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why do you throw parties??
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green nun
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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 00:31
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just wondering...
what is your purpose for throwing parties? do you think it's important to have a purpose?
do you think there can be more than one organizer in a city and if so is it important what one's purpose is compared to the other's?
how do you balance the "business" aspect which can potentially cause so much misunderstanding since this scene is so not business oriented?
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SmokedSalmon
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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 01:10
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the purpose is to have fun I suppose.
there can be more than one. Actually the more the merrier. But at the same time, the more organized they are the better for us.
i believe each organizer is responsible of keeping the others updated on event dates so things don't get screwed. Seperating the crowd is not a good idea in my opinion.
well it is a bit hard to keep the business apart from these parties since the production of these events costs a lot of money in NYC. Especially the venues. Nobody wants to end up losing money. |
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Demi
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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 06:02
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though the 2 partys i visited in New York (Omni Fest in the Lake) and neuromotor did not look profittable.
For me its all for a DANCE! Its sharing informational nrg-s, drop out, ego - killing, enjoing the crowd, freaking out, fractalling...
If you succeed to make a profit from it - why NOT?! heh Some ppl live in IT ALL, so i suppose smb gotta make a little profit - for GOING ON CREATING those freak outs. Pure business falls apart!
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Demi
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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 08:24
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...there was also 1 more reply from my side, but it's been deleted lately. i asked there why are you talking about the NY area only? and added that NY is not the hub!
is there anything leading to negative from those comments? or anybody would be pissed off by my reply?
i suppose, moderators are just bored sometimes 
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Apocalypse Now
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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 08:57
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Dimitri, you are making a big deal out of nothing bro. Your comment had absolutely nothing to do with the topic and for your sake and as a courtesy to the person who started the topic I deleted it and sent you a detailed private message explaining why. You were rambling about how people from New York think they live in the center of the universe. What does that have to do with the subject?
Smoked Salmon on the other hand talked about New York because he lives there and he answered one of the questions that was asked. Don't be so sensitive man. Why are you trying to pick a fight?
People please ignore this and continue with the topic.
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Jeto
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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 11:51
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On 2003-08-14 00:31, green nun wrote:
just wondering...
what is your purpose for throwing parties? do you think it's important to have a purpose?
I think the purpose of throwing a party is to get the music to some new ears.. and to spread the trance scene.. also enjoy with ur friends and have good music... and good times... dance your butt off... a purpose could be a theme as well...for me
do you think there can be more than one organizer in a city and if so is it important what one's purpose is compared to the other's?
I think more than one organizers should or perhaps maybe focus on diffrent sides of trance music.. as in one organizer takes up the progressive acts and the other full on... in that sense... people can get what they want///
how do you balance the "business" aspect which can potentially cause so much misunderstanding since this scene is so not business oriented?
the business aspect can be done with not wanting to make too much profit.. just enuff so you can keep throwing parties... and the better ones you throw.. i think more people will come so its going to grow...
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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 11:53
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this thread sounds like a bad scence form the movie groove:) |
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PsyFire
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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 13:23
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On 2003-08-14 11:53, Suddenly wrote:
this thread sounds like a bad scence from the movie groove:)
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this thread sounds sounds more like a bad "movie" from the scene trance  |
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Surrender
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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 17:20
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I havent thrown any parties... but if i would then:
1. to enjoy the music and environment that i love so much. i beleive that i could enjoy my party the best since things would be done "my way".
2. To see others enjoy and to see good artists perform like maestros of the crowd that they are.
3. to change people's hearts and minds and "convert" them over to our side, with the same awe i had after my life changing first party ever.
4. it depends if i am making this party as private or business.
a. private - to have this event be free for me, not to make money on anyone and enjoy this whole thing with the crowd.
b. business - to be able to make a few $$ and throw the next party where in the long run i can actually live of the parties....
most of all, the reason i'll make a party is the same reason i go to a party - The music.
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rich
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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 21:08
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1. so people will praise me cos I'm the man
2. to sell drugs at my parties
3. edge out the other promoters and be the only one who brings in the big acts
4. make lots of money from my parties and drug sales
What I'm wondering: What can the scene do when someone like this emerges? can enough people boycott to make the person leave the scene? or is the lure of a good lineup too hard to pass up. How vulnerable are we? |
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Surrender
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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 22:46
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rich, with all due respect, please stay on target here. green nun brings up a good question, i see where youre going with this and i ask myself, does this contribute to this thread in a positive sense? are you answering her question at all?
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SmokedSalmon
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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 22:47
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Hey Rich...
It always takes enough people to make a difference.
But I do not think anyone here (NYC) wants anyone else to leave. We all love our organizers. Though they dissapoint us every now and then. I have had my best parties in Club Vinyl in NYC. At Tsunami parties. When all the elements show up you understand WHY THERE IS A PARTY. Here I would like you to remember how 4 beautiful and powerful elements are useless unless there is the 5th one from the movie "th 5the Element"
yeah it goes like that. name the elements yourself. But for me the 5th elements are my friends. Who I enjoy dancing with on the same dancefloor. Who I like to give and take energy.
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green nun
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Posted : Aug 15, 2003 00:11
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Actually Surrender, I think Rich's questions are a part of what I am asking...
People throw parties to ..have fun, dance, "party", see artists, etc. That’s understood. I go to concerts and movies for the same reasons also but I mainly go to trance parties for the reason Surrender said in #3 of his response….
"to change people's hearts and minds and "convert" them over to our side, with the same awe i had after my life changing first party ever"
Aren't we a part of a very important spiritual awakening? Trance has changed the life of every person I know who is in the scene CHANGED THEIR LIFE. So, if that is true and not just something we say then back to Rich’s comments..DO we have a responsibility to not support those promoters/organizers who are in it for reasons which may be destructive to the scene? If enough people are in it for the wrong reasons then eventually won’t the scene be changed and made into everything it does not represent at the moment?
A party requires planning, organization, equipment, money, time, etc.. but even more important it requires respect, understanding, patience, positivity and love. All the qualities we as trancers pride ourselves in having. When those qualities are not present in the organizers and/or the party goers then you will not have the elements needed to … “change people's hearts and minds and "convert" them over to our side, with the same awe i had after my life changing first party ever” (sorry to keep quoting you  )
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Aug 15, 2003 17:17
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It is important to have a purpose, goals and determination, when you make an event. Also every event should be a source of creativity, experimentation to fine tune the energy. We create an eviroment to celebrate.
Money most of the time is inconsequencial. It is needed as one more tool to get the celebration alive, but it should not be the driving force or the purpose for these tribal gatherings.
There can be as many organizers, producers, artists, DJs, videographers, etc... within one city. But sometime it feels it is harder to work all together towards contructing a stronger culture, as we end up getting cought in the destructive rethoric and egotistical agendas.
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