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___MichaelA
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Posted : Nov 12, 2000 20:31:55
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What does this symbol means?
All I know it's something indian.
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___shahar
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OM
The most sacred symbol in Hindu dharma. Aum (OM) is the sound of the infinite.
Aum is said to be the essence of all mantras, the highest of all matras or divine word (shabda), brahman (ultimate reality) itself. Aum is said to be the essence of the Vedas.
By sound and form, AUM symbolizes the infinite Brahman (ultimate reality) and the entire universe.
A stands for Creation
U stands for Preservation
M stands for Destruction or dissolution
This is representative of the Trinity of God in Hindu dharma (Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva)
The three portions of AUM relate to the states of waking, dream and deep sleep and the three gunas (rajas, satva, tamas)
The three letters also indicates three planes of existence, heaven (swarga), earth (martya) and netherworld (patala)
All the words produced by the human vocal organ can be represented by AUM. A is produced by the throat, U & M by the lips
In the Vedas, AUM is the sound of the Sun, the sound of Light. It is the sound of assent (affirmation) and ascent (it has an upward movement and uplifts the soul, as the sound of the divine eagle or falcon. There have been plenty of discussions on the significance and meaning of Aum. The following is a widely believed interpretation of Aum.
Of all names of God, Aum is the Supreme. Aum (also Om) is the most comprehensive name of God. Other names encompass only some aspects of God. That is the reason why Om signifies only God and nothing else where as other names stand for other things as well.
The word AUM (OM) is made up of three letters that express the three great aspects of GOD:
A - denotes the power of God to create the Universe.
U - denotes the power of God to preserve the Universe.
M - denotes the power of God to dissolve the Universe.
On this basis, God is known to Hindus by the three other names:
A - Brahma (Creator)
U - Vishnu (Preserver)
M - Shiva (Destroyer)
We cannot say that the symbol Aum, is of any particular linguistic origin- it is not even Sanskrit, the ancient language of India. The symbol, like the meaning, is universal and symbolizes the formless aspect of God.
1. Om is the equivalent of Amen (Judaism, Christianity), Aameen (Islam), Hum (Egyptian) faiths.
2. Om was the primordial sound through which the whole universe was created. Scientifically, The modern scientists agree that sound waves are very powerful and they can trigger off, physical existence.
3. Om is a sacred word and every mantra begins with it. Om signifies beginning or creation. Properly pronounced, Om should sound like AUM. There are seven psychical chakras (energy wheels) in our body situated along our spine (from the base of the spine to the top of the head). Aum connects three principal chakras (the solar plexus, which is just below the ribs above the navel, the throat chakra, and then the top of the head chakra). OM, or AUM, is the first letter of the Sanskrit alphabet. The significance is that it represents all the sounds in the universe combined. In the beginning there was nothing and then there was the Word, the word was Om and all of creation emanates from it.
"In the beginning was the Word,
the Word was with God,
and the Word was God"
AUM is not just a Sanskrit word, it is simply the Cosmic Vibration as it actually sounds. Whether we call it Pranava or Sbahda Brahman in Sanskrit or simply the Word in English, the Vibration itself, universally and uniquely, remains AUM. That is why it is said that Brahman is immanent and contained in AUM and, therefore invoking AUM is invoking the Supreme, and that AUM syllable alone is the true form of God. AUM not only denotes the name of' God, it also connotes His form, majesty and munificence. Whereas other names change with the changing forms, AUM is the imperishable name and form.
AUM has three characteristics:
(1) It is the sound of creation; that is why it is reverentially called the Word of God.
(2) It is full of intelligent, self-effulgent consciousness, i.e., it is Brahman Himself. The words we utter carry specific meaning and, no doubt, have potency, yet they have no awareness of their own. The cosmic vibration AUM, on the other hand, is Cosmic Awareness itself.
(3) It exists by its own right. It is important to appreciate that, by chanting AUM, we do not create AUM.
AUM is a cosmic vibration. It is not an incantation devised by us or a sound created by us. When we chant AUM, we merely try to create within ourselves a vibration, which is in sympathy with the cosmic vibration so that, for a time, we too are in tune with the cosmos and the totality known as God.
In other words, AUM represents not only the process as well as the power of creation, it is also the means of realizing that power; when one dives deep into the depths of silence, one hears this cosmic sound.
From "Self - A Study in a Circle"
... by krishnan Kaul
Aum Namah Shivaya
Aum: Also spelled Om. The mystic syllable of Hinduism, placed at the beginning of most sacred writings. As a mantra, it is pronounced aw (as in law), oo (as in zoo), mm. In common usage in several Indian languages, Aum means "yes, verily" or "hail."
Namah Shivaya: "Adoration (or homage) to Shiva." The supreme mantra of Shaivism, known as the Panchakshara or "five letters." Na is the Lord's veiling grace; Ma is the world; Shi is Shiva; Va is His revealing grace; Ya is the soul. The letters also represent the physical body: Na the legs; Ma the stomach; Si the shoulders; Va the mouth; Ya the eyes. Embodying the essence of Shaiva Siddhanta, it is found in the center of the central Veda (the Yajur) of the original three Vedas (Rig, Yajur, and Sama). (Krishna Yajur Veda, Taittiriya Samhita 4.5.8).
Aum Namah Sivaya is also translated as "I honor the divine within."
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___MichaelA
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Posted : Nov 11, 2000 23:14:56
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uhh... I think that answers my question... sorta...
