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marSpider


Started Topics :  8
Posts :  46
Posted : Jun 1, 2006 03:27
Quote:

On 2006-01-18 13:58, Spasm wrote:
I think we shoud do a school of trance, so that people would behave in a party, once and for all.

The classes would be:

. learn how to dance, (some people really need a help).

. Rolling a fat one (indoors and outdoors).

. Learn how to dress properly to a trance event.

. A guide on how to go through 1.000 people with 3 beers in the hands.

. Learn how to properly ask the DJ to play "the one with the guitars!!!".

. Orientation technics (good for arriving at the party).

its not enough i know, but it could be developed.



This one is going to be a long post...
now to start some of you might know me, at least gordon shumway does, Hi sorry about the last time i saw you you're a nice guy...the necessary times to die to be born again.
this quote is a perfect example of what i'm abou to say, people think their religious just because they attach to external symbols...
...
The classes would be:

. learn how to dance, (some people really need a help).

. Learn how to dress properly to a trance event.

is this a new trance degree?!?!??! you should become a trance teacher...
now to clean some dirth i have stuck for a long time....

do you go to parties to critic how others dance or dress?!?! IS THAT IMPORTANT ???
I don't dance in public besides one or two times because of a mental block of some kind now i realize that mental block comes first from some personal issues and second from people like you, if i got your post correctly...
my scene in truth is chillout... smoke some,...,... and talk to other people either with my mouth open or closed or just be introspective,i stoped going to parties on an evolutionary process which involved a lot of reasons already mentioned in other posts and most important even my "ex"-friends started inviting some of those parasites to their birthday parties, in fact general society parasites "nice" people who live on others earnings all smiles and stuff but when you spend some time with them, they show who they really are,___((( i felt that but for some reason i pretended it didn't matter, well IT DOES I miss going to a party leaving my stuff somewhere, "loose" mysef for a while, join this and that people and go back to the same place i was and get my things back )))___ those people mentality "now, i take a cake to the party this is worth 3 euros plus electricity if i sell my other receit ingredients i'll earn XTPO" loooooool this is the kind of nice guys and girls around...
get on your back and say this and that about this or that guy/girl... pffff and you know the rest of the story... quem conta um conto acrescenta um ponto/who account a story adds a point... o mais ridiculo é que de alguma forma com o tempo são os pontos que contam o conto...in time the points themself tell the story, isto para não falar das verdadeiras banhadas em algumas aquisições... o lucro já não deve ser suficiente/this not to mention of the trully bathed acquisitions some times... the profit most not be enough...
now i leave some links to my amateur yet loved music

chill
http://www.acidplanet.com/hypnosense
hi BPM weirdness
http://www.acidplanet.com/jaiha

one more link i really liked this track
http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=775152&t=3677
          does the signature for me ---www.acidplanet.com/hypnosense
Spasm


Started Topics :  3
Posts :  358
Posted : Jun 1, 2006 17:26
First of all, we dont know each other at all, never talked with you b4 .. at least i think so.

Second they the idea of a school of trance was a joke..

Therefore the dance classes and the other subjects were a joke too... with a pinch of irony,.. or maybe not...

This misunderstanding happened beacause we are not seeing each others faces when we write down our ideas, and sometimes this happens.

anyway since you brought back something i wrote 3 months ago, and you took your time to write such a long reply about it i feel i must give you some feedback.

Quote:
you should become a trance teacher...



Believe it or not, i already gave my share of trance classes.

Quote:
do you go to parties to critic how others dance or dress?!?! IS THAT IMPORTANT ???



It was a joke, so its not important for me, but i could if i wanted to, and sometimes i do, i'm no hipocrit.
But mostly when i someone making a fool out of themselves, or messing with other people.

Quote:
mental block comes first from some personal issues and second from people like you



From people like me? But you dont even know me.

A "Mental block" whatever that means, is a personal issue, since its your brain, its your "Mente", you are creating that block, you are responsible, not others, and specially not me.

I go to trance parties for over 10 years now, and never had any kind of block myself, and if i did i would not go out there saying that others "blocked" me.

I just stoped going to psy parties for over 3 years now, beacause i just cant stand the music no more basicaly.

So that's MY problem ok?

cheers
marSpider


Started Topics :  8
Posts :  46
Posted : Jun 1, 2006 20:14
Quote:

.... a mental block of some kind now i realize that mental block comes first from some personal issues and second from people like you, if i got your post correctly...


