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PoM
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Posted : Mar 5, 2014 19:44
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On 2014-03-05 18:01, UnderTow wrote:

I can get interesting bass sounds out of it. Here is a little example: http://puretone.nl/files/Massive%20Example.wav





will check on monitors when i can,there is sometimes something in the mid highs on massive that i don t like..dunno if i m only one?
do you use the saturation in fx section? i find it can give good result
Diagnosed Hippie
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Posted : Mar 5, 2014 20:01
i'v used massive a lot in my older tracks, but for me et doesn't sound clicky enough, something with attack i guess, but i really like the sound of the saw's though. maybe i should try out that performer thing
jizy
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Posted : Mar 5, 2014 20:07
nice bass undertow.... although its easy to get a better understanding with out the percs etc
PoM
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Posted : Mar 5, 2014 21:22
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On 2014-03-05 20:01, Diagnosed Hippie wrote:
i'v used massive a lot in my older tracks, but for me et doesn't sound clicky enough, something with attack i guess, but i really like the sound of the saw's though. maybe i should try out that performer thing



i think it s cause the envelops attack are linear..but yeah attack is rounded smoothed when cheking on oscilloscope. the phase reset somewhere more clicky could help
frisbeehead
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Posted : Mar 5, 2014 21:59
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On 2014-03-05 17:42, UnderTow wrote:
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On 2014-03-05 15:48, frisbeehead wrote:

Same way it's funny to see people claiming some instrument is old and dusty and then using crazy chains that will fuck up the signal anyways - so there goes all the purity of signal.



What it so important about the purity of the signal? If something sounds better, it is better.

UnderTow



that's a bit out of context, don't you think?

think this should be obvious enough. some people here claim that VB-1 is "lofi" or "old", without really contributing much to sustain such claims. I didn't raise the issue, someone else did.

if it sounds better, it's better. but many times people think it sounds better just because it sounds louder or more agressive.

the topic here is VB-1, right? I was talking about it, wasn't the one attacking it and deviating into - just another one out of thousands - of gear stlutz like endless and pointless conversations about what people like to use for Bass. said it all along: it's a matter of taste, you can use whatever you want, some chains may seem to sound better, but are actually fucking up in a lot of places (if you don't care, fine! not my music anyway!); what's more? impossible to sound good with VB-1? there's better music made using it then anything you'll ever come up with, isn't that so?

and tell me please... people here with golden ears, able to ear artifacts in almost any synthesizer. can you even picture how fucking ridiculous that is? Urs Heckman doesn't spot this, but all hail mr "I read gear slutz a lot" for being able to ear it, though only providing highly subjective claims.

so, let's see: if it sounds better, it's better. if you think so, then it must be true to, no? that's cool. but if you want to have a discussion here, try and be honest and not quote me out of context. rant over

jizy
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Posted : Mar 5, 2014 22:28
trilogy has terrable artifacts... its why its a dam good job they included the sample start nipple....

i too have also jumped on the massive bandwagon and came up with this.i will write this tune eventually..lol eventually
yaawwwnn

and also freesbi.... where did u grab that VB1 for ableton, im going to have to have ago and learn to love it... like fat woman... they need love too right?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/aj4kyw7pj9mz8iw/Massive%20bass%20test.wav


frisbeehead
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Posted : Mar 5, 2014 22:49
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On 2014-03-03 10:21, PoM wrote:
i didnt check but i really don t like zebra saw ,sure with eq process you will end up with a good sound..but the source quality is mehhh

diva and ace are much better at psybass imo



let's be serious, starting:

which sawtooth wave would that be?

http://www.sendspace.com/file/fjf38d



'cause it can go from a perfect one to almost anything you can imagine... conclusion?
jizy
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Posted : Mar 5, 2014 22:52
he probably means the quality of which it was recorded in..... sawtooth quality , the quality of the sound waves
in the same way i dont like Albinos Sawtooth nor do i its flappy filters....

so nuthing about "Placebo" because i actually like the GUI on albino
frisbeehead
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Posted : Mar 5, 2014 22:53
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On 2014-03-05 22:28, jizy wrote:


and also freesbi.... where did u grab that VB1 for ableton, im going to have to have ago and learn to love it... like fat woman... they need love too right?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/aj4kyw7pj9mz8iw/Massive%20bass%20test.wav






yeah, like fat woman XD here you go m8:

http://www.steinberg.net/en/support/unsupported_products/vst_classics_vol_1.html
frisbeehead
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Posted : Mar 5, 2014 22:53
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On 2014-03-05 22:52, jizy wrote:
he probably means the quality of which it was recorded in..... sawtooth quality , the quality of the sound waves




wasn't recorded. it's generated in real time XD
frisbeehead
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Posted : Mar 5, 2014 22:57
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On 2014-03-03 00:36, UnderTow wrote:
Interesting. There is a certain tension indeed. I think it might be because it is out of tune. (

UnderTow



let's analyse it then, with a tuner
jizy
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Posted : Mar 5, 2014 22:58
cool... thanks , right im guna do it im guna bloody do it ..

realtime,, oh ok then maybe the generators lol or orrrrrr would how good or expensive your Audio interface and the sample rates could makea difference in how the Osc sounds? vary to peep to people ...

and how the hel does a digital generator work as apose to an analog one? and the fuck was digital even invented... who's inventing this shit,how and why cant i lol!
frisbeehead
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Posted : Mar 5, 2014 23:10
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On 2014-03-05 22:58, jizy wrote:
cool... thanks , right im guna do it im guna bloody do it ..

realtime,, oh ok then maybe the generators lol or orrrrrr would how good or expensive your Audio interface and the sample rates could makea difference in how the Osc sounds? vary to peep to people



beats the hell out of me...
jizy
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Posted : Mar 6, 2014 00:50
what do u mean? in the same way an expensive graphics card would display graphics better...

i remember when i first bought an audio interface and hearing the absolute difference in quality ! so mayb poms got an audiophile worth £45

so mayb vb1 would sound heaven in say a card worth £500 inside the sound of a pair of Sennihizer HD650'S
jizy
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Posted : Mar 6, 2014 04:47
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On 2014-03-05 22:53, frisbeehead wrote:
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On 2014-03-05 22:28, jizy wrote:


and also freesbi.... where did u grab that VB1 for ableton, im going to have to have ago and learn to love it... like fat woman... they need love too right?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/aj4kyw7pj9mz8iw/Massive%20bass%20test.wav






yeah, like fat woman XD here you go m8:

http://www.steinberg.net/en/support/unsupported_products/vst_classics_vol_1.html



I spent some hours, the last time i used vb1 was 6years ago,heres the result....

one in context one with out

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tzhbi5077qciu9e/Sooty%20%26%20sweep%20on%20acid.wav

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4vu969ph6dmxv9k/Sooty%20%26%20sweep%20on%20acid%20%28Just%20kb1fx%29.wav

i called it ..Sooty & Sweep On Acid
Kick - Bazzism 2.4
Sooty & sweep - Omnisphere
oh and bare in mind its late i had no choice but to go headphone... either way..well..it was fun
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