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Why is Psy Trance so intertwined with Buddhism and is that good or bad??
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raversmash
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Posted : Dec 26, 2007 23:30
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As long as i have been involved in the scene i have always wondered this. Why is it that you go to a venue to see a huge budda statue or painting or something else?? It always turned me off....I mean i love the scene but do not want to promote a religion while promoting the music which i really love?? Any answers suggestions comments?? |
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wicc@
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Posted : Dec 27, 2007 00:20
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buddhism is smth more than religion. it is smth like a science of the human conciousness. it is the spiritual path of the human mind and body. so it is music. to meditate, is not a religion. it is a way of life. and to do it, you need the right tone of music to help you. music and meditation are close connected.
the shiva dance helps human conciousness as no other dance.
your mind and body are relaxed
your energies are balanced
your thoughts flow with ease
We are entering golden alchemy of mind and consciousness
where consciousness is tranformed from the physical to the higher mind.
The matrix of your body is being altered
Your journey is one of spiraling consciounessthrough which you experience All.
As you spiral higher, you release emotions of fear, pain and anger
returning to your true essence of love and compassion.
I stand before you ready to take you on a sacred journey . . .
Your heart is light and filled with love . . .
You join with me as we move into another reality where you
will be enlightened with the Doctrines of your Spiritual Truths.
buddhism and psytrance are much close connected. |
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phiber_optixz
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Posted : Dec 27, 2007 00:38
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Someone recently asked me this question and i wasn't able to give a proper answer. Why is it that most hindu Gods and Goddesses are associated with psytrance, for example Shiva, Kali, Krishna, Ganesha and many more. Is it just because hindus worship a lot of deities unlike any other religions? The association of Shiva is very clear and justified. Could someone explain the meaning of association of other hindu dieties with psytrance? 
Peace and light.
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Sugandhim Pushti - vardhanam|
Urva - rukamiva Bandhanan
Mrytor - muksheeya ma - amritaat|| |
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full_on
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Posted : Dec 27, 2007 05:39
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Psy is more associated to aliens. 
Don't worry about that, associations only happen in our minds, this music is not good or bad, it just is...
Relax and dance.
Respect!
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...Be gentle with the earth...
...Dance like nobody's watching...
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...I don't mind not going to Heaven, as long as they've got Coffee in Hell... |
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sure_smoke_alot
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Posted : Dec 27, 2007 06:14
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On 2007-12-27 05:39, full_on wrote:
Don't worry about that, associations only happen in our minds, this music is not good or bad, it just is...
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the problem with valuing art is, till u dont understand it, it's worthless but wen u do understand it, it's priceless!! |
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Fallen Angel
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Posted : Dec 27, 2007 06:50
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On 2007-12-26 23:30, raversmash wrote:
As long as i have been involved in the scene i have always wondered this. Why is it that you go to a venue to see a huge budda statue or painting or something else?? It always turned me off....I mean i love the scene but do not want to promote a religion while promoting the music which i really love?? Any answers suggestions comments??
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Simple answer... Age gap/generation
Long answer... putting wailing women samples and mantras into tracks was/is a way of showing appreciation to the environment of life around at the time. Adding an awareness, some semblance of consciousness level. A level trippers can happily float along with, having giggles along the way.
The question is... what came first, the music with 'influence', or the imagery you see?
It's not about promoting a religion. It's about creating an ambience level. One that the 'whole' are happy to be a part of. Why do you not see UV drapes at parties with Kali jumping out of it at you looking like he's gonna kill you???
It's all imagery. Not imaginary. Audio/Visual Imagery. Of the best kind.
Alot of VJ's are now making A/V sets, obviously full of imagery. It won't be long before A/V producers get their own color here... in yellow /wtf |
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raversmash
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Posted : Dec 27, 2007 07:16
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On 2007-12-27 00:20, wicc@ wrote:
buddhism is smth more than religion. it is smth like a science of the human conciousness. it is the spiritual path of the human mind and body. so it is music. to meditate, is not a religion. it is a way of life. and to do it, you need the right tone of music to help you. music and meditation are close connected.
the shiva dance helps human conciousness as no other dance.
your mind and body are relaxed
your energies are balanced
your thoughts flow with ease
We are entering golden alchemy of mind and consciousness
where consciousness is tranformed from the physical to the higher mind.
The matrix of your body is being altered
Your journey is one of spiraling consciounessthrough which you experience All.
As you spiral higher, you release emotions of fear, pain and anger
returning to your true essence of love and compassion.
I stand before you ready to take you on a sacred journey . . .
Your heart is light and filled with love . . .
You join with me as we move into another reality where you
will be enlightened with the Doctrines of your Spiritual Truths.
buddhism and psytrance are much close connected.