I was trying to make a point with your post not you..., sure, i don't know you and was in doubt about what you ment, so...sorry
Quote:

"if i got your post correctly..."


either way there are people that really think like that, to them going to a party is about how many contacts they can make(lucrative kind of contact...$$$) to others is kind of an alternative model show and too me how you dress is something i don't really care about even more if you're in the middle of nowhere "open air party's"

Quote:

my scene in truth is chillout... smoke some,...,...


that's my personal issue, that, music and other people(yes either you like it or not it's also a main party problem, it's called AMBIENTE and that is created by who goes to party's and you tell me you stoped going just because of music? don't be so naive about yourself... sure maybe i shouldn't talk about it in public but i felt like doing it and i'm no hipocrit either) and share your opinion about music, the formula based music making... same kick/bass combination everytime it's absolutly annoying the stupid samples replacing melody, most of the times they don't make sense anyway... guess they must start a music with all samples patched and loaded... pfffffff           does the signature for me ---www.acidplanet.com/hypnosense
rupps


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Posts :  33
Posted : Jun 2, 2006 22:28
hi mates!

just wanna give my 2 cents about all this... I'm from spain, the trance scene here is pretty small and underground. I often move to Portugal to enjoy the excellent scene there.

I think I match in the kind of people described in the very first message of this thread: amateur dj and producer with other friends alike that join forces and work hard to occasionally host some trance parties in madrid.

And I think it is not bad... We don't mean to compete about "who is a real trance kid" "who is a mitra" or whatever.... The real trancers IMHO are not:

* People that go to parties or festival with ugly faces to denote something is not perfect for them

* People that show up with arrogant faces in the middle of an excellent, full-moon night, because the people is not "trancer enough" for him/her to be there, that the party is not worth his/her presence

* People that gets angry because the organizers ask for a little money. That's not the spirit! they say. How dare somebody ask "ME" for money? they don't know who "I" am! - they say ... well... it's sometimes quite annoying and frustrating to have these "real trancers" fucking your party. These people might think that the organizers were taking a walk when, in the middle of nowhere, they found a dance floor, a soundsystem, tens of kilos of fluor deco, cold ice, cold water and beers.... fuck! I do amateur parties as I said before, and each party we invest around 1200€, and most of the times it is money we lose. But if I can see people having a great time, enjoying the nature, enjoying themselves, if I can play and make some people happy, that's enough for me.

Summing up, everytime I host or go to any party, including big festivals such as BOOM and alike, I found two kinds of people

* Those who are "real trancers", that think everything is a shit, because it is very cool to think that way.

* People who is just enjoying the atmosphere, the environment, knowing people, talking, dancing.... regardless of their phisical appearence, how they dress, how many record labels they know or how many producers are friends of him/her.

I personally prefer the latter.

See you all at BOOM 2k6 !!!!!!!!!!!!1


Overhuman
Overhuman Project

Started Topics :  29
Posts :  320
Posted : Dec 9, 2006 19:20
Quote:

On 2006-02-22 16:27, sy000321 wrote:
i dl some tracks from overhuman, they're related to the psylosophy, and they're the regular dark night sounds. nothing too original, only if you think a "knight rider alike" bass line is

hope they live to what they preach

yeap.. and symbiose didn't reply about the groovy madmax dj, the compilation or the label...



Mr.
All i can say.. in first instance. is maybe as u said ..u download it. did u have the skills to at least pay for some to have that tracks in your pc.. ? no isnt? ok .. so next point is.. if.. psylospophy is not on your musical mood all i can tell you is that probally they are doing more than u could do writing here all day stiiing on a chair with this : i dont want to harm any egos here ; all im saying is that this guys at least bother for doing something with their own and their own way... what do u expect fractals and psychedelic pink colors all the windows? u should really open your mind, anyway.. they probably dont even care about what u say and if u said it.. they will be enoguh proud of seen fullfilled their 1st objective : that people could treat them as nothing more that simple guys doing music and partys .. to get fun.           30th of August first delivery money back.
sy000321
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  46
Posts :  1142
Posted : Dec 12, 2006 06:09
Quote:

On 2006-12-09 19:20, Overhuman wrote:
Mr.
All i can say.. in first instance. is maybe as u said ..u download it. did u have the skills to at least pay for some to have that tracks in your pc.. ? no isnt? ok



they were a free dl at some site... yours or philosophy i think. 9 months ago by the post data.. i enjoyed the free music concept, really

are you criticising me for accepting your offer???


Quote:

On 2006-12-09 19:20, Overhuman wrote:
.. so next point is.. if.. psylospophy is not on your musical mood



why you say that? sounds like you're trying to pick up a fight...


Quote:

On 2006-12-09 19:20, Overhuman wrote:
all i can tell you is that probally they are doing more than u could do writing here all day stiiing on a chair with this



maybe if you spent more time producing than judging people you were sounding much better...

i dont spend my whole day here writing. c'mon... grow up...


