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Whats the most original psy you've heard recently ?
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Posted : Jan 21, 2006 14:49
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On 2006-01-21 05:42, EYB wrote:
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U can dance to a lot of music: Rock, HipHop, Punk, Walzer, DnB, Jungle,........
This is not a definition for psytrance.
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ahem... -
all the acts i mention ALSo produce PSytrance unlike hip hop rap et c and all the other genres you mentioned.
Just because a psytrance artist makes some music that crosses genres a little does not make it suddenly irrelevant to a psytrance forum !
Either you understand what i mean and can offer something constructive to the thread or you dont in which case why respond at all ?
Although my original question states I am not particulaly bothered by genre (im sure nobody would die if someone mentioned a drum and bass artist), I am also interested in "psytrance" that has unusual elements or quirkiness, so please either offer a few suggestions or dont respond.
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I don't know how u come to the idea u had to tell me wether i have to reply or not, but u have a bad day.
The reply was absolutly constructive, coz i just wanted to give u a, btw friendly meant, hint to rethink ur sentences that this ambient stuff is dancable and so doesn't fit to the ambient section. I just said that something is danceable doesn't mean it fits to the psytrance section or not to the ambient section, because all music is wether dancable or not danceable.
About the rest i agree with Acidhive.
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Posted : Jan 21, 2006 14:56
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On 2006-01-21 07:48, Demezriel wrote:
If you want original, check out "Mechanical Help Elves" by Haltya, for some psychedelic funk-trance. Seriously.
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Hell yeh! I bought this release and "Eraser vs Yoejalka - Tarinat" at the same time. And in my opinion, Eraser vs Yoejalka is the better choice. Finland is deffently one of the best country for alternative and intelligent psy"trance".
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stompa
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Posted : Jan 21, 2006 15:26
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Just take a listen to Cujorius one new album: Creating a second sun, That is one hell of a master piece. These guys and Mr.Tim aka Sensient are for me the true pioneers of the dark and mindbending trance |
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neuromantik
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Posted : Jan 21, 2006 15:27
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"Originality refers to something being new or novel. It is not received from others nor copied from the creations of others."
Now that we have our defintion I think we can honestly agree NOTHING is original anymore, otherwise it would be in a genre of its own (ie. Depeche Mode for New Wave, New Model Army for 80s UK rock, Black Sabbath for Metal).
Now that doesn't mean there aren't any "original" combinations/crossovers, inspired from various styles in trance. If you're looking for those, I would suggest Jaia, Ghreg on Earth, Holeg + the Spies, Tim Schuldt, Faithealers and those crazy finnish groups already mentioned (Texas Faggot).
In ambient it is more difficult to find "originality" because ambient has a LOT more history than trance music (Brian Eno, Tangerine Dream, Pete Namlook, The Orb) but my recent favorites are probably Waterjuice and Solar Fields.
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Nobita
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Posted : Jan 21, 2006 17:28
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Btw, I made a mistake in the title of the Haltya album, it should be : "Electric Help Elves" .
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conscious benji
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Posted : Jan 21, 2006 17:38
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" Der dritte raum" is pretty original and has definitly defined his own style in a very special way. Canīt really define what genre it is but some tracks from him have some trance influences...
you should give it a listen!
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lalala
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Posted : Jan 21, 2006 23:07
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Thanks people,
heard some of jaias stuff today and must say its just the sort of thing i was looking for.
Of course nothing is ever completely original, but things you feel have original or innovative elemnts in them is fine too (=; |
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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Jan 22, 2006 02:52
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On 2006-01-21 02:27, lalala wrote:
Pretty much everything you could think of has been done before nowadays. Those looking for originality in music are on a quest they can rarely fulfill. Why not just enjoy music based on your feeling of a track, rather than judging it on originality? Heart wins over mind in music with me anytime.
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This is just so wrong....
Some people had the same opinion in the 16th century...
There are millions, infinite new things that havenīt been done yet...we just donīt know about it because no ones discovered them yet...
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karmacuetical
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Posted : Jan 22, 2006 04:49
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Artifakt- Artifakts II.
this release compliments both the creative, explorative aspect of psy, with the best of the classic aspects aswell.its always good to explore new sounds, but i feel its important to keep it 'in the genre' so as not to alienate your audience.( a good side effect of this is that it will expand the genre aswell)  |
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lalala
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Posted : Jan 22, 2006 05:08
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On 2006-01-22 02:52, FluoSamsara (Oxygen) wrote:
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On 2006-01-21 02:38, Acidhive wrote:
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On 2006-01-21 02:27, lalala wrote:
Pretty much everything you could think of has been done before nowadays. Those looking for originality in music are on a quest they can rarely fulfill. Why not just enjoy music based on your feeling of a track, rather than judging it on originality? Heart wins over mind in music with me anytime.
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This is just so wrong....
Some people had the same opinion in the 16th century...
