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WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "progressive" and "full on" ???
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BrainStorm
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Posted : Nov 25, 2002 14:56
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hey im sorry for being lame
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i cant really understand whats the deal with "progressive" and "full on"?
i can determine minimal for sure, but i cant get what ppl mean nowadays by saying "full on" isnt "progressive" ?
i always thought that actually progressive trance is when you hear stuff coming up.. like if u got a clear drumline, and then u add a snare to it, and after you add a hihat.. and so on - thats what i call progressive
(surely it doesnt relate only to drumlines - the same with synths..)
may somebody pls explain me the things?
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poison_inside
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Posted : Nov 25, 2002 15:41
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full on always have specific bass line .. ans usually very powerfull kick...
progressive usually have melodies
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TiMMY
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Posted : Nov 25, 2002 15:46
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Progressive is about structure,
full on is... "full on"  |
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Sputer
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Posted : Nov 25, 2002 15:47
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what ??????
Full On dont have melodies ??
I dont have definition to Progressive and Full On...
But, listen to GMS, Talamasca, Skazi, Absolum
and listen to Ticon, Vibrasphere, Bitmonx, Human Blue...
Then u'll feel the different
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Mike A
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Posted : Nov 25, 2002 16:28
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Full on:
Music designed for dancefloor, for moving, for full on power. Kick & bass are emphasized, and melodies are present as well.
Progressive:
A great deal of thought invested for the structure of the track. It progresses... Hard to explain. Listen to some Cosma tracks to get the idea.
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Sound Surgeon
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Posted : Nov 25, 2002 16:38
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Full On : lots of sounds , a big mixture of them, mostly fast tempo 138-150 tracks (there are exceptions)
Progressive : less sounds, slower than full on mostly. lots of precussion work there and listen to Mike A......
BTW both full on & progressive have melodies..
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Hodi
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Posted : Nov 25, 2002 16:47
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Progressive: Cosma,BLT
Full-On: Xerox, Astrix
hear tracks from them and hear the difference
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Kaz
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Posted : Nov 25, 2002 18:06
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Full-on is music which is based on one thing - power. This is the center of this style of music, and everything is built around it. Tim Schuldt was the first real pioneer into this style, before him there were only small moves into that direction from goa trance, it wasn't a style of it's own. Not long later, GMS started releasing tracks, and very soon Do Andriods Dream of Electric Sheep - their debut album - became a huge hit. The style was changed many times, but always with the ideology of "more power is better, always", from the heavy metal power of Tim Schuldt and Dark Soho, the dancefloor simplicity of GMS, Astrix and Talamasca, the darker sides like Parasense, Biotonic and Absolum, the more psychedelic side like Weirdo Beardo, GBU, and The Antidote... of course I don't cover everything here.
Progressive on the other hand is something which evolved much slower - at the time Indoor were considered progressive (nowadays people don't think so), but the first experiments in the progressive music as we know it were done by ManMadeMan, Tristan, and the defining moment (and considered by many the style's birth as a standalone genre) was Atmos's Headcleaner album. Later developed by such acts as Son Kite, Haldolium and Vibrasphere into new directions. Progressive music has been taken to many different directions - from the extremely groovy stuff with house touches like Alegria, Tegma and Antix, clubby influences and drive like Cosma and Ticon, full-on power like Quirk and Lish, and so many other directions. The ideology of this music is to create a "complete" musical sentance, something that moves from point A to point B in a certain interesting way - hence the name, Progressive - the progression of the track is more important than the rest, in there lies the dpeth of the music.
Hope I've been of some help.
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Trip-
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Posted : Nov 25, 2002 18:17
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kaz - your vocabulary is just big man again I couldn't put this any better! Thanx for bringing up Indoor ...
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BrainStorm
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Posted : Nov 25, 2002 18:34
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thanks people
kaz you are being very helpful
thanks for the info
Astral Projection & MFG - progressive or full on?
why phonokol puts "progressive" label on many of their discs which sounds like "full on" to me, by ur definition?
see my thread in "tracks" forum, i got a few tracks on ambrosia site
try my music, tell me what is it - progressive or full on?
i dont really think u'll be able to determine, because i got elements from both styles according to ur definitions
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TiMMY
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Posted : Nov 25, 2002 18:47
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Astral and MFG were goa trance at first, but little by little progressed to other directions.
However, they were never producing "progressive" music as we see it nowdays. |
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Nov 25, 2002 18:54
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Kaz you sure know your stuff ... I was impressed, and i'm not easilly impressed, by anything... There you got it brainstorm...
And Ap is Goa-trance (most of their tracks), and so is MFG (even while some of their tracks are bit more progressive, then AP tracks, you could say that the difference between MFG and AP is the fact that MFG were producing Night Goa - Trance, and AP were producing morning Goa -Trance. Just like GMS produces night full on, and Astrix mostly morning full on.)
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Sound Surgeon
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Posted : Nov 25, 2002 19:04
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GMS = night full on?
i dont think so........
hey kaz dude, you made my brain to storm....words of wisdom!
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Nov 25, 2002 19:17
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then what would you call it? , morning full on? i dont think so! imho, at least not in Denmark!!
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Mike A
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Posted : Nov 25, 2002 20:10
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Phonokol used to tag all of their old trance releases with "Progressive".
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