Quote:

On 2006-12-09 19:20, Overhuman wrote:
: i dont want to harm any egos here ; all im saying is that this guys at least bother for doing something with their own and their own way... what do u expect fractals and psychedelic pink colors all the windows? u should really open your mind, anyway.. they probably dont even care about what u say and if u said it.. they will be enoguh proud of seen fullfilled their 1st objective : that people could treat them as nothing more that simple guys doing music and partys .. to get fun.



in fact i did enjoy the music. its was not very good but the atitude was worth much more than this lousy post of your.

want me to say it was VERY GOOD??? VERY ORIGINAL??? killlergghhhh ??? it wasnt. it was barely listenable.

i cant care less about "pink fractals" or whatever but i do care about good music and i must say im disapointed with your post.

it's really annoying you took the time to write those angry words with misconceptions about my intentions.

in first place i did take some time to DL some of your work at a time i didnt even have a home net connection and wsnt downloading anything else.

i also gave my honest opinion about how i think the tracks sound, that's more than you'll ever get from most people.

if your friends are saying that stuff is VERY GOOD, they're lying.

so, please think again before passing your bad judgement about me and my intentions. maybe you just dont understand english.

It's very sad that isratrance is filled with this kind of posts from producers, you really should accept coments better...

please keep doing music, going to partyes, releasing stuff

take care with your temper, mr overhuman, ok?


grettings to colombia too

peace
          roll a joint or STFU :)
Overhuman
Overhuman Project

Started Topics :  29
Posts :  320
Posted : Dec 12, 2006 06:29
hahaha lol. Dont make me laugh:
Mr. i dont care

Now im the one of bad judgements? ..
Sorry if i dissapointed u dude and yes i understand very well english; listen 2 this:
if answer to your coments.. means diaspointing you then its a pitty ; and yes i disapointed u then ; anyway i dont expect to like everyone.,, and if some people has told me im good i will totally believe , lucky im to have sinceer and fellow portuguese friends from psylosphy and others.. only u are the one from strange temper . and if they said im not good as u are saying i will hear also... is just the way to say things .. with no ironically situations mr. kinght rider blah blah ..wahtever, i will close this now topic here now, and follow to your post.....keeping producing.. and triying to get better everyday cause im not perfect

c ya bro.. and thx for the support love you!!!!!
          30th of August first delivery money back.
sy000321
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  46
Posts :  1142
Posted : Dec 12, 2006 22:24

just for the record...

i'm listening to the track neuroconfusion and it sounds much better than the ones i DLed at that time

          roll a joint or STFU :)
nannae


Started Topics :  2
Posts :  9
Posted : Dec 14, 2006 07:44
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etnarama:: you forget about me!!

i will no response to everything post in this topic, because i have more things too do!

note::where in portugal we are very retarded!! and the portuguese trance scene (in general), follow the same rules!

-- i will leave some sub-topics here...

*for example, i don`t identify any "portuguese psy-trance music style", but i recognize kind of styles in russia, south africa, israel, germany,...there are a lot more!!

why this happens?

since you are in england, probably you have a different perspective,.. please! use your ideas in a constructive way!

*"mrs augusto.s" there are a lot!!
i personally (no neighbours!), by my own, created 4.dj sets, 1.act and other name for my artist side, and behind them there was also a name (not my real name!), for representing the whole package..

for know,.. i only maintain 3 of them: the dj, the act (this two, hope to be some day! not for the money..) and the artistic name i am already!

conclusion:: creation as no "limits"!! creativity the same,.. hallucinating and craziness, we have a lot of that shit!

*there is no professional strategy, support and access (virus!) for "all" individuals/collectives in portugal!

all by their own! save yourself!

*"underground" still exist! because if we have mainstream, we have underground,.. if we have underground we have mainstream,.. it`s like day and night.
...particullary, "we" the humans, have this quality of understanding this things,.. it`s a more easier way to understand this world full of shit!

soo don`t put any question about this point! just believe it!

*psylosophy and all the "crap" they say, because they probably are ilegal (this fucking bastars!), have their own fresh ideas for their own interests,.. soo let them be as they want to be, they know what they want,.. so let it be (i love this song!)

*there is another one label with fresh ideas!

*i invite you/everyone to find the following links::

http://thirdvision.blogsome.com/
http://nannae.deviantart.com/

it will be really sick shit and for sure more reasons to post about it or better don`t post about it!! just forget it!!

--please, don`t close your eyes to any kind of creation with good intentions, other way forget them, with no support or attention, they will disappear, at least in your mind--

«keep making questions, it`s one way to figure it out, hope you understand my thoughts»

light on, dark off, no.. dark of, light in, shit!!!!! dark on, light off,.. nevermind
nannae


Started Topics :  2
Posts :  9
Posted : Dec 14, 2006 16:33
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wait, one thought more!

do you want to talk about tha "descobrimentos", just because we all learn that way in school and i think it`s still the same!