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This is precisely what i'm talking about...there are many more ways to be spiritually enlightened then the archaic symbolism we see at parties(in my opinion). Meditation being on of them....being that we are at Isratrance Kaballah is certainly another...I mean you never see the 10 sepiroth model or the three garments or any thing else spiritually intetrtwined with Judaism or any other non-eastern religion. The truth is i've gone to parties where they've had no eastern dieties on the walls or on the projectors and where they did...and the truth i had similar experiences at both none being better then the other so i don't think it really has an influence on your experience. I think it's more the music, and the people!! |
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raversmash
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Posted : Dec 27, 2007 07:16
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On 2007-12-27 05:39, full_on wrote:
Psy is more associated to aliens.
Don't worry about that, associations only happen in our minds, this music is not good or bad, it just is...
Relax and dance.
Respect!
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Aliens are hella kewl  |
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Pavel
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Posted : Dec 27, 2007 08:19
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Saikozaurus
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Outolintu
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Posted : Dec 27, 2007 10:35
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...and to close the circle i want to
remind you that some people believe that buddha, shiva plus lots of other enlightened persons and/or gods were actually aliens who came from another planet to educate us
"no one ever sweats on a plug-in" -moby |
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Dec 27, 2007 12:08
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For me its simply untrue , Cant agree with you at all . Some times i like to listen to church music and operas and even use this tunes and motives in my tracks so that mean i have any connection or intertwine to the Christianity ? Its bullshit man , Each one with his own crazy mind and thought when it become to psy . Its true that all start there in goa but from this to your diagnosis or conclusion there is an big way and road , Realy far man . Music is music , When you going to africa you will hear a clan music (There is an places) , In suria , Jordan and lebanon you will find an arbik music thats glorify alla' for sure and in israel some jewish songs to bless the god , But not in trance man , Psychedelic music is international , Clean , Nothing behind , No rules or attitude . Delusion that come from the deep of the mind . |
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Pavel
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Posted : Dec 27, 2007 13:15
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On 2007-12-27 12:08, Cardinals Cartel wrote:
For me its simply untrue , Cant agree with you at all . Some times i like to listen to church music and operas and even use this tunes and motives in my tracks so that mean i have any connection or intertwine to the Christianity ? Its bullshit man , Each one with his own crazy mind and thought when it become to psy . Its true that all start there in goa but from this to your diagnosis or conclusion there is an big way and road , Realy far man . Music is music , When you going to africa you will hear a clan music (There is an places) , In suria , Jordan and lebanon you will find an arbik music thats glorify alla' for sure and in israel some jewish songs to bless the god , But not in trance man , Psychedelic music is international , Clean , Nothing behind , No rules or attitude . Delusion that come from the deep of the mind .
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Exactly
Everyone in the world is doing something without me |
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Saikozaurus
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Posted : Dec 27, 2007 13:41
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On 2007-12-27 12:08, Cardinals Cartel wrote:
For me its simply untrue , Cant agree with you at all . Some times i like to listen to church music and operas and even use this tunes and motives in my tracks so that mean i have any connection or intertwine to the Christianity ? Its bullshit man , Each one with his own crazy mind and thought when it become to psy . Its true that all start there in goa but from this to your diagnosis or conclusion there is an big way and road , Realy far man . Music is music , When you going to africa you will hear a clan music (There is an places) , In suria , Jordan and lebanon you will find an arbik music thats glorify alla' for sure and in israel some jewish songs to bless the god , But not in trance man , Psychedelic music is international , Clean , Nothing behind , No rules or attitude . Delusion that come from the deep of the mind .
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Shiva in Trance no because Its starts in Goa. It starts in Goa because Shiva in Trance. Any case everybody has inside all information, what happens, and sure anybody can choose whitch dimension he prefer. If you think psychedelic trance is just music, its true for you. But...
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Dec 27, 2007 14:55
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On 2007-12-27 13:41, Saikozaurus wrote:
Shiva in Trance no because Its starts in Goa. It starts in Goa because Shiva in Trance.
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I realy appreciate your belief but at the same time thats not mean that true . Im sorry .
Achmad from tunisia belive that every time that his goat do 'Me .. ' Something wrong is going to happen .
Lee from china eat an 9 sugar dice a day cause he belive that it will bring him an better and a long life and he we live till 100 .
Louis from france belive that his dog flupi can be the president .
But man .. All this is not facts , Its all in the air , thoughts of maybe ..
But i read here in the head of the topic some one that writing somthing as a fact : "Why is psy trance so intertwined with buddhism" , Who set and determine its true from the beginning ? , There is someone ? Maybe shiva .. ? I dont think so .
Facts man ..
The fact is that my dog name is bell .
The fact is that im working on dual core comp' .
The fact is the moon come at the night time and the sun in the morning .
So my advice and the all point in here for all the peoples in this site , And everywhere (And not only in the musical world - It can be used on everything) Dont take an hazy and ambiguous things as a fact cause writing this "Psy trance so intertwined with buddhism" (As a fact - And with so many confidence and absoluteness) Its realy ridiculous and not serious , (And that is a real fact) .
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