There are millions, infinite new things that havenīt been done yet...we just donīt know about it because no ones discovered them yet...
boomz
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hey dude I didnt write that it was the other guy.
anyway m,ust stop using the word dude. I agree with you but hey let us know what tunes are rocking your world at the moment ! |
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lalala
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Posted : Jan 22, 2006 06:27
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On 2006-01-21 15:27, neuromantik wrote:
"Originality refers to something being new or novel. It is not received from others nor copied from the creations of others."
Now that we have our defintion I think we can honestly agree NOTHING is original anymore, otherwise it would be in a genre of its own (ie. Depeche Mode for New Wave, New Model Army for 80s UK rock, Black Sabbath for Metal).
Now that doesn't mean there aren't any "original" combinations/crossovers, inspired from various styles in trance. If you're looking for those, I would suggest Jaia, Ghreg on Earth, Holeg + the Spies, Tim Schuldt, Faithealers and those crazy finnish groups already mentioned (Texas Faggot).
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thanks for the tips . I would however, respectfully, dispute your comments on Depeche Mode for New Wave, New Model Army for 80s UK rock, Black Sabbath for Metal) they were very much influenced by what went before as all music always has been. As such nothing is never COMPLETELY original and never has been but music can have novel twists and innovations. the more innovative something is we often refer to it as being more "original". But yes the only truly original music was probably when man first banged a stick on a rock, or blew down a bamboo flute. which brings us to an interesting point. Originality in music is spawned by imagination but it is also spawned by developments and leap forwards in technology (ie bamboo flute, stick, drum, sequncer , computer).
its developments in tecnology that spawned electronic dance music, as such there has been no giant leep forwards in technology for a while so.... however changes in software may help us go forward. Of course you could say it is the person that makes the music not the technology, and to a degree that is true, however if there was no computers or electrinic gear there would be no psytrance ! |
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Posted : Jan 22, 2006 11:13
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the melovskys - psycyhedelic cowboy...
man this is something absolutely super...very fresh sounds...good use of instruments....and awesome use of samples...and its not like copy paste.....there is a a vocal in each and evry track...ive trul enjoyed listening to this...i recommend all of u to check this out....truly amazing piece of work!
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kikola
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Posted : Jan 22, 2006 12:48
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forgot to mention Drone ;-) that's quite original
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Acidhive
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Posted : Jan 22, 2006 15:05
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On 2006-01-22 02:52, FluoSamsara (Oxygen) wrote:
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On 2006-01-21 02:27, lalala wrote:
Pretty much everything you could think of has been done before nowadays. Those looking for originality in music are on a quest they can rarely fulfill. Why not just enjoy music based on your feeling of a track, rather than judging it on originality? Heart wins over mind in music with me anytime.
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This is just so wrong....
Some people had the same opinion in the 16th century...
There are millions, infinite new things that havenīt been done yet...we just donīt know about it because no ones discovered them yet...
boomz
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You've never immersed yourself in the same music as I did obviously.  If you listen to lots of experimental electronic music you'd know. Ofcourse there are things that haven't been done yet, including stuff you wouldn't want people to know about. My opinion is that music enjoyment does NOT come from experimentation, but from the heart. If you get touched by a song from Yahel, would you not stand by it when people say to you it is a bad song? If you don't you're a total failure in my eyes. Trust your own feeling with music. If you're only looking for originality in music I think you're a sad person.
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lalala
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Posted : Jan 22, 2006 16:27
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You've never immersed yourself in the same music as I did obviously. If you listen to lots of experimental electronic music you'd know. Ofcourse there are things that haven't been done yet, including stuff you wouldn't want people to know about. My opinion is that music enjoyment does NOT come from experimentation, but from the heart. If you get touched by a song from Yahel, would you not stand by it when people say to you it is a bad song? If you don't you're a total failure in my eyes. Trust your own feeling with music. If you're only looking for originality in music I think you're a sad person.
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dude -
your comments are patronising offensive and judgemental. because you assume people do not listen with their heart just because someone likes originality in music. It does not imply they dont have feelings for music or passion. In fact it is an indicator of their passion and love for the music that they wish for it to constantly evolve and not become a relic of the past.
Perhaps if I had said that i like innovative music that has heart you would understand better.
And just because YOU dont enjoy experimentation in music doesnt mean that everyone else is the SAME AS YOU !!! shock horror !!!! Nor does it mean that anyone who is not EXACTLY the same as you is a sad person.
Some of the most emotional music i have ever heard - which brought me to tears - was also very experimental, the experimental sounds allowed the artist to express some of the more obscure emotions of the heart.
For me the heart is the most important thing in music as well, so we dont agree, however as well as emotion I also look for innovation in music, often they come hand in hand.
I see you are passionate about music - that is good - but your assumption that others are less so without even asking them first is presumtious, ignorant and ego centric.
Let me guess - someone told you yourfavourite track was unoriginal or something ??
and who the hell is yahel ?
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