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Why do they still hang on to psychedelic trance ......

Xazy


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Posted : Jul 13, 2004 09:20
Why artists WHO they are turning CHEEZY and COMMERCIAL still hang on to psychedelic trance ... !!! ???
They are miss leading the peolpe, while they travel around the world to go and see their act and they turn out to be crapy cheezy commercial, also organiser maybe responsable for part of this ???

Share your thoughts !!!           get your fluffy stuff out from here !!!!
The Journey Man Project
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Posted : Jul 13, 2004 09:26
I'd say promoters take the artist because they know that punters will go see the artits even if he has gone commercial... also, I'd say eventually the fun wears thin as the artist gets old, and he/she may start to want to earn a better income than the psy scene gives, maybe one where they can settle down in a funky studio in England or Ibiza, and not have to do much but pump out a few tracks that pull in the dollars... the psytrancers are guarantted to buy the music even if it is cheesey, how many people go "oooh a new Infected track" and buy it before they even listen? Loads of 'em...
Xazy


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Posted : Jul 13, 2004 09:34
Well thats what i mean and thats why it is all wrong if they gone commercial they should not be in the underground scene anyway, they should stay in ibiza !!!

or go else where and stop miss leading the new comers !!!!           get your fluffy stuff out from here !!!!
blueOrb
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Posted : Jul 13, 2004 10:05

common stop the GMS and infected bashing.....give these guys a break

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Biotouch

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Posted : Jul 13, 2004 10:57
the thing here ppl is that all the people want to be so diferent want to have a producer "band" just for their own.. what's wrong with people like infected or gms? you go to their studios.. fuck is real stuff.. they give you kuality.. and in the other hand i realy dont like pop trance too mutch.. i like melodic.. and bla bla bla.. why you keep talking about tastes all the time.. its like this who born first.. the chiken or the egg? i have an oppinion you have another.. people are diferent instead of trying that people have your opinion respect others opinions.. and do constructive posts... like this one there are many posts..
p.s-trance partys are getting darck and twisted i realy dont like should i post about it and say that darck music is a bullshit? lolol off course not.. that partys are full of people that enjoys that kind of music... so respect.. if the world was all "blue" you would be yelow.. things are just what they are..
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krelm
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Posted : Jul 13, 2004 11:00
Quote:

On 2004-07-13 09:20, Xazy wrote:
Why artists WHO they are turning CHEEZY and COMMERCIAL still hang on to psychedelic trance ... !!! ???
They are miss leading the peolpe, while they travel around the world to go and see their act and they turn out to be crapy cheezy commercial, also organiser maybe responsable for part of this ???



Can you please give some examples of artists who you are talking about?
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Xazy


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Posted : Jul 13, 2004 11:11
well thats why mantioned no artists in particular and also did not mantion any genere or style nore i mantionbed quality should you know of coarse maybe you have just been born this is an uderground scene and should stay the way it is,

I know many disaponted people who travelled to go to Full moon festival which the music turned out to be just commericial sound drums rolles and old crap like that !!

EVOLUTION !!!!
WAKE UP YOU SLEEPY HEADS READ AND LEARN IF YOU HAVE JUST BEEN BORN !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice one Naked Tourist Example of evolution !!
          get your fluffy stuff out from here !!!!
nobody4
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Posted : Jul 13, 2004 11:44
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Well thats what i mean and thats why it is all wrong if they gone commercial they should not be in the underground scene anyway, they should stay in ibiza !!!

or go else where and stop miss leading the new comers !!!!



Who says they are in the underground scene? they play where they are booked, and if it happens to be a promoter who wears longies and aims to a crowd with dreadlocks and sandals doesn't mean that they are in the 'underground' scene. Maybe you should ask yourself why you are in these parties if you know the are not 'pure' anymore...

And about commercializm, I think some people do enjoy the idea of livin' good, with some security and ability to earn decent salary - which can help a lot if you have a family or just want to buy gear. Also, artists want to be famous, so they can reach as big crowd as possible for their art. The fact that you dont see it as art is another matter - a taste issue that is pointless.
Its very nice to do 'high art' that is not accessible for many people, but its also very satisfying to be able to give 10,000 people pleasure and happyness by playing a bit 'simpler' stuff (although it is not neccessarily simpler music - producing high quality music is hard whether it is 'artistic' or 'commrcial').

