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Trip-
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Posted : May 18, 2006 03:06
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On 2006-05-17 14:57, John wrote:
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On 2006-05-17 08:18, Trip- wrote:
THE focus of the live set is the performer - the human who's doing stuff live.
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I thought it was the music...
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ohh.. on what the performer is doing - in this case it's music 
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Star-Trooper
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Posted : May 18, 2006 11:54
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On 2006-05-14 20:03, shulman wrote:
i will upload a recording from our live show soon to our website so the guys who hasnt seen and heard it yet can hear the difference.
peace
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Hey Yaniv. Please do, and also keep up the live shows in Israel. More up north this time, will be good
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Pavel
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Posted : May 20, 2006 21:54
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On 2006-05-14 20:03, shulman wrote:
here are some pictures from the last show we did. we really enjoyed it and the energies were fantastic =)
(and plenty of beer too)
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/87394/forum/51
password for the pics gallery is: shukibuki
theres nothing like the energy of a real live show. people playing together and transmitting real music to the world.
were trying to change the whole concept of electronic live shows and i hope that the audience will enjoy it as well =)
i will upload a recording from our live show soon to our website so the guys who hasnt seen and heard it yet can hear the difference.
peace
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Yea, it was a nice show. Too short though (or was it the alcohol???)
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ori_k
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Posted : May 21, 2006 16:14
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the shulman live show kicks so mch arse!!!
that keyboard solo in ra he'ya totally blew me away...
man i can't wait to attend a shulmanl ive show again!
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shulman
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Posted : May 21, 2006 17:26
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Hi.
Just a quick update that we added a live recording of Sub6 Feat. Michele Adamson - Ra He'ya (Shulman Remix) to our website. The recording is available for free download.
Also we updated the download section of our website with some new wall papers and tunes.
Check it out... www.shulman.info
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Posted : Jun 20, 2006 01:09
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Posted : Jun 20, 2006 16:35
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nice read..
Quickie question: Aphex Twin. The times I've seen him (Sqeerpusher, Satan’s Tornado ect) live. I've noticed that they also "only" use a laptop. Standing like a duck in front of it, moving their mouse around. The thing about Aphex is that he does something with it. He actually builds and produces the music right there on the spot. Everything (almost) is spontaneous. Of course, I, like many feel that IDM artists are more allowed to do this. We expect it. But back to my question. Are there any chill/ambient producers (within the so called psy scene) that does similar things? .. And isn't, in basic, a DJ set just a DJ playing music. And a Live set a artist playing his own album/music to promote it? A live set doesn’t automatically include instruments. It can be both. I agree a little bit with Xerxes. I don’t mind it if (take Shulman) transform his electronic music into a real live set with all the instruments and what ever. But I certainly wouldn’t mind hearing him live without it either. I wouldn’t want my favourite ambient producers to go all live when I'm trying to float inside my cloud. A chill act has of course a better possibility to do this (since chill gives more opportunities then ambient). I guess both is fine, and I don’t mind either one of the options (Me like the rest I guess).
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Posted : Jun 21, 2006 20:48
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I strongly believe that live music should be without a safety net. Let's face it, if you are running a laptop with Ableton etc. you can drag in entire finished tracks just as easily as you can mix a few prepared loops together. When musicians making live music are in the eye-to-screen, hand-to-mouse position and could just as easily be checking their email, how involved can they be? How involved can you get?
Sure, this stuff will sound perfect, polished and slick but you may as well put on a CD...
If I dare, since I'm hardly unbiased, I'd recommend us: the Joint Intelligence Committee, as worth a listen. We do it all live and are prepared to create it before your very eyes using hardware synths, step sequencers, guitars, drum machines and loopers. We may not be pretty and we may not be organised but we'll improvise a chilled and mellow set consisting of ambience, grooves and bleeps whenever we get chance.
Check www.JointIntelligenceCommittee.com if you fancy some free examples of what we do. Apologies for blowing my own trumpet but it's one advantage of being double-jointed.
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MercuryFall
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Posted : Jun 22, 2006 12:29
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On 2006-06-21 20:48, shroomer wrote:
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Sure, this stuff will sound perfect, polished and slick but you may as well put on a CD...
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Don't agree: A CD is only 16-bits, and from your laptop you can play 24-bits or better music |
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tajmahal
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Posted : Jun 23, 2006 13:09
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Its true that it s not real live act it s much more presentation of the artist musik.
And if i well understood trance and chill world.
In here dj are not oftenly taking as serious artist.
And we do like to put in front compositor or musicians.
So what to do...
Because after the reality is materialistic.
For sure one real live act with four artist is beautifull to see and listen but it also means a lot of extra cost.
