan 18, 2007 18:48
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@ basilisk, i dont feel its the american trancers compulsively ignore the others. Its just that being that given the size, and population the US has, its scene dynmamics are rather different that most other places (mexico might be an exception). Most countries have 1 scene for that country, not seperate scenes for different regions or even cities. Even Canada while having multiple scenes, seems to have 80% of what you do concentrated in Montreal and Toronto, and forgive me if i am wrong, but it seems to me that that the majority of Canadian trance for the most part ignores whats going on in Vancouver.
For the longest time, American trance was very isolated. No one in New York, talked with anyone in San Francisco. No one in SF even talked with those in LA who are only 400 miles away. In the past 3 years this has all broken down, and there is a new found comunication and sense of networking going on amongst the scenes. and i for one think it only right to further build upon what we have in our own backyard.
Also there is a big cross border sharing of acts with Mexico. Many US (so cal dj's) play in TJ and other parts of Mexico often, and i can think of numerous mexican dj's and acts both known and unknown that have come and played both festivals and undergrounds out west.
Certainly Canada has been underepresented in the US, with Horizon being the only one i think being brought over multiple times, and though more US acts have made there way to Canada, it is still a relativly small amount, and those that have gone, are for the most part ones that have made at least sometype of media imprint on the global scene.(i.e Random / Spook / BSM {who is singed to a Canadian label}) and not just regional dj's lucky to get a break
I do agree though it is a complete shame that eclipse and aum fall on the same dates. Though i dont think too many people will be affected by it, I myself would have loved to have gone to both
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FaceHead
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Posted : Jan 18, 2007 19:38
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im putting together a comp for the aum festival and both mexico and canada will be represented im open to suggestions basilisk. I cant speak for other people on the exclusion of other countries just as you cant speak for all of us on the issue. Not all of us are proud of or fit the mold of the USA reputaion.
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FaceHead
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Posted : Jan 18, 2007 21:31
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On 2007-01-18 19:38, FaceHead wrote:
im putting together a comp for the aum festival
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I apologize this is not exclusively related to the aum festival. For anyone paying attention. This means that the artists on my ptotential comp may or may not be playing the fest. The music represented on this comp reflects my personal taste in music and does not necessarily reflect the views of any organization or event in particular, and finally, I am not among the organizers of this event and am operating completely independant of any organization or event. Sorry for any confusion.
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mubali
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Posted : Jan 19, 2007 06:04
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Here's something funny I noticed traveling outside of the country for the first time early in 2006... I went to belgium and someone at the party I played at when I told them I was from the US asked me if there actually was any trance parties in the states. The only I could do was giggle and walk over to the stage and start my set...
I don't really feel the nationalistic vibe, more a vibe of letting people know we exist... And to basilisk... the only reason of such talk of it being a US festival is mainly due to the financial issues of throwing a large festival... Shit's pretty expensive here, and to even throw a party here in the states is a real financial undertaking. Most international artists charge a lot of money to play outside of their normal area, and without the crowd to support such a fee, most organizers would lose way more money than they actually already do. Gaian Mind is one of the few festivals that regularly brings lots of international talent on an annual basis and manages to at least break even, and they've been doing this festival for a long time... The AUM festival is a new festival, and you need to be patient. Maybe this year there won't be a lot of international artists, or any for that matter. It doesn't mean that there will never be. You just have to make sure that you won't be spending all of money on 3 international artists when you can have 10 national artists... Most parties here in the us barely get 300 people... (I said most).... You have to keep that in consideration when planning something especially on such a grand scale such as the AUM festival hopefully will be.
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mubali
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Posted : Jan 19, 2007 06:08
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Back to the topic at hand. If there were just a USA trance in the world thread, then the north america thread would just be Canada, as Mexico has gotten their own thread too. I personally have been DYING to go to Canada, especially since I've never been there even to visit. I'd like to know what's going on there. We're part of the North American continent, why not us all be together?
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konvndrvm
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Posted : Jan 19, 2007 13:53
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People around the World....
JOIN HANDS....
Start a Love Train.... LOVE TRAIN!!!!
(repeat chorus x6,000,000,000)
heee.
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Basilisk
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Posted : Jan 19, 2007 17:05
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Mubali, I think you mistake me... international artists at Aum festival doesn't make sense, even if there were the money for it. Well, unless you consider those of us from Canada as "internationals" to me, the concept is to celebrate the homegrown North American talent; to bring everyone together. My point is that several American trance fans seem to overlook that the continent is shared... and in essence, it becomes a US festival, celebrating US diversity, no longer with an inclusive North American scope.
Paradigm, I do not understand your message. Canada is your backyard too, don't you see? This newfound sense of awareness of what lies over the horizon does not seem to extend north of the border for some people. It's probably an oversight, so I am pointing it out. Perhaps people will shake the habit if they don't mean to do so.
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