Bottom line is, if you know that some artist is 'cheezy and commercial', dont bother buying his/her music and dont go to their gigs. I dont understand the problem here - why do you care if they are labeled 'psy trance'? do they make the music you listen to less good?

True, all things alive must change and evolve. BUT - there is time and place for everything, and as long as artists and crowd feel there is more to this type of sound it will stay, and when the time comes it will develop into the next thing.
(just like what happend with progressive trance that developed into full-on by combining proggy elements with melodies - this happend after several years of only scando/german progressive domination in the trance scene, and the artists and crowd were really bored with it and began looking for the old emotions that were missing from the over-technical minimal style.)

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ganjagil
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Posted : Jul 13, 2004 12:25
Hi there i think Xazy is right, i went to the fullmoon festival 2004 and i expected really good music from the so called "Big artists" like Infected Mushroom, Alien Project, Astrix and all the others bla bla bla but no instead of dancing i ended up sitting down and laughing because it's all commercial crap! I respect all the people over there just lovely but i am sorry there is no psychedelic parties anymore! Before used to be like going to another world now it's just going to another party! I loved the music from Silicon Sound and Star-X i send my full respect we need more of these artists to get on our way back to heaven!

Boom Bolenath from Malta
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nobody4
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Posted : Jul 13, 2004 12:32
Good to hear you like Star-X, eran sure brings new views into the so-called 'full-on sound...

But then again, what did you really expect to get from the FMF? you know most of the performing aritsts, you know most of their music and style, so why be suprised?
More so, these artists perform a lot, and usualy with similar sets, so if you heard them once you will probably hear a similar set with similar tracks (changes here and there) - and the DJ sets will be similar as well.
I heard that there were many tracks that were over played by many performers in their DJ sets, a shame but a good example to the re-use of the 'success formula'.

I do believe that when crowd&artists alike come to the 'overdose' of this type of sound the change will happen. its only a matter of time (and talent!).
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ganjagil
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Posted : Jul 13, 2004 13:35
Yes i beleive in Eran a lot he is also my friend and the music he produces hits my hearth and my soul! I know that it was expected in the FMF but understand that i live in Malta and we do not go to a festival that often so we hoped it would be good! know what i mean Infected before were out of this world so we hoped in them and in many more! but in vain it's all gone mate! We need new artists like Star-X and Silicon Sound to get back on track!           Your sound, is your music, is your soul keep them all on the right track!

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Goa.Rachel


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Posted : Jul 13, 2004 13:36
Artists are also people, People have thoughts, feelings and emotions and they have the will to do what they want and "how" they want.

everytime that an artist do a something that is a bit different - people have thoughts like
"hes gone commercial - it sucks"

why ?
the soul of the true artist is always in change. and also his music.
and that was the bright side, in the other side...

lets say that an artist decide that he now wants to make some "big" money on his music.
and he actually makes someone else's music, he makes something that everybody loves.
but he wants to do it !
everyone asks .."why ?! why going commercial ?!?!?"

BECAUSE HE WANTS TO !

for his past fans...it sucks.
but, he likes it !
so...if you dont wanna hear his new cheesy music. dont

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Xazy


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Posted : Jul 13, 2004 13:43
Rachel if an artist want to make music for film or for tv commercials or even make house music or even pop music like back street boys yes they can do what the hell they like but if you are producing under PSYCHEDELIC TRANCE PLEASE STAY PSY OR F*** OFF SOME WHERE ELSE after all I am an artist to when all of you were still in nappies not that I am gonna tell you who i am !!!!

So please stay psy stay underground or else piss off make music somewhere else !!!

And Ganjagil you should have heard the track
cities of the future by infected CHEEZY           get your fluffy stuff out from here !!!!
ganjagil
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Posted : Jul 13, 2004 13:50
Xazy i agree in a way cause if you love music and psy trance then you cannot have a hearth for money! Money is non existent music is the most important thing in life and when an artist play in festival he has big resposability to play music that will take the people somewere better than this world! Cannot play commercial! It's absolutely fucked! I can go to a fuckin bar and hear commercial not in a psy festival!
Infected cities of the future is like a dagger in my hearth! They were one of the best artists and now they come up with that were is the psycedelic hearth? Were is the energy?

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Xazy


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Posted : Jul 13, 2004 13:55
thats what I mean Ganja no price for undereground you should all take kemicals example of underground I bloddy hell know what i am saying his tunes sounds like no other artist pure original pure underground pure energy pure psycho fucker !!!          get your fluffy stuff out from here !!!!
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