Personnally i love to see real live act.
But on the other hand i love to see many different type of sound in a chill or on trance stage.
i like diversity.
And laptop is sure the easy way to introduce new release of artist.
Mayeb we should writte live PA ,like this everybody knows what to expect.
A friend in Uk told me ones,that they were use to see Dat live act or laptop one.Because to bring on an island all the equipment was too expensive and risky.
So at the end what s matter to him was to listen the new productions of artist.
Now i understand the point of real musicians who can be frustrate to see live act been called live act.
Me i define myself as a compositor and dj .
i m not a musicians maybe next step i guess.
And so i thanks new technology to give me my chance to express myself.
kiss the future
taj
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shroomer
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Posted : Jun 23, 2006 22:54
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You're right - it *is* difficult, expensive, and much more likely to go wrong - or at least be not as perfect as we'd like. Only crazy people take the pile of gear we take on stage and only crazy people pretend we are as slick and studio-perfect as guys/gals with laptops. I admit it all.
And don't even get me started on my iffy piano playing. Plus we risk problems with MIDI sync, the wayward tuning of analogue synths and guitar; getting the mix right; all manner of things can go haywire, especially if we're in a relaxed frame of mind...
Yet still we do it because it's really, really good fun. Hopefully we're a little different - but NO WAY are we serious artists and we don't have any message. We just love making music and exploring wherever it goes.
I'm rambling now but it's Friday night and I'll be going out soon. Just getting in the mood..
Peace, love and taking it easy,
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koalakube
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Posted : Jun 25, 2006 09:35
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On 2006-06-22 12:29, MercuryFall wrote:
Don't agree: A CD is only 16-bits, and from your laptop you can play 24-bits or better music
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I wonder where people get those funny ideas about bit-depth.
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Posted : Jul 13, 2006 18:48
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Hello..
When I'm looking at the artist that plays with the mouse in front of the screen for some time - its OK, - and I even become exiting on what is going to happened later on… 
But after 3 hours at the same position, nothing is change = it is start to boring…
(and im not talking about the music – just on the way of performance)
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On 2006-05-14 23:45, Carbon Based Lifeforms wrote:
However, there's another thing that really expand the live performance and that is video.
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I agree, of course... 
I think VJs these days are becoming more and more effective and attractive.
Thou VJs are playing with their mouse in front of the screen too,
the different is that people doesnt look at the VJ to see how he works or what he does (it is irrelevant) as they watching the output on the big screens.
this is a big difference...
There are many ways that visuals can interact with live music,
Not just expressing the music with colors or tunnels (like winamp or mediaplayer), But more precisely visualize it…
Most VJs these days are working as independent,
I mean – reacting and mixing for the music they hear at the moment.
But "writing" or "recording" some specific visuals to play with specific music part,
Or sync both with MIDI and effecting on a live set – can make something different…
I think, The idea on a live-set is not just about the music, is all about the performance, the show, the ARTmosphere - and I think people are looking for something knew in the year 2006…
p.s - Nice topic – indeed…
shy / www.VJpurple-eye.net
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koalakube
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Posted : Jul 14, 2006 03:28
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On 2006-07-13 18:48, VJ purple eye wrote:
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I think, The idea on a live-set is not just about the music, is all about the performance, the show, the ARTmosphere - and I think people are looking for something knew in the year 2006…
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I think the idea of a live set is to actually playing in realtime your music.
What you describe ,to me , is like what a Musical is compared to a classical concert.
If the music is good enough I dont necessary need some other elements to be distracted with when i listen to some music.I am not saying it is bad if there are,but looks like there is too much importance nowdays on anything else than the music itself.
There was this Autechre gig in Nagoya,JApan last year.
Pitch black.Absolutely no light at all.Awsome.
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xerxes[no]
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Posted : Jul 14, 2006 11:06
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On 2006-07-14 03:28, koalakube wrote:
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On 2006-07-13 18:48, VJ purple eye wrote:
Hello..
I think, The idea on a live-set is not just about the music, is all about the performance, the show, the ARTmosphere - and I think people are looking for something knew in the year 2006…
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I think the idea of a live set is to actually playing in realtime your music.
What you describe ,to me , is like what a Musical is compared to a classical concert.
If the music is good enough I dont necessary need some other elements to be distracted with when i listen to some music.I am not saying it is bad if there are,but looks like there is too much importance nowdays on anything else than the music itself.
There was this Autechre gig in Nagoya,JApan last year.
Pitch black.Absolutely no light at all.Awsome.
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very well said, and i completely agree. focus on the music, not on the stage. just look how silly rock&roll bands look most of the time.. we dont want that for ourselves
peace,
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