Thanks Shahar :-) |
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___Max
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Posted : Nov 12, 2000 04:36:28
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I don't like those Indians/mystical bullshits in music. I don't like when an artist gimme orders about the way i gotta think. I respect people like X-Dream who make music and don't fool us with religious things on covers or tracks name. |
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___shahar
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Posted : Nov 12, 2000 08:52:03
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Max,
You surprise me, nobody gives you orders, if artists choose to use symbols in their art it's their choice. Your choice is to listen to the music or not. More than that, if an artist thinks that a certain symbol is of importance, it doesn't mean you have to think the same, even if you like the music.
Now, another thing- calling others beliefs bullshit is both inconsiderate and even unwise. Especially that we have some Indian ppl in our community and maybe others that believe in these symbols. There is a lot for all to learn from Indian culture, including this little collection of texts I've sent. Think about it.
Bom,
Shahar.
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___bagakid
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Posted : Nov 12, 2000 10:04:07
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Hi Max and Shahar,
Artists by using indian symbols, chants etc in their work, are not imposing anything on us, nor are they mixing music with religion.Many of them have been to India a countless number of times. Jorg, Avi Algranati, Duvdev, Riktam and Bansi, the list goes on. But they have been inspired by our age-old culture,and have returned to their respective countries only to implement what they have learnt. The result has been some divine ambient albums, Shpongle, Infinity Project - Mystical Experiences, and a whole lot of tribal trance. I for one love ethnic/oriental themes in music, and most trancers I know, enjoy the spirituality that goes with this fabulous culture we are all so obsessed with:)
Shahar - if u enjoy reading indian texts try some
of Sri Sri Ravi Shankar's work, he's world renowed for his 'Art of Living ' courses,and some of his books and practices are very interesing indeed.
bom bolenat:)
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___TrancEisT
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Posted : Nov 12, 2000 14:59:24
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From what i understood Om or Aum is a symbol of eternal love, freedom, peace and alot of other good things... i guess i was quite inaquarete.
Anyway i have 2 of them, 1 on my C.D player and 1 in my wallet.
Om is a cool symbol ;D
[img]http://members.blackbox.net/subhash.robin/_sei_still_/sei_still/om.gif[/img]
P.S: It was very hard understanding u shahar and it seems like u wrote the main idea 5 times just with other words :) |
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___shahar
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Posted : Nov 12, 2000 16:06:54
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Chaitu- Daneh vat! I'm currently reading the Ramayana plus some Krishnamurti, but I've wrote the name and will check it out. I know another Ravi Shankar and his music is often played in my house :-)
Talking about Indian music- do you think we can raise the interest of A.R. Rahman in collaborating with trance artists? Maybe doing some Indian oriented ambient? Or is he too famous and unreachable?
And Ron, what I posted was not something I wrote but a collection of 3 texts that are repeating some stuff, but also add to each other.
B(om),
Shahar. |
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___MichaelA
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Posted : Nov 12, 2000 18:49:35
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Speaking of orientalethnical themes, anyone here got some midi files of traditional oriental music (with sitars and stuff like that).
Or is this more appropriate for the music creation forum? |
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___TrancEisT
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Posted : Nov 12, 2000 18:55:25
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Micheal.. Nidlakta on the sitars ahh? :)
Anyway.... sahar.. it's obvius you didn't write that :)
And.. well.. let's keep the space cat bangi'n my head.
AdioZ
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___MichaelA
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Posted : Nov 12, 2000 19:08:34
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Sitars are nice!
I wrote something for it, sounds very relaxing. But I need to pump up the track, start some fast melodies, and I have no idea how. :(
So I'm looking for some midi files.
Let's keep the Message From God banging in my head :). |
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___bagakid
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Posted : Nov 12, 2000 20:11:50
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Hi Shahar,
Yes Ravi Shankars music is very popular here,
and his daughter now is making waves as well.
She plays the sitar and accompanies him, amazing talent for a teenager. About A.R.Rahman, this guy has become very famous here, since he is doing music for Bollywood (our version of Hollywood),
which means big money and a lot of fame. I think he did make some chilled music, called 'After 6am Trance', I'll look into that if you like.
But there is still so many..Pitambar Hariprasad Chaurasia is probably the most amazing flautist , you will forget Rajaram. Try to find some of his compostions,if you cant, let me know and I'll be happy to send you something.I know ppl who take him to Mussoorie, at the foothills of the himalayas, and he performs for them from midnight till about 4am, under a starry night sky,
while the audience just sits and listens and travels through different realms of consciousness(and subconsciousness)..sometimes better than a nite of pure dance, no:)?
and ..can you reccomend me some nice reading.I saw this book once at an airport, 'The Holy Land', but it referred to the state of Palestine, so i didnt pick it up. But if you can think of something, with a nice mixture of history and culture, let me know.
10 x
Chaitu. |
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___Max
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Posted : Nov 12, 2000 22:14:05
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Yeah i used too strong words. I can't say it's bullshits...i just wanted to say "i think it's bullshits...but i don't know".
The Christ on the cross is also the symbol of peace, eternity etc etc...and it's would be stupid to put it on a cover.
I don't have anything against Indians of course but hinduism is a religion as others...with good things and bad things as killings, casts etc etc.
That's why i don't like and i don't care about AUM etc etc.
But i don't have anything again ppl who take care of it...sorry if i offensed ppl ;) there was no bad intentions. |
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Posted : Nov 13, 2000 01:23:25
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Well I have to agree with Chaitu -
Hariprasad Chaurasia is the best fluitist I have heard ( together I guess with Jeanne Pierre Rampal, but completely different styles, eh ) so anyone into quality Hindi musik has to go for it.
Bom Bom,
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___TrancEisT
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Posted : Nov 13, 2000 22:58:26
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This music sounds interesting..
can somone please write down a name of a track ( it's called tracks too? no?) :)
i will download it and see if this is what i think it is.
Please give me a name of something that will tell me what u guys are talking about.
Something special.
Thanks.
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