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What is Isratrance, to you?
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Bloodclot
Bloodclot
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Posted : Nov 23, 2005 08:48
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Isratrance has been a learning experience for me. I was clueless about psytrance and the artists. Where they were from. Didnt know the big names etc. Met quite a few people here from different countries who've passed on alot of information to me 
Of course isra does have its share of assholes as the world does.. Can't avoid em! Hope this site never goes down!
PS: This is one place I can look for some crazy spelling mistakes!  haha. |
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shamanizer
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Posted : Nov 23, 2005 09:14
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I haven't heard Isratrance referring to music style before and therefore I'm gonna continue to comment the forum. I read the whole thread and apparently the first post is about music, but why not to comment both aspects of the thread.
For me the forum is a good source of psy related information and a place to exchange views about various issues, I usually come here only when I'm at work, so it is also a way to make a boring day a little bit nicer.
Actually its been only a year or so since I started to visit any forums in the internet and now I do it nearly daily.
Israeli trance, well, there's good and bad, personally I don't like full on so much, but there's all kinds of music produced in Israel.
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Pt.
IsraTrance Senior Member
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Posted : Nov 23, 2005 12:28
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On 2005-11-23 02:48, Surrender wrote:
am i the only one to never hear this term until now?
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well, in Norway, europe the term "Isratrance" is known. hehe, interesting to see that you havent heard the term before. And it might be because you acctually am from Israel, and you guys in Israel never used to or uses that term. You should, its a proud name. Isratrance.
And I knew alot of people would make comments aimed at the "forum" and not the "music". But thats ok, it was "a part of my plan" .. mmmoohahahha.. !!
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boommanu
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Posted : Nov 23, 2005 15:52
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this is a forum forme to pm some cool psycadelicgirls |
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Pt.
IsraTrance Senior Member
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Posted : Nov 23, 2005 15:54
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On 2005-11-23 15:52, boommanu wrote:
this is a forum forme to pm some cool psycadelicgirls
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Who's the cool psychedelic girls?
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Ov3rdos3
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Posted : Nov 23, 2005 17:24
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A forum about psytrance, where you cannot speak about other issues relating to psytrance, like bad producers, drugs, psycedelic experiences and humour (one of the most important things in the scene).
please correct me if im wrong though...my apologies if I am.
Isratrance is a great source for unrleased full-on dancefloor nuclear genocide tracks though. |
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Pt.
IsraTrance Senior Member
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Posted : Nov 23, 2005 17:27
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naaa.. your right. But relax, I'm here to preach about drugs. I'm the man on the inside 
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Surrender
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Posted : Nov 23, 2005 18:22
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On 2005-11-23 17:24, Ov3rdos3 wrote:
A forum about psytrance, where you cannot speak about other issues relating to psytrance, like bad producers, drugs, psycedelic experiences and humour (one of the most important things in the scene).
please correct me if im wrong though...my apologies if I am.
Isratrance is a great source for unrleased full-on dancefloor nuclear genocide tracks though.
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this is a view in my opinion of someone who has something against the ideas of this forum and wants to provoke on purpose... i dont even see why you need to be here, it doesnt seem that you enjoy it at all. you are free not to surf here, think about that each time you have these negative urges.
 "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Nov 23, 2005 18:57
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You are partially correct ov3rdos3, however, there are some reasons behind some of the restrictions.
"Love is a way of life"
(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna) |
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Ov3rdos3
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Posted : Nov 23, 2005 19:00
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Im sure their are many reasons. I like this forum, i just see its potential going to waste.
I mean, why can you talk about parties, but you cannot talk about the reality of drugs at parties?
Why can you talk about why an artist is so great, yet cannot say that they are bad (even if you back your statement up with fact)
Why can you talk about psycehdelic music, but not psychdelic experiences?
These are the realities of the scene, yet it just seems as if even talking about those things are taboo?
Surrender, seriously, im not trying to cause contoversy, if you can maybe tell me why these things are banned, i will see where you are coming from and understand your side of the story. |
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Nov 23, 2005 19:05
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On 2005-11-23 19:00, Ov3rdos3 wrote:
Im sure their are many reasons. I like this forum, i just see its potential going to waste.
