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Video Interview with GOA GIL
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moki
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Posted : Sep 2, 2010 22:33
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On 2010-09-02 21:32, BrainLizzard wrote:
^ okay, i will watch the video, what should i pay attention to in this video?
Or what question should i take with me as i watch it?
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the part that he did not say even once that he is a guru:).
( if he had done this, i would be the first to doubt if it is okey to "present" spiritual wisdom, even for 5 euro per night and not for 17000 dollar). you cannot sell it, because in the moment you expect exchange, it is not spiritual wisdom any more.
i dont say money is always bad. of course there are also great human minds who did great things with money: built hospitals and schools, saved uncountable human minds etc. but generally money is the wrong thing to want as a spiritual teacher. or at least this is what i understood from the hundreds of biographies of great human minds i ever read about or heard of in my life.
the problem is, he did not say he is a guru. he is just an unique artist.
and still, for sure it does not cost 17000 dollar for everyone. i know people who got the same service for ten times less. how would you explain this?:)
or another question, what is the reason, that no one else can do the same thing among us??
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Sep 2, 2010 23:27
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On 2010-09-02 22:07, BrainLizzard wrote:
^ kinda.. Gil's first reason for even going solo was because he wanted to offer an experience that was cheaper and sorry to say he is very expensive, a trust safari-an who hasn't worked a day of labor his whole life unless you count being a baba as labor..
The venue he will only allow us to use per selfish reasons takes $35 per head, including car parking without all the other charges that come with it.. Gil knows this and doesn't care, so don't even try to pass off to your lizzard it's a fair price when it's not following the redefining of the trance dance experience..The venue sucks us dry and did me say, Gil doesn't care? $17000 for 18 hours, are you seriously saying this good?
It's in your best interest to stop speaking on the value of this event or your lizzard will get into your prices..Me has heard "I'm trying to make living" just about 3 times too much.. Don't now make excuses for someone who will not even play your own music, me can even tell you why..
Enough has been said about money so can we please evolve to more important things.. Me go watch thee movie now
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I wasn't making excuses, just commenting on relative value for money, ie. lineup cost vs. party length. I had no idea Gil insists on using a particular venue. I agree with you, in our little scene $5000 is a lot of money for a single set. If you want to talk about our fees, go ahead, we have nothing to hide or be ashamed of, but there's no need to get on my case on this subject.
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Sep 2, 2010 23:41
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^ it's all good Colin, me got confused for a second... Sorry to have came across in an aggressive manner towards you and money... Your lizzard has seen pleanty of peeps trying to justify what Gil does as an act of God like abilities and overlooks the real deal...I'm fully aware you aren't hiding things, we have had some great PM's and me respect your words
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Sep 3, 2010 00:03
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Sep 3, 2010 10:23
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Okay, i did my best to watch the movie but damn, its over an hour long, the same story I've heard a ton of times for the first 20 minutes.. I trust that he didn't use the word guru..
So whats the issue and why does Pavel and others feel he sux? For instance, why is Gil such a big deal that just about every thread topic gets shut down?
Is the music he plays that offensive? What's really goan on here?
Talk to me, please...
 
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Sep 3, 2010 11:04
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Okay me watch more of it, actully all but maybe 15 minutes just to give trance a chance in this topic ... The movie is a bit different than the average movie per a Gil video, good hit for this type of thread, so whats the issue?
 
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moki
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Posted : Sep 3, 2010 13:07
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trance has enough chances:))). there are more trance tracks than a lifetime would be enough to hear:). but give a chance to the psychedelic experience. in any form, a chance to the true psychedelic concept.
pavel likes to feel like it sux, because he is a strong emotional head and sucking feels good )). and besides it is a very old story which has been discussed in every detail. and everything that has gone beyond the zenit , bores:). and seriously, it is so old that even the link is not available in the first post any more. we need a new psychedelic ritual. we really do. give a chance to the world, to the third world countries, to the forgotten cultures, to the weak and poor. give a chance to your soul;:) |
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Sep 3, 2010 13:24
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Yeah, I still don’t understand what’s the deal about this sux/rox polarity. He explained in the video: he sees his sets as special experiences. He thinks they have to be set up and delivered in a certain way. He will not compromise on this. This is what he claimed in the video as a reason for doing it solo. This is fine with me. If he wants a particular venue, a million rupees and a dozen of underage hookers – that’s fine with me too. Take it or leave it. You think his demands are outlandish? You (or any other organizer) can always use that magic middle finger, no?
