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NextWorld
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Sep 17, 2005 19:16
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Any russian guy here who can tell us what they are talking about in the thread to this Party? |
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MALDEK
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Posted : Sep 17, 2005 19:20
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the inscription of the SS or the pyramid with the all seen eye they have in the flyer and the whole concept they have, you are going to see it everywhere all your life, so dont freak abouth those things, you are gonna see it on tv, you are gonna see it, in your favorite snak, you are gonna see it in your beloved scene, its everywhere, subliminal or not subliminal its everywhere, so just think positive, create a conciousness of it happenening, and keep on living,
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raider
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Posted : Sep 17, 2005 20:14
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FUNKKIMUNKKI
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Posted : Sep 17, 2005 21:07
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raider u still seem to be missing the point eh? its about the reference to nazi stuff...not about how shocking a flyer is ..or not..
ill push u over the edge, and will be smiling when u cant take anymore, at that point ill push a little harder till u experience true psychdelica |
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scobbah
Kiriyama
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Posted : Sep 17, 2005 22:44
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Saylum
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Posted : Sep 17, 2005 23:00
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Think what crossed in people minds, who are not trance listeners, and absoloutly not related to trance, when they'v seen this flyer! It looks like a hidden promotion for the 'New-Nazis' or something, its disgusting if you ask me!
Hope we wont have to see shit like that anytime soon =\
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headyatail2000
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Posted : Sep 17, 2005 23:19
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looks more like "faces of death" cover 
<~< "the best things in life aren't things" - art buchwald >~> |
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eyerina
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Posted : Sep 18, 2005 00:33
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in the russian forum where party announcement and flyer are posted some people say flyer is disgusting, some see it as a sort of joke calling it "glamorous nazism"...... the discussion stopped already.. people just dont care.
i think it is not goodvision who made the flyer. goodvision are making truly psychedelic backdrops for party decoraion. i think somebody from the promo group made it. designer of it keeps silence. promo people are joking.
i understand dark being another side of the light.
but what do have nazis to do with a trance party? for me this whole thing means lack of creativiy, going with the stream of "dark" trend in trance music, overspeculating on darkness and its meaning, but mostly it means for me that these people dont understand connection between past, present and future.
i think of indians who portrayed kali in her mighty justified darkness.
but i dont feel any relation to nazis who in reality devasted so many countries, killed innocent people, created chaos, unhappiness, called for racism... this just happened 60 years ago and some of the people who were fighting in this horrible war are still alive.
why not put usama ben laden on the flyer?? he is from the dark side also - for that matter...
i can see alot of negative signs in present reality, but it doesnt mean i want to see those signs in a trance party as an unthought form of promotion... moreover - i can not neglect this kind of signs. i at least want to ask people who made this picture - what do they exacly mean? |
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TrancEisT
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Posted : Sep 18, 2005 01:14
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LOL
like flyers is our biggest problem with shitty parties.
lol, we should invite that red scary dude to be our door man at parties
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fire_dance
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Posted : Sep 18, 2005 03:02
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Eyerina +1, lack of creativity or bad taste (ethics<=>esthetics, no ethics<=>no esthetics).. It's written there that originally it was a joke addressed from one man to another.. i think it's ok, isn't it funny, that "dark" label taken too seriously by some artists..=) The man who decided to make a flyer out of it just didn't feel that the flyer is interpreted like some kind of (sub)cultural artifact.. remember, you didn't feel the anger about the same nazi symbols on the walls in Wolfenstein (or did you? than i have no comments %))
Maybe you can imagine the damage the nazis caused here in Russia during the biggest war.. for the older generation it was a great tragedy concerning their families and friends, but the younger preferred not to take it too seriously.. and it's clear, life is going on, and making fun of death (taking the tragedy away from public consciousness) is a good way to feel it.. after one famous 70s film about soviet agent in SS headquarters its heroes turned into Very Popular funny stories' heroes.. =)
Maybe now you have some clues about that flyer..=) (still i don't like it)
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tHuJoN
Freakulizer / Khainz
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Posted : Sep 18, 2005 04:11
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Thats something realy different ...
this sign on the flyer is not the Hitler Cross ... It's the sing for Love as far as i know In Thailand for Example a lot of ppl have this sing as Tatoo ... and exist mutch longer then the SS cross ...
Especialy on the flyer in the first Post ... i see the S are like a sawtooth ... not a wave ... and the sawtooth SS is exactly the sing like the one who the SS used and what thei had on the Uniform ...
in my eyes it just looks very stupid...and i would go to a party with sutch a scary flyer ...
it looks like a ticket to Hell ...
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eyerina
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Posted : Sep 18, 2005 04:20
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The Godfarter -sun swastika is not same to swastika from nazis, do you know history?
wolfenstsein i dont know what it is. computer game probably?
i made a reportage together with journalists from scotland about young nazis in modern russia, sorry for me its not funny.
i saw the movie you are talking about.
in my mind this flyer has no connection to trance. i dont want to be part of this and i will not be.
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gandharva
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Posted : Sep 18, 2005 06:39
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this is nothing to do with trance its very sad to see things like this related.and even more sad to see this in a ISRAtrance forum.dark se(SS)ion party ,very sad thing.And im glad to see who are the people related to this kind of event to banned them for my memory and from my music choises.i wish i´ve not seen a fuck***¨¨ïng this like this.
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Andrey
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Posted : Sep 18, 2005 08:34
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I don't know about a skulls, but if you guys talking about nazism, you're just ridiculous . S.S is abbreviation for Sound System. It's a Russians disease to call organisators The Sound System. Pretty stupid abbreviation, I know...
About skulls: You guys just didn't see some our Israeli "flyers" with bloodfonts and mistakes in artistnames. That is lack of creativity and bad taste for sure.
Sea>Israel>Ben-Gurion>Tel-Aviv>Ramat-Goa>Marom Neve
is this pure reality could we be led?
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