I mean, why can you talk about parties, but you cannot talk about the reality of drugs at parties?
Why can you talk about psycehdelic music, but not psychdelic experiences?
These are the realities of the scene, yet it just seems as if even talking about those things are taboo?
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Yes, I agree.
"Love is a way of life"
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Surrender
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Posted : Nov 23, 2005 19:53
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the answer is not so complicated as it seems, so i will explain:
this forum and website was created by shahar and shivas in the late 90's. they had a vision of an online community to unite people who shared common ideas with them and wanted to have a space to talk about them. the main idea of the forum was and is trance music discussion, the main idea of the site was and is israeli trance music discussion in specific. the vision shahar had and realized was a place where drugs are not the main discussion, because he believes that they are unrelated to the discussion about music and usually bring along unwanted attention from various sources. so in the end they are counter productive to the cause of the place and to its mission statement... same thing goes for politics, religion and aggressive behaviors. they are counterproductive in the views of the creators of this place and do nothing for the advancement of the community. we think that there are plently of other places where you can get better information about drugs or politics, religion or anything that we dont think fits here. we simply dont want to advocate it here and by letting it be, we are condoning it and going against our own mission statement. when registering, everyone is ought to really read the guidlines and not just click "i agree". i think thats basic common sense for anywhere you go. we say those same things i just said pretty much there... there is a certain vision here, we dont wish to see bashing of any sort, we dont wish to have disrespect carried towards anyone, artists or anyone else, we dont wish to have our guidelines totally disregarded in short... its difficult sometimes and we are blamed for being "fascists" by the very same people who agreed to the guidelines, yet piss all over them and in turn on us. this is my answer anyway -
i pm'ed shahar and i hope he can give his view as well.
"On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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traveller
IsraTrance Senior Member
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Posted : Nov 24, 2005 11:51
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Well if this was about isratrance as music then.. old isratrance is good and new isratrance is well marketed crap.
"The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
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Ov3rdos3
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Posted : Nov 24, 2005 12:21
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Surrender: Ok, i guess that makes sense then. If it was the view of the creator to base this forums discussion soley on Trance Music and nothing else, i can respect that. I also agree that there are other sites that you can get information on, on other things, like drugs, and psychedelia.
I also agree that allowing that, would probably bring in a lot of people, who probably dont know anything about psytrance at all.
ok then. i have to admit i see your point. I wont push the matter any further then. Psytrance music is the heart of this forum, and in reality, if you want to talk shit about other things, there are other places to do it.
peace
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shahar
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Posted : Nov 24, 2005 16:43
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well, as one of the originators and the person who wrote the guidelines I have a lot to say about it. And that also relates to why I'm not part of the team running the forum anymore.
However, I'm way way way too busy this week, hopefully I can write about it next week, and make it all a bit more clear to you Overdose.
There is a logic and belief behind those guidelines. Try reading them again- I think they are very clear and the logic and belief behind them are very self-evident. It's a shame that (so I believe and feel) so few of the forum members actually read them and check if they fit into the way they see things before they join. If everybody would, there would have been no need for such interfering moderation.
As for drugs- there's no "no drugs" in the no-no's. And drugs are being discussed here as part of the trance experience. However- strictly drug topics were never welcomed. The Reason was that it is my belief that music has independent existence regardless of what motivated its creation. This site was always dedicated to music, I feel people can talk freely about music without anyone getting hurt (too badly anyway). I don't feel the same about drugs (and I do have some years of perspective). Now I think it's very important to discuss drugs, as dis/misinformation is the prime cause of drug damage, but this discussion should take place in places that deal with these subjects and took upon them that heavy responsibility (there are a few links on Isratrance- general/drugs, and I'm sure you are all familiar with other online communities of that sort). I personally never felt like I can take this responsibility on myself. That's why when drugs discussion arised, we always kindly asked people to take them to other more fitting places.
fooo... you see... already lost too much time... next week...
good weekend all
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M.K. Gandhi
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