«we will bring you the power of cross, SAVE ME LORD,...»

primitivism = civilization

..and about the people send to africa, fighting for what!?

..and the content of television,.. well this have a good/easy explanation, we all know that

..hey!! and what do you think about boom!! what it was and what it is going to be?!

..rock in rio!?.. sorry,.. the one made in portugal

..compare portugal with the others e.u. countrys, one by one,...

«ohhhhh,... uuugrrrrrhhh, this is so sick!!»
..i am considerating about to join you in england!

...the use of raves like a tool for forget tha shit world we live!..and more,.. the ones are making it to earn money! loll

«fuck, fuck, fuckkkkk thissssss shitttt!!!!»

----if i start to enumerate all this shit thoughts (forgive my sister! i am possesed!), in a role of paper,...i will have a list that will pass london,.. and surround, cover tha whole globe sooooo fullll of crap----

portugal, it`s a country of "gypsis" (no intentions to offend this culture! ok!) you do what fuck you want...
...not everyone,.. only the ones following the rules, and the ones with tha power (the guys that make this rules!)

one of my favourite rules, it`s tha bomb rule!!
i like too tha work exploration managed rule in this world!!
..don`t forget, the big bosses are not alone, and we don`t live isolated from tha world!!

..we are perpetual stick in shit, not flying with gods!

why all the big portuguese names, have to go outside this country to be recognize!????

---just to finnish,.. there a are a lot of people unhappy with this reality, included in the trance scene! it`not necessary to put them all in the same package,.. it is better to find good strategies, to discuss about it, try to do something with this things we don`t agree,... just fight for a better world, again and again,.. all together in this "cycle"

*isn`t this conversation so familiar, probably, your conversation sound the same,.. soo let`s going to do something about it

...SHAMEEE ONNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!

dark of, oohhh shitttt....

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ah pois eh!
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :  47
Posts :  314
Posted : Dec 18, 2006 21:40
i only say, for a party u need to have a propose to do it... i think not only becuse is friday or saturday or holyday it´s a excuse to make a party ... so partys with the real mean´ing of party in portugal are in a small the number in my view all the rest is just people making money another ones taking drugs and when it ends they just want to know where is next ! so is like viciuos cicle ... for me psytrance or psytrance family is dead before it was one family and now u have dark fans that ´´hate´´ chezzy full_on(im one of thouse eheheh) u have full_on fans u have progressive fans u have suomi sounds fans ,drugs fans , money fans so where are the psytrance lovers or where is the psytrance culture now

maybe some still alive but not 4 long i think
thanks to dark or night time alien psy musik the moviment return to underground again so lets see how long this era is going to live....
ah pois eh!
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :  47
Posts :  314
Posted : Dec 18, 2006 21:47
[quote]
On 2006-06-01 03:27, marSpider wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-01-18 13:58, Spasm wrote:
I think we shoud do a school of trance, so that people would behave in a party, once and for all.

The classes would be:

. learn how to dance, (some people really need a help).

. Rolling a fat one (indoors and outdoors).

. Learn how to dress properly to a trance event.

. A guide on how to go through 1.000 people with 3 beers in the hands.

. Learn how to properly ask the DJ to play "the one with the guitars!!!".

. Orientation technics (good for arriving at the party).

its not enough i know, but it could be developed.



i would say learn to respect others !!!
psy party always was a place where u act dress danc3 like no buddy is watching as long u respect the nature of the place and all the ppl around u are free to dance like u feel or to dress what u like or what ever ...
delusional
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  21
Posted : Dec 18, 2006 21:50
Quote:

On 2006-12-12 06:09, sy000321 wrote:
if your friends are saying that stuff is VERY GOOD, they're lying.


Isn't that quite a subjective concept? There is no universal rule to good taste, I believe. One can see real beauty in music you find pretty average.           Ed (Delusional)
www.psylosophy.com
etnarama
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  96
Posts :  510
Posted : Dec 19, 2006 17:21
nannae .....
Are you on drugs?
I really didn't get you.....

The points are explained earlier in the topic...

Take a deep breath and read it slowly, and if you want you can pm me in Portuguese.... I don't mind...




Peace man, do what makes you happy....           Visit me
http://www.myspace.com/etnarama
http://www.myspace.com/luxbuna
http://www.myspace.com/outerspacecreations
http://www.visionrecords.co.uk/
nannae


Started Topics :  2
Posts :  9
Posted : Dec 19, 2006 17:49
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i am sorry paulo!

it`s nothing personal,.. i just wanted to shown my point of view by PROJECTING it in your situation!! and if i am wrong or made it by a wrong way... soo this words made it more clear!!

.it is an incorrect interpretation, sorry about if i was not clear, ok

.go in peace and treat well
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