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Video Interview with GOA GIL
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Aug 5, 2010 21:11
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I have to say, as far as city stereotypes go, those about SF are the most diverse I know. I’ve heard different people claim that everybody in SF is a
- hippie
- gay
- health nut
- junkie
- biotech executive
- socialist
- spoiled millionaire kid
- drifter
- Chinese
And now I find out they are also all Goa Gil worshipers and dark psy fans.
I’m very curious to see one person embodying all these definitions, not to mention the whole city of them. 
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rich
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Posted : Aug 5, 2010 21:46
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Actually, you can probably find all of those in one person in San Francisco haha
Jeez, just realized I'm none of those.
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moki
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Posted : Aug 5, 2010 22:07
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On 2010-08-04 00:34, Maine Coon wrote:
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On 2010-08-01 22:16, BrainLizzard wrote:
Hi tina! How comes youe sad? Will you summarize the video with the post in a few short words? Please 
"Anybody out there" who has read this thred willing to speak their voice in review? What happened?
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Hi, BrainLizzard.
Those are two different questions.
What the video is about is hard to explain beyond Tina’s description, unless I actually transcribe the whole interview.
What this thread is about is much easier to summarize:
Gil rox – Gil sux – rox – sux – rox – sux - ...
That and a little bit of this:
You’re a dimwit – you’re an idiot yourself – dimwit – idiot - ...
I personally got a feeling that most of this thread has nothing to do with the video (which can be found here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1339500396225064783#)
The video itself is interesting. For me, it was the first time I got to learn something about Goa Gil beyond the “Godfather of Psytrance” cliché and “sux-rox” opinions. Also, most of what he said agrees with me well, both emotionally and intellectually – even if it’s all just Gil's PR. And I don’t think this is just PR, at least not all of it.
One thing he said did not fit with the rest of the interview: when he claimed he's the only one who keeps Goa spirit pure. You can kinda see he did not intend to say that - an interesting slip...
As for comparing him to levitating saints and super-duper gurus: get a life, people! He himself explains more than once in this interview that this is not who he is.
P.S. Thank you, Tina.
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pleasure to me, i thank you for watching it and commenting it:).
btw i dont see this as PR too. people often tell me that i am doing PR for all those people on my website but i actually consider all of them as the psychedelic avantgard ( among lots of others that i never met) and this is why i present them only in a positive light.
there was a time, when i was thinking to start a " black column" on my website to critisize everything that i dont like in the psychedelic scene but at the end of the day it doesnt make sense. bad vibes can only resonate with bad vibes and i dont wanna have such vibes in my life. i prefer to have to do with ppl that i admire and like.
no, it wasnt pR, because it happened very spontaneously and even goa gil was surprised with the questions that came out and the whole discussion of 3 hours that we had, short before the party in berlin. it was honest and spontaneous.
as a matter of fact i find it " not okey" that there are organizers who use my video for advertising their events and dont even link to me and my website. to me, the overall impression is important.
but anyway i dont go to such events. "pure" is relative.
and as far as isratrance is concerned , we had at least 4 topics where we discussed this topic till now ( with more than 30 pages each) so i think it is more than enough what has been said.
thanks to everyone for watching. i would love to remake this whole thing but as a matter of fact, i got a life too....and also i still look for answers. too much questions in my head.
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consciousness
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Posted : Aug 5, 2010 22:18
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Shiranui
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Posted : Aug 5, 2010 22:19
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I didn't say "all people from SF", I said "people from SF" meaning some amount of people from SF. There are certainly many people in SF who think that 
Based on what little I've seen, I think there are two (maybe three now?) generations of trancepeople in the SF area. First are people from the golden days of 2004 and earlier, then there are the goa gil-worshipping darktrancers who tend to be a little younger, and now we have the raver kids who go to geomagnetic and tantra parties but are slowly opening their eyes to less-cheesy psytrance
(and yes of course there are people who don't fit into those categories but those categories describe a lot of people)
as for myself I want more parties with nice atmospheric fullon and groovy stuff like glowing flame, peak, nano type stuff and less israeli cheese and machinegun noisetrance. Pretty much the only place I can consistently get that is synchronize though  |
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Aug 5, 2010 22:22
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... and then there is Danielle Steel. |
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rich
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Posted : Aug 5, 2010 23:23
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... and the guy from Metallica.
Man both you guys really know how to stray off topic and you're taking me with you lol
Hey Shiranui so you live in SF? I don't go out too often (unless its for something groovy) but I do show up for stuff I like. I was at synchronize to see Spryos last night.
