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who do u think is the best live act today?

Magox
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Posted : Aug 10, 2007 07:46
shpongle/hallucinogen

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pratik_darkpsy


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Posted : Aug 10, 2007 17:30
derango for sure has the best live act and i've heard even troglodytes set is also killer...           " The Good Will Come To You When You Do Good To Others "
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Posted : Aug 11, 2007 08:39
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MadScientist
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Posted : Aug 12, 2007 04:14
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On 2007-08-10 07:46, Magox wrote:
shpongle/hallucinogen




defenately           https://soundcloud.com/hazak

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Posted : Aug 12, 2007 18:57
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On 2007-07-31 17:25, Colin OOOD wrote:
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On 2006-05-28 14:43, le barde wrote:
for little artists its another story because they all wish to have plenty of synths connected to a 64 channels mixer ... when you try it once to go that way, you must connect your machines under the rain, sourrounded of beers ready to fall down on your virus ... and at the end the organiser wasnt reachable coz he left to another planet.
... the next time you play, you wisely decide to take only your laptop and maybe a midi keyboard to have some fun .. great, it hasn't crashed .. but then you hear people saying in some forums about getting bored to see mouse performers.


I realise this may be your own personal experience but may I disagree with this generalisation? Strongly? Thanks

Most trance these days is made inside the computer, as professional-quality music software is freely available on the internet. I'd say that almost NO 'little' artists use lots of keyboards and external hardware in their tracks. Back in the 90s this was the only way live sets could be done, for sure, but in recent years? No.

Most live acts today want to stand behind a big mixer because it helps them hide. Hide the fact that their li(v)e set is a sham, that they are pretending to be doing things they're not doing - lying, in other words. Without that mixer to stand behind, everybody would be able to see that the artist is doing jack shit, and of course that isn't a good way to get the crowd on your side, helping you pump up your ego. "I paid $30 to see a live performance, not someone dancing behind their laptop". They try and justify it by saying they're putting on a show for the dancefloor - but what kind of weak-assed show is it to pretend to be tweaking knobs on a mixer that anyone who cares to look can see isn't even plugged in? At least Eskimo isn't ashamed about the way he does it, standing on the DJ table with his "Gesture Show".

Check out a live act with a guitarist - is the performer hiding behind the mixer? No, because he's proud of what he's doing and wants people to see it.

At Life Festival in Ireland this summer, there was a huge mixer on the trance stage - just like there is at any other large party or festival where live acts are performing. Only one live act actually used it (and that with difficulty as it didn't even have any line inputs); for 95% of the festival the only thing plugged into it was the DJ mixer. Li(v)e acts plugged their laptops into this; one or two of them even brought MIDI keyboards with them, and one very big name even borrowed one of these keyboards and pretended to play it even though it wasn't plugged in to anything. Given that the dancefloor couldn't see this happen, one can only assume the deception was intended for those standing behind this performer.

When everyone, regardless of actual talent, can put on a li(v)e show like this, it contributes to an overall drop in quality of events and releases. This shit damages our scene.

Bottom line: It's a greed and ego thing. Live acts get paid more and receive more kudos from the dancefloor. It happens because people can get away with it so easily... because people say "it doesn't matter as long as the music is good".

Now I agree that the quality of the music coming out of the speakers is what really matters, and that a good performance can electrify the dancefloor, but this is more than possible without lying to the audience; surely a producer/DJ (which is about 90% of producers these days) totally getting off on dancing like a loon whilst DJing their own tracks is just as valid a performance (if not much, much more!!!)?

All and artist needs for a real, interactive, spontaneous, truly live set is a good laptop/soundcard and a couple of MIDI controllers; the whole lot can fit in your backpack. All the promoter would have to provide is a 16-channel mixer (obviously too small for those li(v)e acts trying to compensate for the size of their manhood) and an FX unit... hell, if you've got half a brain and a good enough laptop/soundcard you don't even need that! Look at Tom Cosm for a prime example. You wouldn't need a soundcheck because your levels are balanced inside the computer... real live sets can be even cheaper for a promoter than the fake ones, whilst being unique performances that partygoers will never forget.

If we tolerate dishonesty and arrogance on such a fundamental level of our scene then sorry, but we're fucked in the long term.

Does it matter? Well it obviously does to me! How about you?



yes!
nicely put
Hex Osirus
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Posted : Aug 14, 2007 07:48
son kite has to be the best proper live act ive heard, they definately, know how to get a crowd moving!!

Procs and digitalk talk are also awesome!!

quite keen on checking out derango live...






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Zman
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Posted : Aug 14, 2007 07:59
Imagine the day we have a Hallucinogenic Horses live
Mad Purple State
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Posted : Aug 16, 2007 12:47
I think Infected Mushroom Define a Live Set. Erez doesnt leave the freakin Synth!

Its way different than a DJ set where everything is so well organized...

Not something everyone is in the trance scene for cause it usually slows down the dance floor... but makes up in Spontaneous Creativity.

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Zman
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Posted : Aug 16, 2007 14:29
I do not know... But from what ive heard from other people Polyphonia is certainly one of them. A visit to god and back
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Posted : Aug 16, 2007 21:44
Cosmo and Azax; and for trippy sounds Bamboo Forest... I think           UGLY BEFORE!
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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 02:15
what about Eat Static ? or Koxbox ?

We talk here about, best "live act" on a stage ??? or best "live act\artist" as music ???

I am confused !

Come on ! Let's stay on the subject ! I think this topic wasn't about what music or artist we like...but about wich artist do the best performance on the stage !
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Morbidelic
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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 16:26
Xenomorph

Tryambaka/Sick Addiction

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and many more REAL Live acts that change the music at live.


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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 22:37
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On 2007-08-17 02:15, The_Guardians_Of_Truth wrote:
what about Eat Static ? or Koxbox ?

We talk here about, best "live act" on a stage ??? or best "live actartist" as music ???

I am confused !

Come on ! Let's stay on the subject ! I think this topic wasn't about what music or artist we like...but about wich artist do the best performance on the stage !





I second that and honestly 2 of the best international live acts i have seen with a superb stage presence are X-Dream and Son Kite.
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what about Eat Static ? or Koxbox ?
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lets add medicine drum to make it 3

then i d prolly call it for Chronos from Mexico, better watch out for them! they combine stage presence + great tunes.
my 2 cents....

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Chambao
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Posted : Aug 22, 2007 18:23
well theres a few:
Shpongle, best live i ever saw in my life was a shpongle live set in soulclipse. fuckin insane.
the other one was juno reactor's set, where they brought amampondo to play with them.. you should checkout some of their solo stuff ASAP.
another good live artist is tom cosm, SUN Project, and, of course, infected mushroom.
(btw, im sure that rinkadink has one killer fuckin set.)           Love is Life

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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Aug 22, 2007 19:02
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On 2007-08-22 18:23, Chambao wrote:
(btw, im sure that rinkadink has one killer fuckin set.)


I haven't seen him play live for quite a while now so it's quite possible that he's changed what he does, but when I saw him live at Synergy Project in London just before/after the release of Rabbit from the Darkside, he was dancing in front of a 32-channel mixer with 2 channels plugged in, and I didn't see him touch it once (note - I was watching him fairly closely but I may have missed something). In fact it was this live set that first got me ranting about this to my friends.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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