I went to Eric Clapton’s concert last summer. After walking for 20 minutes from parking (field) to the gates, I was told that “Eric requested things to be a certain way”, so our lawn chairs were 1” taller than what they “should be”. So, I had to go back to the car and leave our chairs, come back to the gates (through a much thicker crowd now), rent “correct” chairs. So much for a peaceful picnic with my wife before the concert. And why all that hoopla about chair heights, if everybody got up the minute he appeared on stage anyway? What I am trying to say is that Clapton obviously has enough clout to demand certain things, to play his songs with a grouchy face and not even once smile or address his audience – and still charge ridiculous amounts of money for this. I won’t go see him again. But thousands of others will. And thousands more will go see Gil too – obviously he has enough of a following in this scene and enough of a clout with organizers. Until enough people say No to his demands, he’s going to get his way. Simple economics.
It would be interesting to hear in more detail about “the Gil experience” from somebody who went through it. Something more than “it was awesome” or “it changed my life”. Like how the set progresses. Or do we really need it to be 18-24 hour long. And – if you are that brave – maybe touch on the whole “darkness” issue. To me personally this would be more interesting than his business dealings.
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*eLliSDee*
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Posted : Sep 3, 2010 17:08
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i'll wager 10000 rupees its not all that it promises to be. your paying for a brand name (an image if you will). marketing yourself as the godfather of trance certainly helps.
and in this case im raising the magic finger.
anycase ,i can have a TRULY psychedelic experience in my back yard. amongst the pigeons
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MR VOMERS
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Posted : Sep 3, 2010 21:18
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dosed pigeon trance mmm MM MM!!
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moki
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Posted : Sep 3, 2010 21:29
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On 2010-09-03 13:24, Maine Coon wrote:
It would be interesting to hear in more detail about “the Gil experience” from somebody who went through it. Something more than “it was awesome” or “it changed my life”. Like how the set progresses. Or do we really need it to be 18-24 hour long. And – if you are that brave – maybe touch on the whole “darkness” issue. To me personally this would be more interesting than his business dealings.
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and also it would be interesting to hear from females about their experience . if any of them ever felt " devoted" to this psychedelic experience ( and really to the experience and not to the star, to the father projection or to the strong patriarchs who come and save the world etc).
another question is, what would the trance world be if there had been a god mother in goa in those days.
generally, what would the scene be if it was not so patriarch-based.
from my point of view, i can only say that i believe patriarchies are wrong and will never ever be " pure". their karma will not be pure. never.
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Pavel
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Posted : Sep 3, 2010 22:14
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On 2010-09-03 10:23, BrainLizzard wrote:
Okay, i did my best to watch the movie but damn, its over an hour long, the same story I've heard a ton of times for the first 20 minutes.. I trust that he didn't use the word guru..
So whats the issue and why does Pavel and others feel he sux? For instance, why is Gil such a big deal that just about every thread topic gets shut down?
Is the music he plays that offensive? What's really goan on here?
Talk to me, please...
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I don't like the music he plays in the last 10 years. I don't like any kind of connection between music I love and religion. I used to love this music because it was fun, intense and intelligent. The music that he plays today is depressing, violent and completely random. Also, he has no DJ'ing skills even after so many years in the business. I do though, as a filthy capitalist, appreciate his ability to suck so much money and attention from people that mostly deny capitalism and would prefer to see a no money based society. I enjoy the irony here. I really love when people believe in one thing and act differently.
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mk47
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Posted : Sep 3, 2010 22:34
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this no time to be ambiguous , you on sux side or rox side ?
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Pavel
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Posted : Sep 3, 2010 22:52
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On 2010-09-03 22:34, mk47 wrote:
this no time to be ambiguous , you on sux side or rox side ?
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I am riding the official sux bandwagon.
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mk47
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Posted : Sep 3, 2010 22:59
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