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moki
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Posted : Aug 6, 2010 00:54
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| Here's another long video interview with Goa Gil:
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i was almost going to ask for a summery of the interview too:)))). but no, i will watch this one right now in the airplane. hope to stay connected to isratrance above in the sky too:)))).
it is so long time since i havent seen goa gil and ariane...i am too honest but actually i miss the experience like hell. but i dont miss the violence on festivals. so i would seriously put a question in the air, which is this pureness that is talked about?
yes, throw stones on me for this question. the more you throw, the more pure it is.
but everything happens exactly in the right moment. i will observe a bit more before i ever visit a trance festival again. and who knows, it is also possible that i never have this experience again . in europe not anymore....
so thanks for the link.
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Aug 6, 2010 01:37
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What violence at festivals?  |
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saintcarl
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Posted : Aug 6, 2010 04:42
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You know all the Killer stuff that happens at festivals.
Shiranui, You forgot the old school generation from 95
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Aug 6, 2010 05:20
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On 2010-08-06 04:42, saintcarl wrote:
You know all the Killer stuff that happens at festivals.
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No, I don't.
I've never seen a single psy trancer in my life. The only things I know about parties and festivals are the things I read on IsraTrance - and this is the first time I read anything about violence.
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rich
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Posted : Aug 6, 2010 07:15
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Either she witnessed some fucked up guys doing stupid shit or she's referring to 'the vibe' that's been 'damaged'. Or both.
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moki
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Posted : Aug 6, 2010 10:12
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no i was talking about violence on me.
anyway, i think i grew over this with the time... but the real problem, that i find absolutely unbelievable, is that exactly the people who preach pureness , actually "support" the violent people on their events. i observe and cannot believe it.
there is something very contradictory in the whole thing and i promise to you that one day i will find the right way to say all these things in a remaked documentary about my personal meetings in the trance scene. from the point view of a woman. then you will definitely notice that i am not doing PR. but it will be an honest story that you should know. i just still look for the answers to do it right. and i actually would like to see goa gil again before that.
anyway , it was one of the saddest experiences in my life, when i looked for help in the trance community after i experienced the violence ( because i did not want to go to the police immediately) and all i saw was preaching about pureness and throwing stones on me for telling the truth. i will self censor my comment because written words are not enough.
i might never visit a festival again but i will remake all my videos from the years of trancing with a new message that i consider important to share.
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*eLliSDee*
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Posted : Aug 6, 2010 11:54
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On 2010-08-06 10:12, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
no i was talking about violence on me.
anyway, i think i grew over this with the time... but the real problem, that i find absolutely unbelievable, is that exactly the people who preach pureness , actually "support" the violent people on their events. i observe and cannot believe it.
there is something very contradictory in the whole thing and i promise to you that one day i will find the right way to say all these things in a remaked documentary about my personal meetings in the trance scene. from the point view of a woman. then you will definitely notice that i am not doing PR. but it will be an honest story that you should know. i just still look for the answers to do it right. and i actually would like to see goa gil again before that.
anyway , it was one of the saddest experiences in my life, when i looked for help in the trance community after i experienced the violence ( because i did not want to go to the police immediately) and all i saw was preaching about pureness and throwing stones on me for telling the truth. i will self censor my comment because written words are not enough.
i might never visit a festival again but i will remake all my videos from the years of trancing with a new message that i consider important to share.
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a honest documentary like you describe here would interest me a lot more than goa gil.
anyways,
where i live, i usually attend only small psy-trance gatherings.
these parties is not so advertised and usually word of them spreads by mouth.
at most 200 super polite and friendly peeps attend.
when you go to big festivals (+1000) it is inevitable that assholes will be there.
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Aug 6, 2010 19:10
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On 2010-08-06 10:12, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
anyway , it was one of the saddest experiences in my life, when i looked for help in the trance community after i experienced the violence ( because i did not want to go to the police immediately) and all i saw was preaching about pureness and throwing stones on me for telling the truth. i will self censor my comment because written words are not enough.
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I am sorry to hear that, Tina. I tried to search the Forum to see what happened but had no luck. I don’t know the story or a discussion about it. But it’s very easy to get into a flame war when you discuss something emotionally charged. Somebody may misunderstand you, somebody else just decides to be a jerk, you answer them, somebody else sees you as an aggressor. Before you know, you have people totally sidetracked from what you wrote in the beginning and just yelling at you. It happens more often in the online world than in real life.
I probably upset some people by waving my star spangled banner too often, but I’ll do it again. The First Amendment affirms your right to believe whatever you want and to speak your mind. The Second Amendment affirms your right to defend yourself. As far as I am concerned, the other 8 are not nearly as important. I did not mention it to start a political discussion or to suggest that the US is somehow enlightened. Just that I personally also believe that these rights are essential for any person. It has nothing to do with man-made law, in fact. So, maybe I could've done without flag waving afterall...
So, speak your mind whenever you need to. And if somebody is trying to shut you up – kick them in the nuts. Within the Forum’s guidelines, of course. 
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