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Very interesting article by Robert Rich
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shahar
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Posted : Apr 23, 2008 12:57:26
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About being a non-commercial artist in the Internet age...
http://robertrich.com/1000-true-fans-an-answer/
Excellent reading.
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maux
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shahar
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Here's something I think is relevant that I wrote originally upon request for Revolve magazine in the UK about 6 months ago.
Should we buy our music?
A question everyone with a computer faces these days is should I buy my music or should I just download it for free. Every musical piece that exists these days (and even some that don't) is available for download for free through myriad of ways. So should we buy our music? As someone who's been buying music and getting it in other ways for a long time, and as someone who has a label and is involved very much in our small alternative musical scene I want to offer some insights.
Let's go back in time… quite a long way back… when I started to get into music, I used to record music on cassettes - we didn't have much money, so we used to go 3-4 friends to a record store, each would buy one record, and then we would go back home and each would record the others' records to a tape. Downloading/sharing is the same, basically, isn't it? Both are illegal copying. Well, the scale is different. For one person who buys a CD, you have millions who share it with him. This does put us in danger of making music making something you can't live from, and that is especially true if you're not an artist that performs a lot (if you perform a lot, you might be able to live from shows).
The way I see it, this is a very simple thing. You want good music from artists and labels, you gotta make it possible for them to make it and live from it, especially when you're talking of underground music that doesn't have a big market, that doesn't have a commercial appeal. Draw your line, as long as you do all you can to support the music you love, it's OK. Once you cross that line and start getting something you really like for free, when you can afford to buy it, you choke the music, and then you won't have good music- very simple.
We have to get it into our minds, that if we don't give back to the music we like- it will deteriorate, and finally disappear. The good artists that devote themselves to their art, that work professionally, that walk new paths, will quit or go where the money is (commercial music). The good labels that present an interesting musical vision, invest in their artists and develop them, will dwindle and die. This is already happening and for quite a while. Let's no kid ourselves, good original, mature, deep, professionally made music is very hard to come by in our scene.
Music, as all forms of art, was never in history a profitable business. Musicians and music institutes were always supported, by kings, by aristocrats, by governments. We live in a better age- it is in our hands to support the musicians we like and the music we like. Let's do it. It can work.
So, if you like it- support it, buy it!!! If you don't- you won't have more of it. Very simple.
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"Be the change you want to see in the world!"
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Bonji
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Posted : Apr 24, 2008 00:43
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Simple and true.
All the way with you Shahar!!!
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DjSchofield
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That article is quite interesting.
And good words from Shahar there as well. I've struggled with this myself from time to time.
Music is my passion and I spend all the money I can afford to on it (which has been a lot over the years!) . But now that I am "settling down" so to speak I have a partner, mortgage and baby on the way, so whilst I won't be stopping buying music, I certainly can't afford to spend as much as I used to.
It has been my view that I should spend what money I can afford on the music that I love, in order to support the scene and the musicians I enjoy. But once I have spent what I can afford, I will try to get other music by other means (often pooled with physical friends who bought it, as mentioned above). Usually it's music that I don't feel as strongly about and *may* not have spent money on anyweay.
Getting music for free still doesn't sit as well with me as it could, but I am coming to terms with it. Especially as now that I am no longer single I can't spend $100's on it each month or two (it's now a lot less than that dammit!).
But I do still spend what I can on it, and I wait patiently until there's a nice wishlist for an order from Saiko that's worth placing.
As I deejay every now and again (not for money), I am careful about selecting the music I do buy, to make sure that everything I play in a set is paid for. And 99% of it has been (sometimes I can't wait until I've purchased it). I'm aiming on making this 100% in the future.
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maux
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Posted : Apr 24, 2008 01:42
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it is not only a question of buying it....
it does also matter from who you buy it...since most of the time the major profit will go to the middleman.
I think that money should come also from the producers of hardware (and big software) and media corporates who are doing huge profits selling boxes that would be empty and useless without......music......
sony, apple, microsoft, murdock, philips etc etc they should all pay a percentage to the music industry...
create foundations to help music creativity....invest money in it....
and instead what it will soon happen is that music will be for free.....in constant streaming wifi everywhere....the sponsors (coca cola-starbucks...etcetc) will pay with the advertisment money.....and we will get only crap...everywhere...all the time....for free.
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Posted : Apr 26, 2008 23:59
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There will always be good music, because some people care even if they have to suffer, or because they have already money
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MARGHERITA
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Posted : Apr 27, 2008 00:48
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There will always be good music, because some people care even if they have to suffer, or because they have already money
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you have a very wise comment here,,,
thank you very much for know better than us (artists) what is the best for music future,,
do you like P2P ?
im sure yes....
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journey
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Posted : Apr 27, 2008 01:52
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On 2008-04-26 23:59, journey wrote:
There will always be good music, because some people care even if they have to suffer, or because they have already money
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you have a very wise comment here,,,
thank you very much for know better than us (artists) what is the best for music future,,
do you like P2P ?
im sure yes....
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haha you call yourself an artist, give me a break you make me lough
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maka
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Posted : Apr 27, 2008 01:58
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On 2008-04-27 00:48, MARGHERITA wrote:
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On 2008-04-26 23:59, journey wrote:
There will always be good music, because some people care even if they have to suffer, or because they have already money
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you have a very wise comment here,,,
thank you very much for know better than us (artists) what is the best for music future,,
do you like P2P ?
im sure yes....
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us artists, you are talking for?
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MARGHERITA
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Posted : Apr 27, 2008 01:59
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On 2008-04-26 23:59, journey wrote:
There will always be good music, because some people care even if they have to suffer, or because they have already money
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you have a very wise comment here,,,
thank you very much for know better than us (artists) what is the best for music future,,
do you like P2P ?
im sure yes....
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haha you call yourself an artist, give me a break you make me lough
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laugh if you like,
but im living from my music,
not the same for many pseudo amateurs, rated into this lovely forum.
wich they are allways working a money/job for pay theird bilds.
so, laugh , if you like...... 
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MARGHERITA
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Posted : Apr 27, 2008 02:01
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Maka,
your avatar prouve your higher state of cosnciousness.
walt disney state of mind,
that very very nice.
btw,
another post trashed by the entheo mob
sorry shahar, it was not my intention.
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Posted : Apr 27, 2008 02:07
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On 2008-04-27 01:59, MARGHERITA wrote:
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On 2008-04-27 01:52, journey wrote:
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On 2008-04-27 00:48, MARGHERITA wrote:
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On 2008-04-26 23:59, journey wrote:
There will always be good music, because some people care even if they have to suffer, or because they have already money
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you have a very wise comment here,,,
thank you very much for know better than us (artists) what is the best for music future,,
do you like P2P ?
im sure yes....
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haha you call yourself an artist, give me a break you make me lough
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laugh if you like,
but im living from my music,
not the same for many pseudo amateurs, rated into this lovely forum.
wich they are allways working a money/job for pay theird bilds.
so, laugh , if you like......
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and happily ever after.
whats a bilds?
Maybe you learn to write and speak first then we talk about music
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andrew interchill
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Posted : Apr 27, 2008 02:30
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good article links... nice one for revolve too shahar
journey and maka... start a different topic to vent your opinions... you are offering nothing, so far, to this one.
the 1000 true fans is a realistic goal... most cd's are purchased by collectors - people who choose to support when they know they could get the music for free.
for artists - make sure you play live as much as you can, and always travel with a box full of your cd's. people will usually get their $ out if they know it is going straight to you.
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